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My point was that the Halo Xbox dissappeared from the bottom games bar first, before Halo PC. I'm not talking about that page, but the tool bar at the bottom.

And I think you won't be able to BXR in H2V. The reason BXR is still in the Xbox version is because it's not your average bug or glitch. It's in the game codes, so Bungie would have to rewrite the whole codes and -blam!-, or something like that. Basically it would take ages and Bungie couldn't really be bothered to do it I guess.
BXR is just about skipping animations of the weapons to shoot and melee faster and kill in like 1 second (litterally, if you've mastered it enough). In H2V Bungie probably won't make the same mistake and allow animation skipping in the codeing, so I think you lot are safe.
The thing you should really be insecure about it seeing the comeback of the aimbot in H2V.

  • 02.20.2007 3:11 PM PDT
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rant.

Point out Halo PC here:

http://www.bungie.net/Games/


http://www.bungie.net/Games/Halopc/

thats the link to the still existing page. i doubt you'll find a link to it from anyway else on the bungie.net

it wasnt that difficult to find, i just modeled the url after halo, halo2, halo3, and halo 2 vista's urls. extremely difficult.


You must be a regular Einstein. Ever go to school any?

  • 02.20.2007 3:32 PM PDT
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o.o... its been this way for a long time lol

  • 02.20.2007 4:16 PM PDT
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Funny too, since Halo PC is the best game Bungie has produced.


You're absolutely right. But in Bungie and 7 year old MLG fanboys' points of view, Halo2, and Halo3 is the best game they have produced. But I just have one thing to say:

Halo2 is teh suck, and it phails miserably.


Wrong, nearly all MLG players prefer Halo 1. [Maybe not the 7 year olds though].

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That's for sure. It was MLG that got Bungie to do BR starts.

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Already posted by: Agamemnon582bc
Even better, look at the pot call the kettle black.
Oh, and wow, a typo;


lawl

Just another thing I found funny about you.

The entire basis of your argument is that I misspelled my name...?

And yet you haven't actually made any sort of an attempt to talk about what I actually said? Ouch.

[Edited on 2/20/2007]

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Posted by: Synthmilk
Now I had the opprotunity to play Halo 2 on my cousin-in-law's XBox 360, and you know what I found?

As a PC gamer, it sucks, obviously. But I could see how awsome it will be once it is on the PC. I didn't play multiplayer as I am not a complete idiot, but I don't think Bungie is quite stupid enough to impliment the Matchmaking system on a PC game.

Halo 2 Vista will rule, my only complaint is that Parties are a paid feature.

And I don't care about my spelling mistakes because I'm too lazy to open Word and fix them right now.
Holy crap, even I don't open up Word to do that. Don't worry, we really don't care about minor errors. if u tipe liek dis den we hav a problem k???

Anyways, I'm looking forward to play it on PC. Mainly for the chance to frag all of you who don't want to buy a console.

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Funny too, since Halo PC is the best game Bungie has produced.

In your opinion.
Yes, I was going to say that.

People, let's face it. Halo PC was a bad port. Okay, we can forever go on and on about Halo PC and the merit it may or may not deserve, but I think we can agree that it could have been better than it should have gone. Outdated graphics, higher system requirements than what should be needed, missing visuals and features from the Xbox version? A mediocre game lobby interface without a friends list or some place to locate your favorite server? The netcode?

Yeah, yeah, we can get all these problems fixed or addressed with user-created content, but it's a fact that the game itself, out of the box, wasn't as good as it should have been.

  • 02.20.2007 8:42 PM PDT
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Posted by: Coup De Ta
Already posted by: Agamemnon582bc
Even better, look at the pot call the kettle black.
Oh, and wow, a typo;


lawl

Just another thing I found funny about you.

The entire basis of your argument is that I misspelled my name...?

And yet you haven't actually made any sort of an attempt to talk about what I actually said? Ouch.

Here, I'll try to make it simple for you, seeing as you still haven't got it.

What makes me laugh the most about this argument.... Bungie owes no one anything... and yet here 90% of the forums are cursing Bungie for not supporting their "Best Game". Hah. You make-a me laugh.
Why exactly does it make you laugh, Watto? After all, something has to seem funny to laugh, such as your poor attempt to spell the sounding of coup d'état for your user name.
Now let's put our thinking caps on here. Now what could I have possibly meant by this? Come on! Gears turning yet? Maybe you need pictographs next?

You came out of the blue and said, "omg dis iz funny." How the hell is that an argument and how does that even make sense? I've seen many people just come out of the blue and say, "Wow, that's funny." Why is it funny? Because you have nothing else to say? And also when they're caught with their hand in the idiot jar they get flustered and respond not so kindly, as you did.

How does your argument, in any way, actually argue a point, other than offer some horribly pitiful excuse for logic?
Here's where you decided to lose, see? You thought I presenting an argument against you, even though I was asking a question.

So congrats; you've just proved to this forum how much of an ass you are who can't read worth a damn. You even did it better when you said, again, "lawl you make me laugh too." Get your own damn opinion and say it instead of falling in with the rest of the crowd with, "LAWL U FUNNY I LAFF END I WIN."

  • 02.21.2007 2:35 AM PDT

Posted by: Himura_Kenshin
Funny too, since Halo PC is the best game Bungie has produced.

Ahahahahaha
Ahahahaha
Ahaha
Hahah

No.

  • 02.21.2007 4:27 AM PDT
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Posted by: Himura_Kenshin
Funny too, since Halo PC is the best game Bungie has produced.

Ahahahahaha
Ahahahaha
Ahaha
Hahah

No.
Yeah. It was Marathon, duh.

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*sigh*. The argument you presented was that what I said wasn't funny. That had almost nothing to do with what the entire post was about. The fact that you can't move past THAT minuscule point and actually focus on what I was trying to say means one of two things:
1. You don't actually have a point, but are offended at some guy who disagreed with you online OR
2. You don't have any justification for your actions and so you have to focus on one part of my argument.

Make your choice. You alone proved to me (once again) why this community is so unbelievably difficult to handle.

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Posted by: Coup De Ta
What makes me laugh the most about this argument.... Bungie owes no one anything... and yet here 90% of the forums are cursing Bungie for not supporting their "Best Game". Hah. You make-a me laugh.
I still think we're not getting our dues.

For the record... I never said that Halo PC was their "best game", so I'm that 10%.

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They should've at LEAST updated the horrifying net lag. I mean its so bad that the lag freezes me on the spot and the I end up teleporting everywhere then I get booted because they think I'm hacking.

  • 02.21.2007 5:27 AM PDT

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Posted by: Agamemnon582bc
No, what you're arguing is that you think Bungie took it off the page because you think they thought it was a crappy port. If it was by their standards then the only way they can point their fingers to are to themselves.

[random rant based on an assumption]


It was crappy port because there are obvious graphical items in the XBox version that are not in the PC version, compatability issues were rampant out of the box, and there are quite a few AI related problems, such as inconsistant triggers (in that sometimes they work, sometimes they don't, and sometimes they trigger, but what happens isn't exactly how it was supposed to happen, such as in some cutscenes).

Such things should have been fixed pre-launch, and at least compatability issues were fixed with patches.

As a game, it rocked, sure it had some glitches, but it was more than fun anyway, but hardly a shining example of a Bungie product.

And I have no issues selecting low-ping servers, just so you know.

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Posted by: Synthmilk
It was crappy port because there are obvious graphical items in the XBox version that are not in the PC version, compatability issues were rampant out of the box, and there are quite a few AI related problems, such as inconsistant triggers (in that sometimes they work, sometimes they don't, and sometimes they trigger, but what happens isn't exactly how it was supposed to happen, such as in some cutscenes).

Such things should have been fixed pre-launch, and at least compatability issues were fixed with patches.

As a game, it rocked, sure it had some glitches, but it was more than fun anyway, but hardly a shining example of a Bungie product.
Thank you.

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Posted by: Coup De Ta
*sigh*. The argument you presented was that what I said wasn't funny. That had almost nothing to do with what the entire post was about. The fact that you can't move past THAT minuscule point and actually focus on what I was trying to say means one of two things:
1. You don't actually have a point, but are offended at some guy who disagreed with you online OR
2. You don't have any justification for your actions and so you have to focus on one part of my argument.

Make your choice. You alone proved to me (once again) why this community is so unbelievably difficult to handle.

Jesus Christ, do you need me to hold your hand now? YOU. PRESENTED. NO. ARGUEMENT. You ****ing said, "LAWL" and that was it. Why you've drawn this bull**** out so long is unknown to me, but it seems nothing like someone who's got ants in their pants because someone pointed out how just coming into the thick of things and just saying "LAWL" was idiotic.

It was crappy port because there are obvious graphical items in the XBox version that are not in the PC version,
Oooh, like what? The AR skin doesn't have that beaten-up texture as the Xbox AR has? Jackal shields don't look plastic any more? Yeah, these small details brought down the game immensly.

ompatability issues were rampant out of the box,
Like? Go ahead, list them. What, issues with GeForce graphics cards not showing the camo correctly? Boo hoo. So the game decided to favor ATI graphic cards. Hey! Guess what! Every game ends up doing something the same along the lines!

and there are quite a few AI related problems, such as inconsistant triggers (in that sometimes they work, sometimes they don't, and sometimes they trigger, but what happens isn't exactly how it was supposed to happen, such as in some cutscenes).
Now you're just making **** up. I've NEVER had a trigger fail on me. EVER. Oh, and what other AI related problems might persist on the PC port, hmm?

As a game, it rocked, sure it had some glitches, but it was more than fun anyway, but hardly a shining example of a Bungie product.
Oh, then please, enlighten us what is a "shining example of a Bungie product." Considering the PC port was the same to the Xbox version, except with plus benifits, plus, maps, plus weapons, plus vehicles, and the capability of going online to fight (oh, and least I forget, HCE), I'd like to know how the port, which reduced hit boxes and got rid of auto aim from the Xbox version, isn't better than the Xbox version.

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That was amazing. One of the most bitter, angry arguments I've ever heard.

My argument was this:
Bungie does not owe this community (or anyone in the world, for that mater) anything. And yet here a large number of people are, flaming Bungie for not giving them what they want. I was arguing what your justification for doing such was.

But what shocks me is that you became so offended by... My "spelling" error, I suppose. If I had no real argument, I fail to see what it was that offended you SO badly.

As a side note, no respectable person would actually say "lawl" in an argument/conversation/etc. unless it was parody. I'll leave it at that.

No disrespect was aimed at you until you became unnecessarily hostile towards me. If you REALLY want to, you can go ahead and "have the last words" so to speak. I have no interest in carrying out this conversation, and I'm sure you don't either.

As for Master Kim; I never said/meant anything against you, if that's what you were wondering.

  • 02.21.2007 1:25 PM PDT

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Posted by: Agamemnon582bc
Oooh, like what? The AR skin doesn't have that beaten-up texture as the Xbox AR has? Jackal shields don't look plastic any more? Yeah, these small details brought down the game immensly.


Did I say it brought down the game? No, I said that these things missing made it a crappy port. Missing or incomplete textures is hardly professional.


Like? Go ahead, list them. What, issues with GeForce graphics cards not showing the camo correctly? Boo hoo. So the game decided to favor ATI graphic cards. Hey! Guess what! Every game ends up doing something the same along the lines!

The game not working properly with certain graphics or sound drivers, the game not working with some sound cards, unexplained low FPS rates at random periods using certain settings, and the problems happened with both nVidia and ATI cards, ATI just had a few less problems.

Now you're just making **** up. I've NEVER had a trigger fail on me. EVER. Oh, and what other AI related problems might persist on the PC port, hmm?

Lucky you, because playing the game a few dozen times on various skill levels I found a number of consistant trigger glitches even with the latestpatch, though most that I saw with earlier patches are fixed. One example is the hunters not appearing after Capt. Keyes lifts off with the coveant dropship, the sounds play properly, but there are no fuel rod shots and when he rams them, they arn't there, but we hear them die. I call that a highly noticeable trigger error.

And other AI errors I count include some Flood Infection Forms never attacking me or even moving, and some Marines/Covenant running in random directions, though that glitch is rare.

Oh, then please, enlighten us what is a "shining example of a Bungie product."

Marathon, Marathon: Durandal, Marathon: Infinity, Myth, Myth Soulblighter, Myth The Fallen Lords, Oni, Pathways into Darkness.


Considering the PC port was the same to the Xbox version, except with plus benifits, plus, maps, plus weapons, plus vehicles, and the capability of going online to fight (oh, and least I forget, HCE), I'd like to know how the port, which reduced hit boxes and got rid of auto aim from the Xbox version, isn't better than the Xbox version.

I never said it was worse than the XBox version, I'm saying that a crappy job was done porting it, with obvious glaring problems that hardly are compensated for by the addition of a couple of new, multiplayer only weapons and a new Hog. The HEK is an awsome addition, but even it is hardly a shining example of a mod kit.


I love Halo, but it's hardly the best game in existance overall, and not something a professional game company would tote around when compared to their other games it's a bit lackluster. We are getting H2V, and it's being done properly from the looks of it, so why shouldn't it get first billing?

[Edited on 2/21/2007]

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Posted by: Coup De Ta:
My argument was this:
Bungie does not owe this community (or anyone in the world, for that mater) anything. And yet here a large number of people are, flaming Bungie for not giving them what they want. I was arguing what your justification for doing such was.

And what is my justification for why they did it? Hmm? Maybe you'd like to point out to where I said Bungie owed us something or that Halo is the best game ever?

But what shocks me is that you became so offended by... My "spelling" error, I suppose. If I had no real argument, I fail to see what it was that offended you SO badly.
It didn't shock me at all. I was pointing out to you how obliviously stupid your first "argument" was by mocking what you had done; pretty much nothing but nitpick at others. But you were right about one thing; you failed to see a lot of things. What offended me is how you blatantly jumped into the fire and said "lol" and that was it. "lol, you guys make me laugh." That's a half-assed insult without a bit of argument backing it up. See: taking the easy way out.

As a side note, no respectable person would actually say "lawl" in an argument/conversation/etc. unless it was parody. I'll leave it at that.
It was a parody; a direct parody of you because that's what you virtually said in your very first post.

No disrespect was aimed at you until you became unnecessarily hostile towards me. If you REALLY want to, you can go ahead and "have the last words" so to speak. I have no interest in carrying out this conversation, and I'm sure you don't either.
There was no hostility to begin with until you responded with insults. What, did you expect me to respond with milk and cookies? And it has taken nearly 50 posts later for you to finally realize what I was talking about. It wasn't hostility; it was pure frustration at how you couldn't even simply comprehend what I was saying after I had repeated it nearly three times.

Posted by: Synthmilk
Did I say it brought down the game? No, I said that these things missing made it a crappy port. Missing or incomplete textures is hardly professional.

So, wait, higher res textures, one replaced AR texture, and a replacement texture for Jackal shields made it crappy? Bravo. Quite the downfall of Halo PC. Yes, I agree with you. In my entire playing history of Halo PC, never have I found a "missing" texture, but now I can see why it completely sucks.

The game not working properly with certain graphics or sound drivers, the game not working with some sound cards, unexplained low FPS rates at random periods using certain settings, and the problems happened with both nVidia and ATI cards, ATI just had a few less problems.
Here, try this on for size. I first played Halo with a ATI Raedon 9200 PCI. Would you like to know how crappy that video card is? Beyond the pale crappy. Want to know how many issues I had with it and Halo? Zero. How many sound card issues? Zero. Did I have some fancy sound card? No. It was what ever came with a 1999 standard office-issue Compaq.

The so many complaints we receive on the Maw about "Halo not working omigosh!" is usually user-related, especially with kids thinking they can play a game with some serious out-dated technology. It's not Doom and it will not run with 32VRAM. So all of these "graphics" issues? Guess how many I had? Oh, come on, guess!

Lucky you, because playing the game a few dozen times on various skill levels I found a number of consistant trigger glitches even with the latestpatch, though most that I saw with earlier patches are fixed. One example is the hunters not appearing after Capt. Keyes lifts off with the coveant dropship, the sounds play properly, but there are no fuel rod shots and when he rams them, they arn't there, but we hear them die. I call that a highly noticeable trigger error.
I call that a one in a million fluke. Never had that happen to me as well.

And other AI errors I count include some Flood Infection Forms never attacking me or even moving, and some Marines/Covenant running in random directions, though that glitch is rare.
It's also unheard of to me, even from the random complaints on this board, at Gearbox, and at Gamefaqs.

Marathon, Marathon: Durandal, Marathon: Infinity, Myth, Myth Soulblighter, Myth The Fallen Lords, Oni, Pathways into Darkness.
Oh, yes; the good ol' days. Classics always seem to surpass even the greatest games of today. Why, it's common for gaming mags to list Pong or Tetris as the number one games mostly because it's a fad. Yes, wow, they were forerunners and did their purpose, but they're not Jesus.

never said it was worse than the XBox version, I'm saying that a crappy job was done porting it, with obvious glaring problems that hardly are compensated for by the addition of a couple of new, multiplayer only weapons and a new Hog. The HEK is an awsome addition, but even it is hardly a shining example of a mod kit.
Once again, this over-exaggeration of this "failed" PC port, though I will agree with you on HEK. The tools included are buggy as hell, but given that they were made on such short notice I'm not surprised, especially when the creators aren't even allowed to support them any more.

I love Halo, but it's hardly the best game in existance overall, and not something a professional game company would tote around when compared to their other games it's a bit lackluster. We are getting H2V, and it's being done properly from the looks of it, so why shouldn't it get first billing?
I didn't say it was the best game either. As a matter of fact, I can name numerous games that are much better than Halo, but I'm not sure what this has to do with the arguing of the PC port.

  • 02.21.2007 5:28 PM PDT

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im afraid im gonna have to confiscate your testicles.

What are you, the Cyber police? lol.

I didnt read alot because I didnt have time but, my question is, who really goes to the Halo PC Page anymore? To me there isnt much anything interesting there.

Plus, they added Halo 2 Vista to the gamelist, im going to say that the gamelist is for rather popular games, not that im saying Halo PC isnt popular but Halo 3, Halo 2, and Halo 2 Vista are being talked about ALOT, Bungie knows that when Halo 3 comes out and Halo 2 Vista, its going to be nothing but that most likely. Im not so sure about Halo 2, maybe because its the most things they have for it.

Its not like ive seen an update on the Halo PC page, unlike the Halo 2 for xbox one.

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Maybe it's just me, but has anyone else noticed that when there are lots of activity in the game, the sound effects seem to disappear. If you've ever fired the sniper rifle and didn't hear the report, or if you've held down the trigger of the warthog's gun without hearing anything, you'll know what I'm talking about. Maybe it's just because I've got a low-end PC.

Seriously though, Halo PC, as much as I love it, is a crappy port. If it wasn't, we'd have more people playing it.

By the way, Agamemnon made another spelling error. It's a sign of the apocalypse! Head for the hills, lock the doors, and hide the women and children.

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Posted by: Agamemnon582bc
Here, try this on for size. I first played Halo with a ATI Raedon 9200 PCI. Would you like to know how crappy that video card is? Beyond the pale crappy. Want to know how many issues I had with it and Halo? Zero. How many sound card issues? Zero. Did I have some fancy sound card? No. It was what ever came with a 1999 standard office-issue Compaq.

Arf, I see agamemnon is talking bobbins about PC components again.

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Posted by: Master Kim:
Seriously though, Halo PC, as much as I love it, is a crappy port. If it wasn't, we'd have more people playing it.

The problem isn't quality; it has to do deal with people not knowing how to host their own games and not knowing what to do with HCE. There are over 31,500 downloads for the map Coldsnap, yet there's only about 30 HCE players on at a given time; usually about 2,000 HPC players. There's obviously something wrong with these figures here, especially with nearly 112,000 downloads for HCE. If anything, the problem deals with the many who bought the game and didn't understand it because it wasn't as easy as one, two, three. That I will admit to.

By the way, Agamemnon made another spelling error. It's a sign of the apocalypse! Head for the hills, lock the doors, and hide the women and children.
Quite. I've come to eat them. Screw the kittens.

Posted by: Badjman:
Arf, I see agamemnon is talking bobbins about PC components again.

Arf yourself. Decided to have an epiphany and join up again? :P

[Edited on 2/22/2007]

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Posted by: Agamemnon582bc
Posted by: Master Kim:
Seriously though, Halo PC, as much as I love it, is a crappy port. If it wasn't, we'd have more people playing it.

The problem isn't quality; it has to do deal with people not knowing how to host their own games and not knowing what to do with HCE. There are over 31,500 downloads for the map Coldsnap, yet there's only about 30 HCE players on at a given time; usually about 2,000 HPC players. There's obviously something wrong with these figures here, especially with nearly 112,000 downloads for HCE. If anything, the problem deals with the many who bought the game and didn't understand it because it wasn't as easy as one, two, three. That I will admit to.
Yes. Ironically, Halo PC isn't as straight forward as most games can be.

Posted by: Agamemnon582bc
By the way, Agamemnon made another spelling error. It's a sign of the apocalypse! Head for the hills, lock the doors, and hide the women and children.
Quite. I've come to eat them. Screw the kittens.
That's why I always carry a bottle of Tobasco with me in case I meet them.

  • 02.22.2007 2:40 PM PDT