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Seeing as my Original post was totally misunderstood, and taken as nothing but an attack on TFM, even though that was only a small part of it, and that my attempt to get it back on topic and further express my point were totally ignored in said thread, I decided to just post exactly what I was trying to say here, where it is less likely to be ignored under one sided views of how seriously mistaken I am about TFM and other events, even though I plainly stated it was not my Rant. Why is it that the parts about TFM seem to be the only parts anyone can read?

Anyways, without further ado, here are my views. They are not an attack on anyone, they are not about power, polotics, or social melodramas, so please don't make them out to be. This is about the community, and if you read on maybe you'll understand. (Any Mod who wishes to can lock the old thread, as I will not participate in It any longer, as it is pointless to do so.)

Honestly, I think that Bungie has outgrown that Old Skool community, yet it still attempts to run itself and act as if it were still the same.

Something needs to change or I fear we are seeing the beginning of the end for the 7th Column. How long do you think Chapters are going to stick around if Achronos' new idea to make them 'not suck' again doesn't work?

If we want this old community feel to return, we need to all work at it. Not by being Forum Cops, not by constantly scouring Forums to 'help' people, and not by adhering to these so called hierarchies. I am so tired of seeing people reply to something with an almost exact copy of what someone else has already posted. Posts about features we never want to see seem to be nothing more than attention grabbers. ie: Look at me, I'm helping, I'm a Septagonian, I'm a Forum Cop, blah blah blah.

And make no mistake, I didn't post this for that reason either, before you accuse me read the top line in my original post, the one that says its not my Rant. I just think it has issues which greatly need discussed in it.

Of course, it is always great for a member like me to come along and rant like this(the again this isn't my rant so...), it happens every few months or so, but nothing ever comes of it., but I digress This time I'm going to go a bit farther.

I only hope Achronos sees this.

As far as the community side goes, I have said my piece there, and what happens will happen, that I cannot change. I can however offer my advice to Achronos, if he will take it, as to a way to bring back the 'community' on his side.

My advice falls under two different Categories: The 7th Column and Groups: How To Not Suck!

The 7th Column:
Bring it back, plain and simple. The 7th Column page is completely dead, this does not help to inspire a community feel at all. Try to get it active again. Some suggestions: Get the Spotlight up and running on some kind of regular basis, start doing the soapbox again, offer more Chapter support directly through the column. If you have to, try to get a certain someone who's entire job on B.net is to run that 7th Column page.

Maybe reactivate Team ACS(Active Chapter Support) and this time with the 7th Column as a backing. I was a part of the original Team ACS, and we did well, but with our lack of resources were overcome. We had to many request for help, we could not handle it. An official 7th Column Team ACS would be a welcome addition to the Community and groups.

I know not if this is possible, but try to get some real Bungie Employees, aside from Bungie.net workers(Frankie, yourself, Sketch, etc...) to become at least moderately active on the website. Of course this isn't an easy task I know, most will probably not want to do this. But, think about it for a moment. Having a Bungie employee around doing the sopbox, or for instance I have a technical question about Halo 3, or something to do with the engine, and I post it in the forums, there would be an actual employee there to answer me, participating. This would cause an immense community feel, as Bungie employees themselves would be a part of it.

Groups: How To Not Suck
I have no clue what you have in store for Group Achronos, so I can only speculate, but if your willing to take it here are a few ideas from a long time member.

Refine groups more, it may be harsh but maybe we should go back to having to have your group creation accepted. This would cut down on all of these copy groups and encourage more activity in the original ones. No need to have another damn halo 3 Beta group, just join the one that already exists and enjoy.

Make the homepages more customizable. As in, maybe design it so that you can choose different layout templates for your group Homepage. Nothing major of course, but kinda like the themes are now, just moving things around. Make more options also. Not all groups are about Clans, so why should all Display a Clan box? it should be a selectable option to show.

Also, why not expand even farther on Clan groups. Not only may you show your Clan box but make it so that you can fully implement your entire clan status, members, info, and etc into your chapter. Kinda like merging the Clan Page and Group. This would encourage more clans to have groups as their homepages, and thus expand the 7th Column further.

Of course these are just basic ideas, but they can be expanded on, refined, and made into something spectacular. I know, you don't just say thing and they happen, so making changes like these are not easy, but I have total confidence in your Web Development skills.

  • 03.14.2007 9:08 AM PDT

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Uhhh, Bungie can handle itself?

No offense to your ideas, but I think Bungie knows what it's doing.

[Edited on 3/14/2007]

  • 03.14.2007 9:10 AM PDT

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snowman, you know better than this, you've already posted this in your other thread, and if you feel it was misunderstood, explain it in the originating thread.

  • 03.14.2007 9:16 AM PDT