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Subject: The One Most Likely Way of Saving B.net
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This thread can be baleeted.

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  • 03.14.2007 4:10 PM PDT

2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

I don't think Bungie.net needs saving, personally. Seems alright to me. Maybe it's gotten a little boring, but so what? It's a forum not a entertainment system.

  • 03.14.2007 4:16 PM PDT

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What is this, Doomsday week?
Of course, it is right before the Second Coming Of The Hawtness.

Seems appropriate.

Bungie.net is awesome, I love it, I love the people (with the exclusion of manhandling and/or the exchange of saliva), and I think it's a great community. It's far better off than many others around the intrawebs.

Yes, I said intrawebs.

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  • 03.14.2007 4:19 PM PDT
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First of all, I would like to agree with you that yes, this community is going to crap, in my opinion as well. There are few things to talk about, few events that will keep us entertained for just so long. There is a limitation to all the discussions. However, I for one do not believe the community will flourish once Halo 3 will be released. Maybe the Halo 3 Forum yes, but others will still be the same.

In my opinion, the one thing that will get this community booming again will be interaction. Frankie, KP, hell even stosh hardly even posts here any more. The interaction between the fans and the workers has dwindled. I haven't seen a post in the actual forums by any of these three for quite some time. Sure Achronos and N0F jump in once in a great while, but that is not enough. Before, they were all part of the community. Now, they have all drifted away, this happened way before the announcement of Halo 3. The interaction with the community dwindled, and thus left people dumbfounded. I personaly believe that if these people interact with the community more, than maybe, just maybe, the community will be strong once more.

Sorry for all the spelling mistakes, not up for typing much this evening. I will probably fix the mistakes later when I have enough time.

Edit: And yes Achronos, I read your statement in the other thread related to this. However, with your statements, and yes, I did realize that I am in the wrong in many cases. I still believe that more interaction may bring life back to the community.


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  • 03.14.2007 4:21 PM PDT

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Maybe I missed your point here but you basically just gave a overview of bungie though the ages and then said Halo 3 was needed to revitalized the forums. I don't think anyone would disagree with you that Halo 2 has been talked about to death and everyone hangs on every slight update for Halo 3 and then discusses that to death.

Also that when Halo 3 comes out its going to bring in the next generation of people to eventually mature and become respected people and the next-gen of moderators. Of course Halo 3 will be the topic of discuss for almost every forum (despite any attempted containment by moderators) and all the same old topics will come back in Halo 3 form.

I think that pretty much summed up your rant and I and about every person that has been here along time will probably agree with you.

  • 03.14.2007 4:23 PM PDT
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Sorry, I posted before thinking. I believe that I've gone temporarily insane.

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  • 03.14.2007 4:52 PM PDT
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Geez. re-reading this, this is like my most poorly-written long post ever.

Ugh. See, I had this whole idea at the beginning of this rant, about an underlying message of Bungie basically being corporate sellouts. But in the process of writing it, I just couldn't do it. Bungie has done things that make them more "corporatized"(is that a word?), but they aren't sellouts. I jsut couldn't make myself write it.

Mediocre rant alert.

  • 03.14.2007 5:41 PM PDT

Posted by: Kilroy
Mediocre rant alert.


I do see a big ass rant, but I'm confused as to what your point is? Only the release of Halo 3 will save B.net?

The reason Bungie has lost it's charm as a small close knit community type website is because of Halo, Halo 2 more specifically. So releasing the most anticipated game in the history of the universe is not going to change that. In fact, it will only increase the number of undesirable fanbois who only take and never give.

The bigger something becomes, the more of it's heart & soul is lost. I think this is basically what you're saying, and I agree.

  • 03.14.2007 7:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: atomic weggie
The bigger something becomes, the more of it's heart & soul is lost.


THAT'S IT!

That's the point. Bungie, unintentionally of course, has alienated it's older fanbase, by making the decisions that it has.

  • 03.14.2007 7:32 PM PDT

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Posted by: Kilroy
Posted by: atomic weggie
The bigger something becomes, the more of it's heart & soul is lost.


THAT'S IT!

That's the point. Bungie, unintentionally of course, has alienated it's older fanbase, by making the decisions that it has.


Define what a member needs to be included in the "Older Fanbase".

  • 03.14.2007 7:34 PM PDT

because if seeing is believing,
then believe that we have lost our eyes

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Posted by: Kilroy
Posted by: atomic weggie
The bigger something becomes, the more of it's heart & soul is lost.


THAT'S IT!

That's the point. Bungie, unintentionally of course, has alienated it's older fanbase, by making the decisions that it has.


Define what a member needs to be included in the "Older Fanbase".

I would say early 2004 and farther back.

  • 03.14.2007 7:37 PM PDT
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Posted by: phoenix67
Posted by: SS_Zag1
Posted by: Kilroy
Posted by: atomic weggie
The bigger something becomes, the more of it's heart & soul is lost.


THAT'S IT!

That's the point. Bungie, unintentionally of course, has alienated it's older fanbase, by making the decisions that it has.


Define what a member needs to be included in the "Older Fanbase".

I would say early 2004 and farther back.


I wouldn't even say that. I'd actually just say pre-halo-3-announcement. Unless you want OLD older, then it's earlly 04 and before.

  • 03.14.2007 7:41 PM PDT

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Posted by: phoenix67
Posted by: SS_Zag1
Posted by: Kilroy
Posted by: atomic weggie
The bigger something becomes, the more of it's heart & soul is lost.


THAT'S IT!

That's the point. Bungie, unintentionally of course, has alienated it's older fanbase, by making the decisions that it has.


Define what a member needs to be included in the "Older Fanbase".

I would say early 2004 and farther back.


And Bungie has alienated me? I wasn't aware.

*spits chocolate milk onto monitor*
Kilroy, surely you jest.

Pre-Halo 3 Announcement!? Hahaha! Old? Now your opinion on this matter has much less of a concern with me... Mid 2006 until now? That's not old.

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  • 03.14.2007 7:41 PM PDT

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Don't you hate it when you run out of rant after the first two paragraphs? :P

That's typically when I say, "Ok, why the hell did I just waste 5 min wrighting this" and don't bother posting.

But I agree with ya Bungie Brother.

And if you think this site is dead, check out mine, I think myself and a couple others jumped the gun in making the site uppon the announcement of the Halo Movie :\

Some things can only be discussed so much, resulting in our forums full of very large, well debated topics, that are basically collecting much dust now, the only active secion is our off topic board, and that's on it's death breath, just the core members even log in these days.

Please Bungie, save the Halo Movie for the sake of my beloved site!

  • 03.14.2007 7:42 PM PDT

We’ve watched while the stars burned
Out, and creation played in reverse.
The Universe freezing in half-light.
Once I thought to escape.
To end a master, step out of the
Path of collapse. Escape would make us God.
Yet I cannot help but remember one enigma,
A hybrid, elusive destroyer.
This is the one mystery I have not solved.
The only element unaccounted for.

There was less activity even before H2, and I'd argue that it was better than way. Why? Because when threads in all the forums, not just those in here, stayed on the front page for more than half an hour there was a chance for real discussions, not the ADD style posting that is encouraged by the thread-a-minute that the other forums reach.

  • 03.14.2007 9:37 PM PDT
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Am I supposed to care?

  • 03.14.2007 9:47 PM PDT

We’ve watched while the stars burned
Out, and creation played in reverse.
The Universe freezing in half-light.
Once I thought to escape.
To end a master, step out of the
Path of collapse. Escape would make us God.
Yet I cannot help but remember one enigma,
A hybrid, elusive destroyer.
This is the one mystery I have not solved.
The only element unaccounted for.

Posted by: dalmedya
Am I supposed to care?

No more than we are supposed to care about your opinion.

  • 03.14.2007 9:50 PM PDT
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Posted by: phoenix67
I would say early 2004 and farther back.

Aw man.

I don't even LIKE Halo that much.
-TGP-

  • 03.14.2007 10:02 PM PDT

If the community dies before the release of Halo 3, it will be resurrected when it comes out.

  • 03.14.2007 10:44 PM PDT

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Then, came the mother of all Last-Gen games: Halo: Combat Evolved. This game saved the XBox. It gained worldwide popularity. It brought many a fan to b.net. But the gamers wanted more. So, there was the WWU. The good ol' Weekly What's Update. It consisted of questions submitted on the forums from members of b.net. It ended with a screenshot of Halo 2(then came Mister Chief, but that's another story). Bungie and its fans were very excited for Halo 2. Bungie revealed as much as it possibly could about H2 without revealing major plot points.

One minor thing I'd like to point out. There was NEVER a Halo 2 Weekly Update.

During Halo 2's Production, it was actually the Bungie Weekly Update, and usually posted information related to Bungie rather than the game, although occasionally there were tidbits about the game, just like there are now. The weekly what's update however, was commenced after the release of Halo 2 and was designed to answer questions in a much safer way than directly asking the webmaster. <_<

What I'd really like to know is, where people got the idea that every update was suppost to have a complex information session about the game spoiling key plots and showing off stuff better found out by ones self.

Also, on a slightly unrelated note, where is the webmaster? Wasn't there suppost to be a Letters to the Webmaster session a couple of months ago?

  • 03.14.2007 11:20 PM PDT
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I would never eat a pet, as in an animal.
Now, if it was a pet cake or pie, then Hell YEAH! I'd eat that -blam!- man!

this thread is correct in every single way, the turn of events have seen my group (that was
extremely popular considering it was only made three days ago) member countdrop from 14
to 5, ive now deleted every ones posts in the forum so i can start over. sadly ive had no
more replies

bungie.net is the same but of course it wont fade as fast.

  • 03.14.2007 11:31 PM PDT

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Posted by: Kilroy
I wouldn't even say that. I'd actually just say pre-halo-3-announcement. Unless you want OLD older, then it's earlly 04 and before.


Hahahahahahaha...

  • 03.14.2007 11:58 PM PDT
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Posted by: Shishka
Posted by: Kilroy
I wouldn't even say that. I'd actually just say pre-halo-3-announcement. Unless you want OLD older, then it's earlly 04 and before.


Hahahahahahaha...

Look! It's an ancient one!

  • 03.15.2007 12:43 AM PDT
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Posted by: Shishka
Posted by: Kilroy
I wouldn't even say that. I'd actually just say pre-halo-3-announcement. Unless you want OLD older, then it's early 04 and before.

Hahahahahahaha...

I... I hope he's joking. "Alienate the older fanbase" being used to mean people who joined for Halo 2? That's the current fanbase, by a looong way. "OLD old" schoolers are few and far between, now.

We're like hermit crabs, in groups etc. Except Shishka. Although he has an excuse. :]

  • 03.15.2007 3:07 AM PDT

Posted by: Kilroy
Posted by: atomic weggie
The bigger something becomes, the more of it's heart & soul is lost.


THAT'S IT!
That's the point. Bungie, unintentionally of course, has alienated it's older fanbase, by making the decisions that it has.


I hear ya, but the majority of us here are in the group you're talking about.....post new hawtness influx of members. So it's hard for me to stand on my soapbox when I myself am a product of the shiny heartless machine we're discussing. I played the hell out of the Myth series, but I was not a member of B.net until Halo 2 came out.

Listen Kilroy, what you wrote has some truth to it but releasing Halo 3 will not cure the ills of B.net. Sure Bungie has taken become a more streamlined corporate game site. But it still has enough charm for me to stick around, and I think a lot of people feel the same way.

  • 03.15.2007 8:33 AM PDT

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