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Do you know what the leading cause to people using cheats like aimbots, infinite health, and other cheats? Its overpowered experts who like to grief players who aren't exactly up to skill everytime they kill them with -blam!- remarks like "n00b I pwned you" or "u sux go play somethin else".

So please, if you're a douche who likes to do this stuff, and you see that you're irritating someone with constant kills and taunts, stop being an ass and go after someone else, because pretty soon theres a chance that noob will find you again and PWN your sorry ass with an aimbot, rather than PWN your sorry ass by traditional means.





Meh, I just had to say that.

  • 02.21.2007 5:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: Guy4allconsoles
Like thats supposed to make it better.... *rolls eyes*


Meh, I just had to say that.

With only 11 days in Bungie forums under your belt you have in no way offered any sort of constructive criticism.

You are DEE DEE DEEEEE

And no, trash talkers are juvenile prepubescent morons who feel the need to make themselves feel superior by issuing garbage out their mouths. I can not think of any period ever in my time of gaming where someone who is actually good, trash talk. I have heard/seen many people with superbly fast connections trash talk because without their connections, they SUCK, and they are very aware of this. Which is why you will rarely see them leave the protection of their server, or home hosted custom game on live.

But my point is, people cheat because they suck, as Master Kim stated, not because of trash talk. Trash talk can be a fuel, certainly fuels me. I never trash talk, I see talking ingame as a nuisance. But in those rare occurances where someone actually gets a cool kill on me, and instead of just enjoying it, and typing a simple lol and/or ackknowledging my "Nice", they have to fill the screen with more garbage trash talk, which of course, I award them with bullets through the skull over and over and over. Of course, there are those players that are actually good at the game, but they have to let everrrryone know it. Freakin annoying. Sry, going off topic.

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  • 02.21.2007 6:34 PM PDT
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Posted by: Guy4allconsoles
Do you know what the leading cause to people using cheats like aimbots, infinite health, and other cheats? Its overpowered experts who like to grief players who aren't exactly up to skill everytime they kill them with -blam!- remarks like "n00b I pwned you" or "u sux go play somethin else".
Um, no. They do it, because of two reasons:

1. They suck balls at the game, so they want to cheat to win.

2. They're decent players who are just messing around with cheats and hacks.

It is not due to elitist pricks who kick their asses and trash talk them.

  • 02.21.2007 6:41 PM PDT
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His cause is justified... And yes, if everyone was able to treat others with a bit of respect and common decency than this "epidemic" would never have happened. Doubtless, of course, aimbots would be used. But would the problem be HALF of what it is? Not even...

  • 02.21.2007 6:44 PM PDT
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There may be a large number of players who are trash talk, insult, and grief the lower-skilled players to death, but I don't think that's why people cheat. People cheat because they want to win. They're not going to use aimbots because they're tired of their opponents trash talking them, they're going to use it because they suck.

  • 02.21.2007 6:50 PM PDT
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People value winning low when the rest of the community does as well. Ever played WoW as the Horde?

  • 02.21.2007 6:52 PM PDT
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Hey Master Kim, thought you might find this amusing, if you have not already seen it. I am not siding with Coup De Ta's side at all, just thought this vid was on topic.

Warning: This video contains strong language.

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  • 02.21.2007 6:59 PM PDT
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Posted by: Iron Curtain
Old.


Your point...
Still funny.

  • 02.21.2007 7:15 PM PDT
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Oh no, I am being ridiculed about my quality of playing. I will cheat because I can not handle the emotional stress of not being praised by people I do not no.

  • 02.21.2007 7:20 PM PDT
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If someone decides to trashtalk me ingame, I'll just return the favor. I guarantee that I can come up with a much better comeback than just about any of those "Trash talking elitist pricks."

Trash talk, while rather immature and distracting from the game experience, does not make people go download aimbots. It's because they suck that they go download aimbots.

If someone beats me in a game, I just try harder. I don't bother getting pissed off about it. It's a damn game. The same with forums, getting mad at someone on the internet is retarded.

  • 02.21.2007 7:36 PM PDT
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Posted by: Zeph
Oh no, I am being ridiculed about my quality of playing. I will cheat because I can not handle the emotional stress of not being praised by people I do not no.


Which is exactly the kind of behavior I'm describing...

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  • 02.21.2007 7:39 PM PDT
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Yeah, I was gunna say something, but I changed my mind.

So here's a random flame: You are all teh suxxorz! :P

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  • 02.21.2007 7:45 PM PDT
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Posted by: Coup De Ta
Posted by: Zeph
Oh no, I am being ridiculed about my quality of playing. I will cheat because I can not handle the emotional stress of not being praised by people I do not no.


Which is exactly the kind of behavior I'm describing...

While it would be nice if we all could get along, you know as well as I do that that isn't going to happen any time soon. Also, a bleak outlook if we all were "equal."

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  • 02.21.2007 7:56 PM PDT
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For anyone who has not read that story please do, I have to say if I could think like that for only one moment, I would express myself in a similar fashion.

Freedom, True Freedom...That is the Shining Sun of Life.

  • 02.21.2007 8:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: Demigod333
For anyone who has not read that story please do, I have to say if I could think like that for only one moment, I would express myself in a similar fashion.

Freedom, True Freedom...That is the Shining Sun of Life.

  • 02.21.2007 8:38 PM PDT

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Somebody needs a hug.

Perhaps I'm totally insensitive, but when people call me names, I like it. If they're bothering to waste keystrokes reacting to me, those are keystrokes that are not going into killing me and my team.

It's really funny in sniper no shields games when people accuse others of botting. Who needs a bot? It's no shields– head or toe, one shot kills. All you need to do is see your enemy and pull your trigger before him. Bots don't make you faster on the trigger.

  • 02.21.2007 11:14 PM PDT
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Posted by: Scopean_kill1
Hey Master Kim, thought you might find this amusing, if you have not already seen it. I am not siding with Coup De Ta's side at all, just thought this vid was on topic.

Warning: This video contains strong language.

Pwned
Dude, that is ancient.

Posted by: Agamemnon582bc
While it would be nice if we all could get along, you know as well as I do that that isn't going to happen any time soon. Also, a bleak outlook if we all were "equal."
Interesting, but equality is not what people are concerned with, it's fairness. Don't get them mixed up. They're similar, but different.

All people should have the same opportunities, the same privileges, the same chances, but unfortunately that is not so. There will always be a large gap between the rich and the poor in the world, and it will take a long time before that gap is shortened. People will always be different. Whether or not that is a good thing, I wonder, but I shudder at the thought of a society of extreme equals.

  • 02.22.2007 4:55 AM PDT

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After kim saying pc gamers are more mature:
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we r?

yet the only time I trash talk is when a good player trash talks to me when he gets a few headshots in a row, then I start owning him for the rest of the game.

I'm pretty sure some of the clans out there use bots too... but of course, never TUI, MAW, or HMC, san Johnny Orcface or Turbocircuits

  • 02.22.2007 7:50 AM PDT
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Posted by: fastmatt
yet the only time I trash talk is when a good player trash talks to me when he gets a few headshots in a row, then I start owning him for the rest of the game.

I'm pretty sure some of the clans out there use bots too... but of course, never TUI, MAW, or HMC, san Johnny Orcface or Turbocircuits
He doesn't count because he's not in your clan anymore.

  • 02.22.2007 7:55 AM PDT

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The problem, as always, is with jerks. Jerks who grief, jerks who trash-talk, jerks who cheat. Their motives are quite varied; attention-seeking, revenge, power fantasies, no motive save for poor impulse control, etc, etc... trying to narrow down a Single Cause For Jerkitude is futile.

It'd be nice if players dialled down the elitism a tad... it'd make for a more pleasant playing environment for everybody, if nothing else. However, eliminating this won't eliminate jerks from online games.

-- Steve'd love to have a magic cure for Jerkitude, but has yet to see anything remotely close.

  • 02.22.2007 8:09 AM PDT
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Posted by: Anton P Nym
-- Steve'd love to have a magic cure for Jerkitude, but has yet to see anything remotely close.
Steve would get freaking rich and famous after he creates a device that allows him to stab people in the face over the internet.

  • 02.22.2007 8:44 AM PDT
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Posted by: Master Kim
Posted by: Anton P Nym
-- Steve'd love to have a magic cure for Jerkitude, but has yet to see anything remotely close.
Steve would get freaking rich and famous after he creates a device that allows him to stab people in the face over the internet.


Kill the botters! Kill the botters! Kill the botters!!!

  • 02.22.2007 8:46 AM PDT
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Posted by: Master Kim
Posted by: Anton P Nym
-- Steve'd love to have a magic cure for Jerkitude, but has yet to see anything remotely close.
Steve would get freaking rich and famous after he creates a device that allows him to stab people in the face over the internet.


I'd buy it.

  • 02.22.2007 9:59 AM PDT

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What's the difference between a botter and a really good player who gets 3SKs and sniper headshots most of the time, from the perspective of the person getting killed? Not much, except the botter probably lack other skills that the really good player has. So I'd rather play against the botter.

I think it's funny that we play a game where we kill each other and then get upset that our opponent wasn't nice. Must be all the Politically Correct crap they brainwash you in school with these days.

  • 02.22.2007 12:22 PM PDT

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