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Subject: Will HPC ever have full Xbox 360 Controller Support?
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I've just been wondering. Will it ever have true Xbox 360 controller support? Because I noticed that games that were not specifically made for the 360 controller, act a little weird.

All 360 controllers have a bit of a thumb-stick calibration issue. Like, when you move the left thumbstick to the right, you go right (as it should be), and when you release it, you stop. But when you move to the left, and then let go. You keep on moving to the left. That's because when you do that, it's not exactly off-set to the middle. Just slightly to the left.

Many games that have full 360 controller support by-pass this problem and allow you to play like normal.

So the question is: Do you ever think it'd be possible, perhaps via a patch, to give HPC full 360 controller support? Because moving to the left when you're not doing anything is not fun >:[

And no, I said full 360 controller support. HPC can detect the 360 controller, but it's just detected as another Gaming Controller :\

Blah.

  • 02.10.2007 1:57 AM PDT
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No, HPC will never have Xbox 360 controller support because 1) HPC is no longer updated because Bungie and Gearbox care less about their consumers than a crack addict cares about her children and 2) It's pointless to play HPC with a controller, because you'll be hindered by it and will never have the quick movement control that a keyboard and mouse will give you.

  • 02.10.2007 2:03 AM PDT
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Posted by: Oni Ryu
No, HPC will never have Xbox 360 controller support because 1) HPC is no longer updated because Bungie and Gearbox care less about their consumers than a crack addict cares about her children and 2) It's pointless to play HPC with a controller, because you'll be hindered by it and will never have the quick movement control that a keyboard and mouse will give you.


And besides. Bungie Studios is full of 40 year old virgins who don't know the true meaning of PC gaming, so they resort to what every ignorant 6 year old would think: that consoles are the elite gaming platforms. Gosh...

  • 02.10.2007 4:44 AM PDT
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Posted by: Oni Ryu
No, HPC will never have Xbox 360 controller support because 1) HPC is no longer updated because Bungie and Gearbox care less about their consumers than a crack addict cares about her children and 2) It's pointless to play HPC with a controller, because you'll be hindered by it and will never have the quick movement control that a keyboard and mouse will give you.

  • 02.10.2007 6:02 AM PDT
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Heyyo,

Posted by: Mr Faucy Paunts
I've just been wondering. Will it ever have true Xbox 360 controller support? Because I noticed that games that were not specifically made for the 360 controller, act a little weird.

All 360 controllers have a bit of a thumb-stick calibration issue. Like, when you move the left thumbstick to the right, you go right (as it should be), and when you release it, you stop. But when you move to the left, and then let go. You keep on moving to the left. That's because when you do that, it's not exactly off-set to the middle. Just slightly to the left.

Many games that have full 360 controller support by-pass this problem and allow you to play like normal.

So the question is: Do you ever think it'd be possible, perhaps via a patch, to give HPC full 360 controller support? Because moving to the left when you're not doing anything is not fun >:[

And no, I said full 360 controller support. HPC can detect the 360 controller, but it's just detected as another Gaming Controller :\

Blah.

Nope, there probably won't be unless Microsoft says "hey, update HPC to support force feedback" which's highly unlikely. Anywho, for the calibration probs you need xbox custom drivers for the 360 controller. ;)

Here's how to do it...

get this first installer... and run it...
http://redcl0ud.com/files/XBCDv107.exe

then go to this thread and download and run the drivers corresponding to your version of windows:
http://redcl0ud.1.forumer.com/index.php?showtopic=1511

then go to this site and get "2.Default Xbox 360 Config File with L and R triggers on seperate axises"... (do NOT use their installer for the xbcd360, those drivers are out of date and bugged)
http://xbcd360guide.50webs.com/download.html

then plug in the controller... you may need to disable driver signature (since they ain't official drivers), or manually install them from the list..

then run the xbcd program that lets you setup the gamepad and load in the "xboxtriggersseperate.xgi" file I got you to get on that last site, and apply, and close. Then go into Control Pannel > Gamepads > *select xbox360 gamepad* > properties > Calibrate... and then well, calibrate it. =D

if the gamepad sitll doesn't give you full range on diagonals you may need to go back into that xbcd setup program and hit the checkmarks for "full range"

Then give it a shot in a game! Simple right? :)

Using these drivers will let you setup your triggers as separate axis (which I highly reccomend) or buttons for games that don't support axis. This also gives you force feedback! w00t! so now for games that have force feedback in them, it'll work... no more shaking your hands to emulate the effects. =P

Also, the full range thing is highly reccomended too, since that will give you 100% axis movement on your diagonals, cause if you check the norm style, the axis at diagonals do maybe 80% range.

[Edited on 2/10/2007]

  • 02.10.2007 11:32 AM PDT
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Posted by: Master Kim
Posted by: Oni Ryu
No, HPC will never have Xbox 360 controller support because 1) HPC is no longer updated because Bungie and Gearbox care less about their consumers than a crack addict cares about her children and 2) It's pointless to play HPC with a controller, because you'll be hindered by it and will never have the quick movement control that a keyboard and mouse will give you.
Was it really that necessary to quote and repost something?

Anyway, I'd use the 360 controller with hpc more if it had better support.

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Posted by: Master Kim
Posted by: Oni Ryu
No, HPC will never have Xbox 360 controller support because 1) HPC is no longer updated because Bungie and Gearbox care less about their consumers than a crack addict cares about her children and 2) It's pointless to play HPC with a controller, because you'll be hindered by it and will never have the quick movement control that a keyboard and mouse will give you.


MK, why do you keep doing that?

  • 02.10.2007 12:39 PM PDT
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Posted by: brianv
Posted by: Master Kim
Posted by: Oni Ryu
No, HPC will never have Xbox 360 controller support because 1) HPC is no longer updated because Bungie and Gearbox care less about their consumers than a crack addict cares about her children and 2) It's pointless to play HPC with a controller, because you'll be hindered by it and will never have the quick movement control that a keyboard and mouse will give you.
Was it really that necessary to quote and repost something?
What else could it mean besides that I agree with him?

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Posted by: Master Kim
Posted by: brianv
Posted by: Master Kim
Posted by: Oni Ryu
No, HPC will never have Xbox 360 controller support because 1) HPC is no longer updated because Bungie and Gearbox care less about their consumers than a crack addict cares about her children and 2) It's pointless to play HPC with a controller, because you'll be hindered by it and will never have the quick movement control that a keyboard and mouse will give you.
Was it really that necessary to quote and repost something?
What else could it mean besides that I agree with him?


Then say something like "i second that" or "i agree", just quoting it without a responce (or a counter-responce) is pointless. That's like giving some random kid 3 cookies, and another random kid comes out of nowewhere and gives the same kid one mroe chocolate chip.

To put it simply, it's been already posted, if he wanted a quote, that guy who posted could've easily double posted or triple posted.

  • 02.10.2007 12:52 PM PDT
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no
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Uhh, I already have X360 controller drivers installed. In fact, there's even an item in my Start Bar for it.

EDIT: Oh, custom drivers xD. I'll give it a try :P. And I suppose I could always use the D-pad because it's truly digital. All it knows is 'on' and 'off' xD

And yeah, when I was in bed, I remembered that HPC used digital controls. Like, when you move left or right with the keyboard, there's no sensitivity control xD. So yeah, nuff' said about that.

EDIT: Thanks a lot :D The new driver works perfectly. The only problem is that HPC reads digital input, and even the slightest movement on the left thumbstick will make you move. But that's the way the game was designed, not the driver. :D (Maybe there are some other XBDC profiles that'll fix them problem?)
:P

[Edited on 2/10/2007]

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Posted by: Mr Faucy Paunts
Uhh, I already have X360 controller drivers installed. In fact, there's even an item in my Start Bar for it.

EDIT: Oh, custom drivers xD. I'll give it a try :P. And I suppose I could always use the D-pad because it's truly digital. All it knows is 'on' and 'off' xD

And yeah, when I was in bed, I remembered that HPC used digital controls. Like, when you move left or right with the keyboard, there's no sensitivity control xD. So yeah, nuff' said about that.

EDIT: Thanks a lot :D The new driver works perfectly. The only problem is that HPC reads digital input, and even the slightest movement on the left thumbstick will make you move. But that's the way the game was designed, not the driver. :D (Maybe there are some other XBDC profiles that'll fix them problem?)
:P

Heyyo,

Np, glad to help. But HPC does read analog for the aim and movement, but for movement it's setup that less than 50% is walk, and more is run.. there isn't any kindof actual pacing in between.. I just double checked right now with my pad and that's what happened for me.

  • 02.10.2007 7:26 PM PDT

Full support would include adding force feedback/rumble support as well as the slight aim assist that the Xbox version of Halo has. Considering how old HPC is now and the complexity of such an update, it seems highly unlikely that any such patch would be released.

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Yep, that's what I thought.

It's just too bad HPC didn't have X360 support right outta the box, considering that X360 was released a few years after :P

But still, full support would be nice. Because even the custom drivers can't do anything to compensate for the left stick's ultra-sensitivity. Like, even if you move it a teensy-tiny bit, you still move to the left.

And yah, the right-stick (or mouse, albeit) is analog controlled in HPC, but I didn't think I'd need to mention that :\

  • 02.11.2007 12:36 AM PDT
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Posted by: lpjuunin
Then say something like "i second that" or "i agree", just quoting it without a responce (or a counter-responce) is pointless.
One might say the same thing for typing you agree when you could just quote them and leave it as it is.

Lots of people do it. There's nothing wrong with it. Until they make giant quote pyramids which slow down my computer when I load the page.

  • 02.11.2007 4:53 AM PDT
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Yeah, what Kim said. Quote pyramids are ok for a while. But for the love of gawd quote the original poster and not everyone who quoted the guy before him. I hate having to scroll down a giant post of "Posted by: Whatever" 's before I can read what the hell they all quoted.

  • 02.11.2007 4:59 AM PDT

Ahh

I got as far as this page

http://xbcd360guide.50webs.com/download.html

and then I don't know what to do from there.

help

  • 02.11.2007 5:08 PM PDT