- last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT
Posted by: SweetTRIX
Posted by: COS Maverick
Posted by: SweetTRIX
in my opinion,
Fact > Opinion. Just saying.
Posted by: SweetTRIX
halo 2 is in no way a better game than halo. there is really only one reason i would think to call it harder, and that's halo 2's legndary level. every other level of the game felt like a cake walk, the weapon combos, the lack of situations that left you feeling overwhelmed. it was such a watered down experience for me compared to the first game, and don't even get me started on the halo 2 multiplayer.
I have to agree. But I do like Halo 2's campaign. Not as much as Halo 1's, but it's cool. Having said that, I'd like to get you started on Halo 2's multiplayer...was it, "too noob friendly"? "Too easy"? What bothered you about it?
where to begin, halo 2 multiplayer was victim of a few things. first of all they needed to make it so that people who couldn't grasp halo's gameplay mechanic could get halo 2. considering that they were going to be catering to a much larger market this time around (xbl enabled, multi-national fan-base) they had to make it "easier" for everyone. does this mean that anyone can beat anyone? of course not, there are still the good, the normal and the bad, as in any game. the difference is if i was better than you at halo, your would have to get to be a better shot, or a better driver or, a better tactitian or whatever. if i'm better than you in halo 2, all you need is the PP/BR combo (which i do not use, hence the example). it doesn't matter if i can hit you dead in the face with a BR or beat you to death without you even getting off a melee, if you've got that combo and line of sight i'm dead.
the point is that by making it "easier" they have severely stunted the learning curve. not to mention the massive amount of auto-aim and the re-tooling of certain weapons for the game. i understand changes needed to be made to accomodate xbl, however it should not have been so drastic to the point that people that sucked eggs at halo could pick up halo 2 and become great at it. i use that example because i know people personally that have done that, and ran in to people online that claim they were that way as well.
no one can blame bungie for lag/latency issues and the extreme host advantage, that is out of their realm of control. but there are things that need to be changed, the afformentioned combo, button mashing combos (this is not freakin tekken) super bouncing (still heavilly abused, and yes is cheating) thins of that nature. i am not a bad player by any means, when i play consistently i am actually pretty damn good, but it isn' fun for me like halo was cause no matter how good you get, there is some little bastard out there that's gonna kill you with one little pp/br attack, or turn around and stab you with the sword after you hit them in the back twice and shot them with the shotty. to me, that just kills the fun.
in halo, it was so much more team oriented, and people actually used to like playing objective games. CTF rocked the freakin lan parties all the time, now even the people i used to lan with, and new people i lan with for halo 2 only ever want to play slayer. why? cause it's easy as hell to do. what is simpler than killing someone in a game that makes it easy to kill someone? in halo, you needed to be accurate, none of this rediculous auto-aim, if you didn't pull the shot off you missed, if you were running and shooting, you were less accurate, if your opponent was running laterally to you, you needed to lead him. it took more skill/practice to get it done. if you sucked, you had to learn. and believe me everyone got owned their first time playing a veteran, but you learn, you get as good, or you get better.
i realize much of this is based on personaly preference and it is not meant to offend anyone, but to me halo 2 was a strong marketing step for bungie and MS, not an awesome sequel to one of the greatest console games ever released. to close out, i bought an xbox and halo 2 days after playing it on a friends xbox, i would not have done the same for halo 2.
I see where you're coming from. I do enjoy Halo 2's multiplayer more, though. And I agree about the PP/BR combo. I prefer not to use it unless I'm in a real fix. No one cares if you can point a plasma pistol, let the trigger go, and then shoot a guy once in the face. I understand that they reduced the PP's tracking strength for H3, and I certailny hope so. I also think that if the tracking is more like H1's (which required skill), they should make it actually hurt you, like it did in H1. I mean, come on, it's a massive blob of superheated death! I'd bleed if it hit me. But if you can't dodge it, they need to leave that feature out.