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I just noticed that I have DirectX 10 on my PC. What is the difference between it and previous DX versions?

  • 03.09.2007 5:28 AM PDT

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Short answer: DX9 is like the Model T, DX10 is like the De Lorian from Back to the Future, after the hover conversion.

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You dont actually have DX10. You have DX10 running the DX9.L codepath.

  • 03.09.2007 9:59 AM PDT

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Which means he has DX10...

But out of curiosity, how do you know she is running the DX9.L codepath?

And I just noticed this, but YOU HAVE ALIENS VS PREDATOR 2!

What must I do to convince you to give it to me?

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  • 03.09.2007 11:45 AM PDT
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Posted by: Synthmilk
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Which means he has DX10...

But out of curiosity, how do you know she is running the DX9.L codepath?
Probably because the DirectX 10 drivers haven't been released? Don't eat me, I don't know what I'm talking about.

  • 03.09.2007 11:48 AM PDT

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Posted by: Synthmilk
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Which means he has DX10...

But out of curiosity, how do you know she is running the DX9.L codepath?
Probably because the DirectX 10 drivers haven't been released? Don't eat me, I don't know what I'm talking about.
No no, you may be right. Im not very sure my self...

Off topic: I want your computer someone. lol

  • 03.09.2007 12:01 PM PDT
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Posted by: Master Kim
Probably because the DirectX 10 drivers haven't been released? Don't eat me, I don't know what I'm talking about.

As you can see from his processor name, there is no way he has a DX 10 videocard inside his PC, so there must be a DX 9 or 8.1 videocard inside thus will DX 10 run in DX 9Ex mode.

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I doubt it, the processor is kinda old, he hasn't got a lot of memory and he hasn't got a DX 10 videocard. But he can run Vista, so he can also run H2Vista.

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  • 03.09.2007 12:25 PM PDT
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I looked around the internet and found that Vista ships with DirectX 10. It could really be DX10, because on my XP Halo looked like -blam!- on highest and after I got DX10 it looked awesome. BTW to anyone who wants my computer, you can't have it.

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Heyyo,

Yeah, you see folks.. Once upon a time, on other releases of DirectX, it WOULD install the latest directx, but hardware-wise on cards if they only supported the previous directx version it would only run the games supported in that hardware directx version that the vidcard supports. Thus, a computer can have DX9 installed, but games will run in DX8.. for games that are only set for DX9, the cpu would emulate a lot of effects (usually insept Shader Model stuff like HDR and softshadows.. usually those won't be done via cpu or gpu that doesn't support them.. otherwise the preformance hit would be massive).

Microsoft realized after a lot of angry customers, that dropping support for DX9 on Vista would be a very... VERY bad idea, so they created that DX9 layer on DX10 for Vista, thus games will still run onnit. BUT.. I guess most people didn't notice/realize Microsoft is still getting away with killing off the Hardware Abstraction Layer (HAL) for DirectAudio... thus any game that uses directaudio for 3D surround sound or EAX in games that don't do OpenAL would be totally screwed for hardware accelerated audio. I for one, lost 10F/S or so cause of it on the FEAR benchmark.. Creative is capsizing on this issue by releasing aLchemy.. which converts all DirectAudio calls from games into OpenAL hardware-accelerated codes (which... "conveniently" only the Sound Blaster X-Fi series does..) thus hardware-accelerated 3D surround sound audio and EAX could be achieved again.. anywho, I digress... but I do cause I'm pissed off.. cause how many people will be screwed outta current gaming audio glory unless a better solution is achieved.

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Posted by: Synthmilk
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Which means he has DX10...

But out of curiosity, how do you know she is running the DX9.L codepath?

And I just noticed this, but YOU HAVE ALIENS VS PREDATOR 2!

What must I do to convince you to give it to me?


No, he does not have DX10. Even assuming he stuck an 8800 into his low end machine, he still wouldn't have DX10, because DX10 HASN'T BEEN RELEASED YET...

clarification edit: Allright, technically it has since Vista has the API, but no retail GPUs are using it yet.

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You probably didn't even see my screen. Go look at my pic with tons of evidence that I do in fact have DX10. And where the -blam!- did you get 8800 from? You must be jealous. If my PC was low end, it would barely play FEAR. It plays FEAR very well, but then I got bored of it and uninstalled it which is why it isn't there. You are just some ass that can't handle the fact that a kid has a high end PC.

  • 03.09.2007 5:09 PM PDT

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  • 03.09.2007 5:12 PM PDT
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What?

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You probably didn't even see my screen. Go look at my pic with tons of evidence that I do in fact have DX10. And where the -blam!- did you get 8800 from? You must be jealous. If my PC was low end, it would barely play FEAR. It plays FEAR very well, but then I got bored of it and uninstalled it which is why it isn't there. You are just some ass that can't handle the fact that a kid has a high end PC.

8800 is the only hardware that supports DX10 at this point, and if you didn't know that then you obviously don't know that much about high end pc's, whichs tells the rest of us, that you had someone else build it for you, or its not really a high end box like you think it is.

running 700mb of ram on an AMD 2800, i would hardly call that a high end machine on any standards

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Posted by: Synthmilk
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Which means he has DX10...

But out of curiosity, how do you know she is running the DX9.L codepath?

And I just noticed this, but YOU HAVE ALIENS VS PREDATOR 2!

What must I do to convince you to give it to me?




No, he does not have DX10. Even assuming he stuck an 8800 into his low end machine, he still wouldn't have DX10, because DX10 HASN'T BEEN RELEASED YET...

clarification edit: Allright, technically it has since Vista has the API, but no retail GPUs are using it yet.


O rly?

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You probably didn't even see my screen. Go look at my pic with tons of evidence that I do in fact have DX10. And where the -blam!- did you get 8800 from? You must be jealous. If my PC was low end, it would barely play FEAR. It plays FEAR very well, but then I got bored of it and uninstalled it which is why it isn't there. You are just some ass that can't handle the fact that a kid has a high end PC.

8800 is the only hardware that supports DX10 at this point, and if you didn't know that then you obviously don't know that much about high end pc's, whichs tells the rest of us, that you had someone else build it for you, or its not really a high end box like you think it is.

running 700mb of ram on an AMD 2800, i would hardly call that a high end machine on any standards

That is just a processor you stupid ass. If everyone is going to flame me because one part out of everything else is old, they can go to hell.

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You probably didn't even see my screen. Go look at my pic with tons of evidence that I do in fact have DX10. And where the -blam!- did you get 8800 from? You must be jealous. If my PC was low end, it would barely play FEAR. It plays FEAR very well, but then I got bored of it and uninstalled it which is why it isn't there. You are just some ass that can't handle the fact that a kid has a high end PC.

8800 is the only hardware that supports DX10 at this point, and if you didn't know that then you obviously don't know that much about high end pc's, whichs tells the rest of us, that you had someone else build it for you, or its not really a high end box like you think it is.

running 700mb of ram on an AMD 2800, i would hardly call that a high end machine on any standards

That is just a processor you stupid ass. If everyone is going to flame me because one part out of everything else is old, they can go to hell.


Dude your processor doesn't even meet the minimum spec for the 8800GTX...

  • 03.09.2007 5:47 PM PDT
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You probably didn't even see my screen. Go look at my pic with tons of evidence that I do in fact have DX10. And where the -blam!- did you get 8800 from? You must be jealous. If my PC was low end, it would barely play FEAR. It plays FEAR very well, but then I got bored of it and uninstalled it which is why it isn't there. You are just some ass that can't handle the fact that a kid has a high end PC.


Oh yeah, I'm definately jealous with Vista's dxdiag reporting my X1400 integrated POS to be a DX10 card. And what you might consider well, I consider bad. I got 8800 as the most optimistic example of what you could have. It might play FEAR, but I bet you it's at either 800x600 or 1024x768 with most of everything on LOW with no SM3 utilization. Your Sempron rig is very similar to my 4 year old rig, even if it's new. If you have a high end PC, then my current notebook with a T7200 is a -blam!- quantum computer.

And Oimnos, that's beta. Beta for a good reason, might I add. It will also stay beta until there are 3rd party DX10 apps which can be used for out of house testing.

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You probably didn't even see my screen. Go look at my pic with tons of evidence that I do in fact have DX10. And where the -blam!- did you get 8800 from? You must be jealous. If my PC was low end, it would barely play FEAR. It plays FEAR very well, but then I got bored of it and uninstalled it which is why it isn't there. You are just some ass that can't handle the fact that a kid has a high end PC.


Oh yeah, I'm definately jealous with Vista's dxdiag reporting my X1400 integrated POS to be a DX10 card. And what you might consider well, I consider bad. I got 8800 as the most optimistic example of what you could have. It might play FEAR, but I bet you it's at either 800x600 or 1024x768 with most of everything on LOW with no SM3 utilization. Your Sempron rig is very similar to my 4 year old rig, even if it's new. If you have a high end PC, then my current notebook with a T7200 is a -blam!- quantum computer.

And Oimnos, that's beta. Beta for a good reason, might I add. It will also stay beta until there are 3rd party DX10 apps which can be used for out of house testing.

also:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/zeph483/orly.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/zeph483/yahrly.jpg


Well Zeph ALL drivers are beta tbph. All drivers that are Downloaded from Nvidia or Nzone are BETA.

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Actually it played FEAR with everything highest but with the res at 1024x768 because my card is awesome. The only reason it was at 1024x768 was because my monitor doesn't support higher resolutions. I'm sorry if me not being a geek that replaces his PC every month offends you.

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Well Zeph ALL drivers are beta tbph. All drivers that are Downloaded from Nvidia or Nzone are BETA.


All nVidia's Vista drivers, perhaps. 84.63, for instance, is final. I'll leave your broad use of the word "ALL" as a referral to nVidia. Otherwise, I could flood the internet tubes with links to final drivers.

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I'm sorry if me not being a geek that replaces his PC every month offends you.


I love that you said that.

I don't believe you've mentioned what card you have, either :p.

  • 03.09.2007 6:17 PM PDT
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Operating System: Windows Vista
RAM: 702 MB
Processor: AMD Sempron 2800+ ~1.6 GHz
Video Card: nVidia GeForce 6200 with 256 MB VRAM
Sound Card: RealTek AC97 Audio
DirectX Version: DX10
Net Speed: 108 Mbps

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Well Zeph ALL drivers are beta tbph. All drivers that are Downloaded from Nvidia or Nzone are BETA.


All nVidia's Vista drivers, perhaps. 84.63, for instance, is final. I'll leave your broad use of the word "ALL" as a referral to nVidia. Otherwise, I could flood the internet tubes with links to final drivers.


mind sending me final links for 93.81?

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My nVidia Vista driver version is 100.65.

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