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Why is it enforced in Bungie forums? Is it protection of people so they don't get offended... Unless you plan on removing human communication, that seems rather innevitable... For example a person can get offended based on the fact that someone says "battle rifle is pro," while someone else believes otherwise... Yes, I sound fairly off right now, but oh well. It's just a thought...

  • 03.15.2007 10:59 PM PDT

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Censorship is only practiced if such being said is in violation of the rules.

This is a corporate, privately owned site, and as such has certain obligations to presentation, namely topics that do not offend peoples political or religious beliefs, and threats made to users, or slander of someone's persona.

There are private Groups that allow for some bending of the site rules, but on the public forums, we try to maintain some decency.

  • 03.15.2007 11:11 PM PDT
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I personally don't see anything wrong with saying -blam!-, -blam!- or even -blam!- (although by the time I'm Recon's age I might. :P). I'm sure some people would find it offensive.

And no one's actually offended by the fact that the battle rifle is pro. If they are, they need to get out more.

Well, if you look at it this way: either we censor stuff we know a lot of people would be offended by, we don't do anything and let the spam be crass and rude, or we just kill the forums.

I'll go for option 1!
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  • 03.15.2007 11:12 PM PDT
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I think seeing -blam!- is better than seeing the variety of words it filters out. As it were. Uh.

Why not have a filter for bad words? =P

As for filtering of topics (religion, politics etc.) the subjects in question invariably lead to nothing but flame wars. There are chapters built specifically to allow discussion of those topics not allowed on here, if you enjoy debate: The Black Chapter is the biggest, I think.

  • 03.16.2007 4:45 AM PDT
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Posted by: Great_Pretender
I personally don't see anything wrong with saying -blam!-, -blam!- or even -blam!- (although by the time I'm Recon's age I might. :P). I'm sure some people would find it offensive.

And no one's actually offended by the fact that the battle rifle is pro. If they are, they need to get out more.

Well, if you look at it this way: either we censor stuff we know a lot of people would be offended by, we don't do anything and let the spam be crass and rude, or we just kill the forums.

I'll go for option 1!
-TGP-

Or we could cut off the spam at its source and delete the flood? Hmmm? That would leave them nowwhere to go infecting the other forums, on second thoughts mabye it should be left alone.

  • 03.16.2007 6:21 AM PDT

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-blam!- - now thats censorship at its finest

  • 03.16.2007 6:56 AM PDT
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Anyone but Foman. He smells like cheese.

Posted by: AnalyticalEdify
Why is it enforced in Bungie forums? Is it protection of people so they don't get offended... Unless you plan on removing human communication, that seems rather innevitable... For example a person can get offended based on the fact that someone says "battle rifle is pro," while someone else believes otherwise... Yes, I sound fairly off right now, but oh well. It's just a thought...


I like how you call it "censorship" in order to give the worst possible negative connotation. But really, there is no censorship of ideas here. That is the best part. You can say whatever you want so long as you keep it within the rules and avoid certain of the very most controversial of topics.

The only "ideas" that are forbidden for discussion here are those of religion, politics, and illegal activities. But even those taboos are not Draconianly enforced here.... they are "generally enforced less strictly [in the Flood] than in the other forums." Moreover, religious and political discussions are often allowed by the moderators when they are posted in a non-controversial, discussion-generating type way. For example, discussing Bible references in the Halo games. So even these topics are not entirely restricted.

And let's be serious - if you want to discuss any of those topics in depth, why would you try to do it on a video game developer's website?

Except for those three subjects, you are free to talk about any idea you want. There is no "censorship." Sure, you must keep within certain confines (for example, not using bad words, not posting illegally leaked material, and not petitioning/flaming/spamming) but you are still free to exchange the ideas you have.

In that way, think of posting here the same way you would think of writing a sonnet. Sure, you are restricted to your certain number of lines, iambic pentameter, and may not rhyme certain words; but within that framework, you can talk about pretty much anything you want. It's the same general concept here.

Are you seriously saying that the terms of use and forum rules have restricted your promulgation of ideas? Please enlighten us further as to exactly what you mean by "censorship," because I am relatively sure that it does not occur on this site except in the aforementioned topics, which really have little to do with the topics relevant to a video game developer anyway. And, if you don't mind, please provide us with an example of an idea or concept that you have tried or desired to talk about that was subsequently "censored."

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  • 03.16.2007 7:06 AM PDT

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Posted by: x Foman123 x
Abnormally long very well thought-out post about censoring ideas.


Great post Foman, but he never said they were censoring ideas, just words.

We know what he means.

:P

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Posted by: DEATHPIMP72
Anyone but Foman. He smells like cheese.

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Posted by: x Foman123 x
Abnormally long very well thought-out post about censoring ideas.


Great post Foman, but he never said they were censoring ideas, just words.

We know what he means.


Haha... I'm so bored at work!! :-P

But seriously, GameJunkieJim's response, the first response in this thread, talked about the censorship of ideas - not bad words. I thought I would respond in the same vein that he did, since the original post never even mentioned the "blam" filter but rather used the word "censorship," which is usually used in connection with ideas or subject matter.

Anyway, just thought I'd clarify my thoughts on it. I'm not the only one who thinks that he wasn't just talking about bad words.

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  • 03.16.2007 7:34 AM PDT

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Oh wow, I was seriously under the impression he had mentioned blammed words in his post.

I think I'm going crazy, because I honestly remember reading that.

Maybe it was a different thread.

Sorry, Foman.

This won't hinder my changes of one day becoming your lover will it?

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Posted by: DEATHPIMP72
Anyone but Foman. He smells like cheese.

Posted by: Kamatzu
This won't hinder my changes of one day becoming your lover will it?


No problem man.... Are you kidding? It just makes them even better!

Okay everybody.... uh... nothing to see here between me and Kamatzu... just ignore the gross-sounding noises...... back to your regularly scheduled discussion of censorship.....

  • 03.16.2007 7:49 AM PDT

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Posted by: AnalyticalEdify
Why is it enforced in Bungie forums? Is it protection of people so they don't get offended... Unless you plan on removing human communication, that seems rather innevitable... For example a person can get offended based on the fact that someone says "battle rifle is pro," while someone else believes otherwise... Yes, I sound fairly off right now, but oh well. It's just a thought...


ssshhhhhhhhhhh!

Just drink the kool-aid and everyuthing will be alright.

  • 03.16.2007 12:21 PM PDT

I find it funny bastard isn't censored.

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Posted by: twinkiemaker
ssshhhhhhhhhhh!

Just drink the kool-aid and everyuthing will be alright.
Funny thing is, I created this out of drunkness. I really don't care if there's censorship or not, I just thought it would be a funny topic. Lock it or discuss it if you want moderators.

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Posted by: DEATHPIMP72
Anyone but Foman. He smells like cheese.

Posted by: AnalyticalEdify
Funny thing is, I created this out of drunkness. I really don't care if there's censorship or not, I just thought it would be a funny topic.


Suuure you did. I, like you, often find myself using this excuse when I don't want people to think I asked a silly question.

:-P

  • 03.16.2007 12:45 PM PDT
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Posted by: x Foman123 x
Suuure you did. I, like you, often find myself using this excuse when I don't want people to think I asked a silly question.

:-P
I suppose randomly adding members and mods(to msn) from here, pissing like a race horsse everying half hour, walking to the store instead of driving, and downing a bottle of power aid so I don't wake up hung over, is all part of that "excuse" as well. =\

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  • 03.16.2007 12:53 PM PDT

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I'm not convinced. You're going to have to mis-spell a lot more words if I'm going to believe you.

  • 03.16.2007 1:21 PM PDT

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Posted by: AnalyticalEdify
Why is it enforced in Bungie forums? Is it protection of people so they don't get offended... Unless you plan on removing human communication, that seems rather innevitable... For example a person can get offended based on the fact that someone says "battle rifle is pro," while someone else believes otherwise... Yes, I sound fairly off right now, but oh well. It's just a thought...

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Wait, so we don't HAVE to make the trains run on time?



As long as trains are allowed, I'm happy.

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Posted by: Recon Number 54
But we almost have the trains running on time!


That made me giggle :P.

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