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Tom Achronos
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"I have no words that would do justice to the atrocities you commit to the English language, as well as your continued assaults on the concepts of basic literacy and logical reasoning."
Hmm...
Posted by: Deaths Divinity
to tell you recon, but you werent involved in certain discussions between moderators and members. I also hate to tell you, but word spreads quickly, especially when PMs are sent to users containing parts of this discussion. Private discussions.... like all of the moderators agreeing not to lock the skulls thread, letting users back in as long as they dont reference their other accounts, etc. you dont mean anything like those private discussions, or that I have been messaged with private info, ask achronos on this one, as I wont post it because it would be really wrong to do so.
I don't think you are talking about the correct thing here. We were talking about Toast, right? In which case, no Recon is correct, you are not. Those discussions and such that you linked were the very last step, and you missed a lot of the beginning part. So, I suggest you stop talking about it... because it is none of your business and tainting your comments with half truths and some outright lies about that situation to not help your credibility.
Do you not realize the contradiction in this post? Noise, disruption, but no attention was given? That makes perfect sense to me. Which is why the forum posted was spammed by moderators of this site? Your right, it had no effect. If it was taking its course, why did it take over 1 year, yet he was removed less than two weeks after the posting of the goatse man thread?
You are associating the wrong cause with an effect and omitting a huge part of the backstory. Context is key.
I hate to tell you, but if you take a look in that group I posted, quite a few people agreed with the points presented, and actually got quite involved in refining them. Not to mention PMs sent on this site of moderators proclaiming their support of the removal of toast.
Um... the difference being the moderators weren't also engaged in making up or exaggerating stories about his conduct (which did happen, and not just to Toast). Sounds like the moderators were being professional about it, and you are simply assuming things from a limited vantage point. I don't see you having access to everybody's PMs and groups... oh wait, that'd be me.
There is a difference between you and me recon, you are speaking for the authority, and bias your opinions as to not acknowledge anything but the "leaderships" good features, while I post the good and the bad.
No, the difference between him and you is that he is a consummate professional, one of the best moderators on any site anywhere, and you are someone who posts the good and the bad without really understanding any of the facts behind things.
Now, the greatest point in all of this is that recon insists that they were already investigating the matter. So, there are a few possible conclusions which could be reached.
1. They were investigating the matter and didnt find all of the things that were easily found by others.
2. They did know of toasts wrong doings and allowed someone clearly in the wrong to retain their powers and act with them freely
3. They werent investigating at all and this is yet another case of the truth being less than prevalent
1. Or we found multiple evidence that was fabricated (that happened a whole bunch).
2. This didn't happen.
3. "Another case?" Hmm... sounds like someone who was banned earlier is on an alt...
So, were you incompetent, lying, or did you allow someone clearly in the wrong to continue his wrong doings?
Or you are misinformed? Perhaps you are the one making illogical assumptions, then?
It is clear to me that atleast in part, your post was an attempt to reinforce the control of this site, you seem to have it in your mind that someone is trying to take your baby. The fact is that nobody wants it, so actions to prevent it are not needed, much less desireable or anything but a general annoyance and waste of time.
What the hell? What are you talking about? It isn't his site. It is Bungie's site. Stop trying to obfuscate the point.
Please, stop trying to attack my character, which seems to have been the goal of you mentioning the word "ego" like a trained parrot. If I really wanted to inflate myself I would, but I am not trying to do that, so dont question it. Stick to the points, I didnt attack you, so dont attack me.
Yes, you did. Specifically, you suggested that both myself and the other moderators are either liars or incompetent, both of which are serious personal attacks. And especially coming from someone without much in the way of real facts and just armed with half-truths and some bald-faces lies... well, let's just say that you started it.
On the selection of moderators
It is clear, that contrary to the statements made by others, the selection of moderators IS based on their PERSONAL standings with the other moderators. It is really similar to the andrew jackson "spoils of war" system where moderators put in a good word for their friends, even if they arent the best person for the job.
If you check the past history of chosen moderators, you will see that they play with the moderator "click" and are in the same groups as other moderators. Now, there are a few exceptions to this, I wont deny that, but the general trend is friends of moderators become moderators before anyone else. That is simply how it works.
As the other moderators are only allowed to nominate other mods, not actually pick them (that's my job), you are only demonstrating your lack of knowledge again. All you have simply said is that the moderators nominate people they know. Would you rather them nominate people they don't know? I'm sorry, but that's such a stupid complaint. And it doesn't matter because I'm the one making the final call anyway.
EDIT: As for your terrorist comments, you should really learn what is going on before you post. If I wanted to cause problems I wouldve done it last night, or earlier in the week. I am not going to go into specifics, but I got some things sent to me that I couldve really been an ass with. Ask achronos on that one, I actually PMed him with the information to give him a heads up so he would be able to better deal with the issue. Like I said, i wont post the direct information, if you dont know about it, you can PM him on the issue.
And as I told you, such information is common knowledge (google me). I've been using the Internet since before Mosaic existed; nothing about me is on the Internet that would surprise me. I'm not some fool who thinks he's anonymous on the Internet.
Besides, you know damn well that he was using the word "terrorist" to describe the type of things people were doing to get Toast removed. If a bunch of the reasons given weren't lies and half-truths, then they'd be called activists. Don't assume you know more about the history of things here than I do. The thing with Toast has a far earlier history than you think and didn't even start with him - it started with Shishka.