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The FRG is the most unbalanced piece of crap ever. Anyone good with it can take down anything, other than a sniper that's really far away. And having to go all the way to a sniper rifle to take down one guy is retarded.

Don't give me the crap of how it's balanced because of how people can survive getting hit or because of how it curves due to gravity. People die in two hits, and with the FRG's rate of fire, that is nothing. As for the curve, it's easily predictable, and you can take down a warthog from a very long distance.

As for splash damage killing the user, very few people that I know are stupid enough to kill themselves with their own gun.

On the other hand, the flamethrower works really well, and is excellently balanced. It absolutely dominates in super-close quarters, but it is worthless in most other situations, so yeah.

But anyway, between getting both and getting neither, I'd choose getting neither. I'm sorry, but I don't feel bad about depriving brats from their supergun.

  • 03.17.2007 6:33 PM PDT
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im glad that someone sees that the flamethrower is not unbalanced but i never said that they FRG is balanced i simply said that its got good and bad points to it. The flamethrower was put in because bungie wanted to put in something from the original halo when it was just a simple RTS. I dont truly like the FRG but the flamethrower is my best friend in sticky situations and is simply just really cool. I just want to see something new thats official in halo 2 for the pc because pc's can handle more than an xbox can so shouldn't we have games at their full potential. I think having an update for it later on would be reasonable for the halo pc fans. Even if we get HEK for it; not every random person knows how to use it to its full capabilitys, but bungie knows how to make it in the best way possible, so shouldn't there be some things put into the mix that gives it some flare and flavor.

Im sorry if this seems longstreched but im asking opions on new weapons/vehicals/maps that would fit into H2V not your opinion if this will happen or not. This started off as a request for people to put in their thoughts about this topic. Not to argue about controversial things such as the weapons. I am asking for ideas not objections on things.

read the topic stament for a general idea then read the posts and then respond to the posts haveing a connection to the main idea not some other crap like the post that a10 master put in here causing this thing to become a giant "heavys are awsome" arguing palooza.

  • 03.18.2007 7:10 AM PDT

Grunts make good lovers;not fighters.

Why do people complain about the sword. Just shoot the sword guy with a shotgun when he lunges at you.If you have quick reaction time you will always prevail over the sword.Even plasma rifle and SMG combo has a decent chance against it or just stick them(which will take you out with them most likely).I can name so many more ways to bet it,but I will let you guys find out.

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  • 03.18.2007 1:57 PM PDT
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Posted by: Grunt Lover 69
Why do people complain about the sword. Just shoot the sword guy with a shotgun when he lunges at you.If you have quick reaction time you will always prevail over the sword.Even plasma rifle and SMG combo has a decent chance against it or just stick them(which will take you out with them most likely).I can name so many more ways to bet it,but I will let you guys find out.


see goods, and bads. Flamethrowers are horrible on vehicles and any target farther than 8 feet. the FRG, i admit is unbalanced but it just needs some changes. Like the ones already done to it with the reloading and 4 sec firing pause and its fine. The idea about a exspaintion pack i think is a good idea for H2V.

  • 03.24.2007 2:14 PM PDT
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Posted by: ImSpartacus

the flamethrowerwas half baked, you cant see its flame if your settings are too low, and it glitches way more than it should. its just a stupid weapon. i think if it could be made a little more consistent it would be much cooler and easier to use. right now it just kind of scares people when u use it. u cant see the flame, hell the user is praying he doesnt die from it, and it eats ammo like crazy, the overheat system is just plain stupid (100 ammo points per clip, overheats after 70 points), mix that in with the limited range and u might as well not even put it in the game. big suprise why bungie might not put it in, ehh?


I actually found the perfect use for the flamethrower.

ChironT34, no shields, FF off, CTF

It was an all heavy game, and I got over 5 killtaculars in a row just by flaming a teleporter. (I had a rod to cover the backpack reload times)

It was pure flambe joy.

  • 03.24.2007 3:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: ImSpartacus

the flamethrowerwas half baked, you cant see its flame if your settings are too low, and it glitches way more than it should. its just a stupid weapon. i think if it could be made a little more consistent it would be much cooler and easier to use. right now it just kind of scares people when u use it. u cant see the flame, hell the user is praying he doesnt die from it, and it eats ammo like crazy, the overheat system is just plain stupid (100 ammo points per clip, overheats after 70 points), mix that in with the limited range and u might as well not even put it in the game. big suprise why bungie might not put it in, ehh?


I actually found the perfect use for the flamethrower.

ChironT34, no shields, FF off, CTF

It was an all heavy game, and I got over 5 killtaculars in a row just by flaming a teleporter. (I had a rod to cover the backpack reload times)

It was pure flambe joy.


Flamethrower half-baked....no. It half-bakes the enemy. Yes people do kill them selfs but thats just cause they don't know how to master it and won't worring that he'll be called a "noob" or "cheater". Its a good weapon. Everyine is critical about it because they don't know how to use it and they get killed by it, so you stay away from it and yell mean, rude, dume, and pathetic things to it and anything 5-feet from it.

  • 03.31.2007 5:32 PM PDT
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Posted by: BlueWave
The flamethrower was put in because bungie wanted to put in something from the original halo when it was just a simple RTS. I dont truly like the FRG but the flamethrower is my best friend in sticky situations and is simply just really cool. I just want to see something new thats official in halo 2 for the pc because pc's can handle more than an xbox can so shouldn't we have games at their full potential.

From the RTS?

The Halo flamethrower, the M7057, is actually a throwback to the TOZT-7 Backpack Napalm Unit of Marathon.

I sure would like to see the flamethrower in H2V, if for nothing but old times sake. That, and the H2 render of the flamethrower on pp 104-105 of The Art of Halo book looks cool.

The code of the flamethrower is included in the Xbox version of Halo, except for the third person animations. Bungie didn't really add the flamethrower, per say, they resurrected it.

  • 04.01.2007 8:16 PM PDT

Let there be CHAOS!

Posted by: Master Kim
I think you are forgetting that the FRG caused framerate issues... on the Xbox. :)


Bungie are liars.

  • 04.01.2007 10:51 PM PDT
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Well if you want special maps ,vehicles and weapons to H2V , you problably can get much of them , within a month-3 months after H2V's release.. ( custom user-made maps with the editing kit )

Btw. flamethrower was cool in Halo 1 , but I just can't imagine it in Halo 2 , so no.

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  • 04.02.2007 2:18 AM PDT
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What has your lack of imagination got to do with Bungie's weapon choices?

  • 04.02.2007 4:02 AM PDT
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Posted by: BlueWave
The flamethrower was put in because bungie wanted to put in something from the original halo when it was just a simple RTS. I dont truly like the FRG but the flamethrower is my best friend in sticky situations and is simply just really cool. I just want to see something new thats official in halo 2 for the pc because pc's can handle more than an xbox can so shouldn't we have games at their full potential.

From the RTS?

The Halo flamethrower, the M7057, is actually a throwback to the TOZT-7 Backpack Napalm Unit of Marathon.

I sure would like to see the flamethrower in H2V, if for nothing but old times sake. That, and the H2 render of the flamethrower on pp 104-105 of The Art of Halo book looks cool.

The code of the flamethrower is included in the Xbox version of Halo, except for the third person animations. Bungie didn't really add the flamethrower, per say, they resurrected it.


Yes a RTS halo was originally a RTS, look it up. THe machette and flamethrower is from the origenal pc game. You see them here and there on the legendary icon to the pc weapon. I dont know anything about marathon though.
I know about the halo RTS because of the "art of halo" book it has pictures of it.

Pages 139-142 halo on pc as RTS, i looked it up and saw pictures of "spartans" using machettes and such things.

[Edited on 04.07.2007 9:35 PM PDT]

  • 04.02.2007 8:22 PM PDT
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aka lino4

Most of the PC issues posted here are the result of PEBKAC.

I want to use the beam type FRC that the Hunters used in H2. That would seem fair.

  • 04.02.2007 8:36 PM PDT
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Posted by: BlueWave
The flamethrower was put in because bungie wanted to put in something from the original halo when it was just a simple RTS. I dont truly like the FRG but the flamethrower is my best friend in sticky situations and is simply just really cool. I just want to see something new thats official in halo 2 for the pc because pc's can handle more than an xbox can so shouldn't we have games at their full potential.

From the RTS?

The Halo flamethrower, the M7057, is actually a throwback to the TOZT-7 Backpack Napalm Unit of Marathon.

I sure would like to see the flamethrower in H2V, if for nothing but old times sake. That, and the H2 render of the flamethrower on pp 104-105 of The Art of Halo book looks cool.

The code of the flamethrower is included in the Xbox version of Halo, except for the third person animations. Bungie didn't really add the flamethrower, per say, they resurrected it.


Yes a RTS halo was originally a RTS, look it up. THe machette and flamethrower is from the origenal pc game. You see them here and there on the legendary icon to the pc weapon. I dont know anything about marathon though.
I know about the halo RTS because of the "art of halo" book it has pictures of it.

Is it possible to buy/downlaod this rts?

  • 04.02.2007 9:45 PM PDT

Posted by: vincent5
I want to use the beam type FRC that the Hunters used in H2. That would seem fair.


Well then today's your lucky day. Bungie has anounced that H2V will have that gun. There have been some slight modifications though. the shape is different and the color of the beam has been changed too. also, the damage has been toned down for more balanced play during multiplayer and it has a new name. Its called the Sentinel Beam.

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Flamethrower? Unbalanced? That's an absolute joke.

The fact that you have to be right next to somebody to kill them with it is fair enough. Add that half the time you use it you end up committing suicide with it just makes an overall balanced weapon.

When you let somebody get that close to you with a flamethrower without killing them, you deserve to die.


Anyways, nothing beats BBQ'ing my fellow opponents with the flamethrower. Great Satisfaction.

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  • 04.02.2007 10:32 PM PDT
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Posted by: BlueWave
Im just wondering whats going to happen to H2V on multiplayer, will we keep the flamethrower and the fuel rod gun which we have all learn to love and enjoy. Or will we just get halo 2 for the pc and nothing speacial. I just want to know will we get new maps, weapons, and vehicals that the xbox crowd didnt get.

So please send in your opinions on this.

I know that all you halo pc gamers would love to see sequls to Danger Canyon and Death Island


If you haven't checked XBOX.com recently (which you oviously haven't) you would see that 2 new multiplayer maps are coming out for XBOX Live that will be STANDARD with HALO 2 Vista. I'm also pretty sure you will have to cough up some Microsoft Points for them as well. For the weapons, I haven't heard anything lately. Just thought I would make the map thing clear.

  • 04.02.2007 10:33 PM PDT
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Update on what I said on the 2 maps:
You can buy the 2 new maps for $4.00 off of XBOX Live Marketplace.
Both maps are from the first HALO and are finally available for the second one.
They are called Tombstone and Desolation respectively.

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  • 04.02.2007 10:49 PM PDT
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Posted by: gcolon101
Update on what I said on the 2 maps:
You can buy the 2 new maps for $4.00 off of XBOX Live Marketplace.
Both maps are from the first HALO and are finally available for the second one.
They are called Tombstone and Desolation respectively.


I have already heard of these but they are not danger canyon and ect.

I looked about the maps, theya almost put them in the multiplayer expansion pack but said that shouldn't press the programers, designers, etc... with them already being busy. plus this is pc not xbox.

  • 04.07.2007 9:41 PM PDT

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