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Posted by: Godshatter
Why in Gods name is Warlock not on the list? WARLOCK IS THE WORST BY FAR!!!!!!


Amen!!!!! that is why i choose the last option. great poll. i think that warlock should be duals only. that would be so much fun and then you wouldn' t spawn on the underneath side and get nailed with cross fire from three BR's cuz the other team has all the platforms with BR's. I would say warlock, then elongation. don't change gemini. I think that gemini is a great small map and with the SMG start it rocks. It takes team work to do well and you can take over the outside from another team if they have it guarded. As far as Battle Creek, I mean Beaver Creek, i think it should revert back to human set with no rockets. That would be a great game type. Terminal is an amazing map for skirmish, just not plots. we can all gripe about different maps, but i think that warlock is by far the worst map out there.

  • 09.25.2006 8:43 AM PDT
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I don't get why people hate elongation. It sure is not the best suitable map for some gametypes, including NEUTRAL FLAG but for team slayers, it's good. the only problem is that it includes a plasma pistol that tends to create the noob combo too often

  • 09.25.2006 9:39 AM PDT
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elongation, as my number 1 on your list.

as my number 1 NOT on your list, i'd have to say Gemini. i can't stand that map.

  • 09.25.2006 9:44 AM PDT
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i would like to see ppl give reasons and yes we all hate the noob combo, but when u have a chance, use it. as far as why you hate a map, i would like to see more valid reasons. power weapon issues is a concern like on ivory tower. gemini is a great map, so is ivory tower, so is midship. elongation is ok, not my favorite, but i would rather see warlock reworked like with duals only to make more balanced. also, what about making it human only on beaver creek, elongation, and another map that has PP's in it?

  • 09.25.2006 9:50 AM PDT

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i would like to see ppl give reasons and yes we all hate the noob combo, but when u have a chance, use it. as far as why you hate a map, i would like to see more valid reasons. power weapon issues is a concern like on ivory tower. gemini is a great map, so is ivory tower, so is midship. elongation is ok, not my favorite, but i would rather see warlock reworked like with duals only to make more balanced. also, what about making it human only on beaver creek, elongation, and another map that has PP's in it?


I actually like the noob combo, it was already announced its not getting removed and team duels i believe are not coming back with what happened a few updates ago

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i know that duals isn't coming back, but it would take away the BR advantage of warlock. i am trying to attempt give my opinion on how they could change a bad map into a balanced map. the symmetry of warlock would make duals rather unique. i know it isn't coming back but one game of it wouldn't hurt. ppl complained about duals cuz there was no power weapons. i remember playing duals in slayer in was very team based. i stil think that all maps are great and like variety with the maps.

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The only way is to make it a BR start but i doubt they'll do it because the BR's are constantly spawning in slayer games

  • 09.25.2006 10:05 AM PDT

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I actually think Elongation is a great map. Midship and Warlock, on the other hand, are not great maps. It's too easy to get the advantage on those maps, and once one team has that advantage, it's almost impossible for the other team to win, no matter how good they are. Plus, i've had too many people spawn right behind me and then assassinate me. Midship would be an awesome map if you didn't start with the crappy plasma rifle. I think the high-low dynamic would be awesome if it was Team Slayer BR.

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Elongation is a dumb map because people can just stay at the top and cherrypick off other ppl with the BR... i mean seriously its just 2 long hallways and it doesn't even involve any fun

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also, the host issue on elongation with the brute shot. 2 shots to kill. that is insane, but i like elongation except when the host quits and the boxes stop coming down. then the game is aweful!!!

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i agree, and i mean honestly, wut is the deal with the host issue? i swear it's such an advantage over the other people especially when sniping, using grenades, or meleeing. 1 grenade with host always kills me and host shotgun is always more powerful than mine; i hope Halo 3 has no host issues

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the issue is that bungie doesn't have dedicated servers to just halo, or something like that. either way, it does happen, but we are nearing the 2 yr anniversary of the game, host has been an issue since its inception. which map do u dislike the most tho?

  • 09.25.2006 11:18 AM PDT
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I hate burial mounds for CTF/Assualt games (where it's all too easy to spawn camp the offensive team), and Warlock for pretty much everything. I can't count the number of times I've spawned only to be nailed by like, 4 different BR shots in the head. Comebacks are near impossible.

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agree platypus!!! it is an aweful map, that is why i think it should be duals only, but baccardinals said that game type won't comeback, which is fine, but for warlock, i think it would be a great addition!!!

  • 09.25.2006 11:57 AM PDT
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Burial Mounds. Why? The map just simply sucks, and seems boring. Very frustrating when you start getting BRed from somewhere you cannot tell and cannot do anything about it.

Beaver Creek. BORING.

Containment. BORING. Usually objective games end up as a tie. Super-boring for Slayer.

Elongation. BORING. Except I have new-found love for that map when playing Chamb0 CTF.

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Acension on team snipers. Superbouncers and spawn killing every time. It gets annoying.

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Yeah, once they get 2 snipers on you when you're attacking on Burial Mounds, you might as well just stand there and die. Unless your team is VERY good, theres a 95% chance you won't make it out with the bomb alive...

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oddball on warlock sux in my opinion

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May elongation burn to FREAKING HELL!!!!!! It should not even exist (especially in ranked games)

  • 09.25.2006 6:00 PM PDT
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Elongation from that list but if I could pick another it would be Warlock without a second thought. I hate that freakin map.

  • 09.25.2006 6:36 PM PDT

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Elongation is only good with 1 flag capture or one way assualt. even then its to easily lopsided. if the PP wasnt on it disabling the noob then the weapons match up would be a lot better. starting with BR's is probably the most favorable way to go with 1 flag ctf. as for those who hate Midship/warlock why? there great symetrical maps impling great team work to win. H2 is about team work on LIVE when it comes to serious Level up. you aint gonna get there are your own. finding 3 really good players you get along with and understand their style of play and syncrenizing with them as a cohesive unit is the only way to level up past your 'actual' level. thats why 1v1 is gone...thats why double team might go soon as well its becoming far to simular in pyschology of game play to 1v1. meaning the the match is usualy determined inside the 1st 30 seconds.. but maybe thats just me. maybe im wrong... just a bit. Gemini on the other hand is a personal fav for me. havnt a clue why i dont care for the map layout or weapon setups, but no matter how crappy (trust me im horrible) im playing that day the instant i get put on gem in MM i alawys play VERY well. used to be like that on sanctuary, which i actualy like alot esp nutrual bomb/flag. Lock out is THE BEST MAP. Coag is the Fan fav...please leave these maps alone. thank you. B. Mounds is great for objective BR start ditto for relic and terminal. stay off these maps if your a hardcore TS type of player. Collosses sucks no matter what game type your playing. its just a weird map that noone i mean NOONE likes AT ALL. the winners on this map are usualy the ones who hate and suck at it less then the other guys. Containment=sidewinder for Halo 2. leave it alone. beaver creek. i liked battle creek name better. maybe in halo 3 they will refrane from using a double pun for hidden "sugjestive" intents for the name of a 'location' in which 'great' battles are 'hard' fought and won..... IF anyone who read this 'little' part understands where i'm 'coming' from please put it in their Sig.s Thx ^_______________^


OMG Ninja is gonna have my B***s for this but ohwell it NEEDED to be said

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Posted by: greatgrimreaper
Elongation is only good with 1 flag capture or one way assualt. even then its to easily lopsided. if the PP wasnt on it disabling the noob then the weapons match up would be a lot better. starting with BR's is probably the most favorable way to go with 1 flag ctf. as for those who hate Midship/warlock why? there great symetrical maps impling great team work to win. H2 is about team work on LIVE when it comes to serious Level up. you aint gonna get there are your own. finding 3 really good players you get along with and understand their style of play and syncrenizing with them as a cohesive unit is the only way to level up past your 'actual' level. thats why 1v1 is gone...thats why double team might go soon as well its becoming far to simular in pyschology of game play to 1v1. meaning the the match is usualy determined inside the 1st 30 seconds.. but maybe thats just me. maybe im wrong... just a bit. Gemini on the other hand is a personal fav for me. havnt a clue why i dont care for the map layout or weapon setups, but no matter how crappy (trust me im horrible) im playing that day the instant i get put on gem in MM i alawys play VERY well. used to be like that on sanctuary, which i actualy like alot esp nutrual bomb/flag. Lock out is THE BEST MAP. Coag is the Fan fav...please leave these maps alone. thank you. B. Mounds is great for objective BR start ditto for relic and terminal. stay off these maps if your a hardcore TS type of player. Collosses sucks no matter what game type your playing. its just a weird map that noone i mean NOONE likes AT ALL. the winners on this map are usualy the ones who hate and suck at it less then the other guys. Containment=sidewinder for Halo 2. leave it alone. beaver creek. i liked battle creek name better. maybe in halo 3 they will refrane from using a double pun for hidden "sugjestive" intents for the name of a 'location' in which 'great' battles are 'hard' fought and won..... IF anyone who read this 'little' part understands where i'm 'coming' from please put it in their Sig.s Thx ^_______________^


OMG Ninja is gonna have my B***s for this but ohwell it NEEDED to be said


Yeah, Elongation is very good for CTF... if the weapon setting is on Human...

  • 09.25.2006 9:35 PM PDT

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I definantly have to disagree that elongation is the worst, when infact it is one of the best. The track in elongation is entertaining to play on since its not used in other maps very well (i.e. Colussus) the boxes allow easy access to upper levels. But most of all it gets away from the idea of dark purple, tan or grey as the primary color of the map. Where as Elongation is painted red and blue and looks awesome! However I usually play SWAT so I don't get much Elongation elsewhere but it is a joy to play on SWAT.
If anything I think Beaver Creek is the worst map now. Play 10 games and 4 of them are Beaver Creek! People either camp at the teleporter or go for the oversheild. It's not fun either way. Also with the inclusion of the rockets and barely anything else good except for 1 shotty and 1 sniper. The rockets easily take over the match.

  • 09.25.2006 11:55 PM PDT

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Warlock.

  • 09.26.2006 12:43 AM PDT