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Subject: Is the Halo 1 pistol stronger then the Battle Rifle?
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the Battle Rifle killed a person in 4 shots... what do you think?

more like bursts.

but yeah. the br55 would be a piece of crap in real life. it's only 5mm where as the pistol is 12.5 mm

  • 03.23.2007 2:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: Noctilius
How would everyone having the same amount of aim-assist make you better at a BR than a pisol?
Indeed. That's like saying that no shields game types take skill to play because everyone has the same weakness. It doesn't.

  • 03.23.2007 4:41 PM PDT
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you're thinkg the SMG, it fires a 5.7mm caseless round. The BR fires a 9.5mm round which is bigger than most modern assault rifles (the M16 and most Western rifles fire a 5.56mm NATO round, the AK-74 fires a 5.45mm, and the famous AK-47 fires a 7.62mm). So the round is bigger than real rifles but smaller than the .50 cal in the pistol (12.7mm=.50cal)

  • 03.24.2007 12:37 AM PDT
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no way dude the battle rifle is way better then the pistol thats a crazy question everyone knows that the battle rifle is the best!!!

  • 03.24.2007 5:54 AM PDT
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Halo 2 has stronger shield.

  • 03.24.2007 7:46 AM PDT

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Posted by: MeArbiter
Halo 2 has stronger shield.


not necessarily. I think it's just that Halo 2's shield recharges faster.

  • 03.24.2007 7:53 AM PDT
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Yes, but it still doesn't matter. M6D FTW.

  • 03.24.2007 11:02 AM PDT
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Plus in the first halo u can hold the trigger and keep firing instead of pulling repeatedly.

  • 03.24.2007 12:02 PM PDT
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Yeah the pistol is way better! Faster to. Too bad they had to nerf it for Halo 2.

  • 03.24.2007 1:18 PM PDT
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the br is better more accruate

  • 03.24.2007 10:53 PM PDT

Now, I personally think that the BR55 is tougher, beacuse you have to pull the trigger for every three round burst. The pistol, however, requires next to no skill in my mind, as someone could easily hold the trigger down, and waste someone. The BR55 requires more of a steady hand than the Pistol. But, I do agree, that in terms of damage, the pistol completely owns the BR.

  • 03.25.2007 11:18 AM PDT
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I think the battle rifle has a way higher rate of fire than the CE pistol, but the pistol is one gun id want in the event of an alien invasion!!!!

  • 03.25.2007 11:48 AM PDT
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Posted by: theSpazzySpartan
Now, I personally think that the BR55 is tougher, beacuse you have to pull the trigger for every three round burst. The pistol, however, requires next to no skill in my mind, as someone could easily hold the trigger down, and waste someone. The BR55 requires more of a steady hand than the Pistol. But, I do agree, that in terms of damage, the pistol completely owns the BR.


If you hold down the trigger with the pistol, it would be so inaccurate its not even funny.

  • 03.25.2007 1:59 PM PDT
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Posted by: Noctilius
If you hold down the trigger with the pistol, it would be so inaccurate its not even funny.
Actually, you're wrong. It would be pretty amusing to see people try to write their names in the wall behind you in a pitiful attempt at blasting you away.

  • 03.26.2007 2:01 PM PDT

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The pistol is much needs a three shot kill when the br needs 15 shot kill so yah the pistol is better.

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they're both overpowered... why does a super soldier wearing amazing armor die in 1-2 hits when his shield is gone...? Wouldn't it make more sense to just pack each spartan with a shield generatior and call it good?

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  • 03.26.2007 8:38 PM PDT

Yeah, I agree, the Pistol and the Battle Rifle have some distinct differences over each other, some good and some bad. In my opinion, it really depends who's wielding the weapon. If someone's better with the Pistol than the BR then of course they say the Pistol is better. For me, both are the same. Yes, one does have a better rate of fire over the other but still. Both weapons to me are the same thing. They're equally usable for me.

  • 03.26.2007 9:20 PM PDT
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Posted by: Noctilius
If you hold down the trigger with the pistol, it would be so inaccurate its not even funny.
Actually, you're wrong. It would be pretty amusing to see people try to write their names in the wall behind you in a pitiful attempt at blasting you away.


No, i know for a fact that if you just hold the trigger down on the Halo: CE pistol, its way more inaccurate than when you pull the trigger each shot.

  • 03.26.2007 9:21 PM PDT
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halo 1 pistol is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much better than the BR.

  • 03.27.2007 3:27 AM PDT

Posted by: Noctilius
Posted by: Master Kim
Posted by: Noctilius
If you hold down the trigger with the pistol, it would be so inaccurate its not even funny.
Actually, you're wrong. It would be pretty amusing to see people try to write their names in the wall behind you in a pitiful attempt at blasting you away.


No, i know for a fact that if you just hold the trigger down on the Halo: CE pistol, its way more inaccurate than when you pull the trigger each shot.

As far as I'm aware firing the pistol in full auto does ruin the accuracy.

I never even knew you could hold down the trigger until about 6 months ago. That's how rubbish it is!

  • 03.27.2007 5:29 AM PDT
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halo 1 pistol cause it killed in 3 head shots and BR killed in 4 head shots so it is halo 1 pistol as the winner

  • 03.27.2007 8:03 AM PDT

Agreeded, Bungie better make it ass weaker but bet than the mag,or not dualable

  • 03.27.2007 9:40 AM PDT
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In my opinion anything is better then the BR... So probably :P

  • 03.27.2007 5:14 PM PDT
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Posted by: Noctilius
Posted by: Master Kim
Posted by: Noctilius
If you hold down the trigger with the pistol, it would be so inaccurate its not even funny.
Actually, you're wrong. It would be pretty amusing to see people try to write their names in the wall behind you in a pitiful attempt at blasting you away.


No, i know for a fact that if you just hold the trigger down on the Halo: CE pistol, its way more inaccurate than when you pull the trigger each shot.

As far as I'm aware firing the pistol in full auto does ruin the accuracy.

I never even knew you could hold down the trigger until about 6 months ago. That's how rubbish it is!


The guy that said "Actually you're wrong" was making a joke, the original quote said it would be so inaccurate it's not even funny, and the 2nd guy came along and said it would be quite amusing, but still inaccurate.

Anyway, my thoughts on this are that the pistol is stronger, firepower wise, however, the BR is a ridiculous weapon given the sheer retardedness of Halo 2's auto aim and ret-magnetism. Not to mention the hitboxes, you can aim a good 2 or 3 inches away from a person (complete miss on halo 1) and the bullets will miraculously curve (visibly curve or shoot out of the side of the gun) and hit the person anyway. Even around corners. If you gave the Halo 1 pistol the auto aim, hit boxes, and magnetism of halo 2, it would be extremely ridiculous, and the BR isn't far from the pistol in power, and seems a bit too powerful for the amount of noob-friendliness in halo 2.

[Edit]: Ah, almost forgot to mention, some of you people need to read the Halo books, (no they aren't just for nerds/geeks/fanboys) they actually do give you a good look at why some things are the way they are in the games, and are in general a really good story, especially if you like halo.

In halo 2, MC's armor is upgraded, not his shields, except for the shield recharge rate which is indeed faster. In Halo 3, MC's armor is apparently upgraded again, which would stand to reason that if the M6D does come back in its FULL GLORY in halo 3, not just some nerfed POS that bungie scooped out of their plunger like the magnum (magnum = a different gun than the M6D mind you), then the M6D would take at least one or two more head shots to kill, considering the armor/shielding upgrades.

I think for Halo 3, a good balance to the pistol would be

12 Round Clip ---> Replaced with 8 Round Clip
3 Shot Kill ---------> Replaced with 4 Shot kill.
Reload time the same
Dual Wieldable?-> Not too sure, but maybe.
2x Zoom Scope --> Should stay in, at 2x zoom. (but not while dual wielding of course)
Ammo Capacity --> 120, the same. (It's divisible by 8, 8 x 15 = 120)

There you have it.... Now the pistol would be fairly well balanced, instead of a possibility (albeit maybe not a probability) of 4 kills per clip, now you can possibly get 2 kills per clip, not too bad, considering the BR allows what, 3 kills per clip possible now, which isn't improbable with the auto aim of h2

[Edited on 04.30.2007 2:06 AM PDT]

  • 04.30.2007 1:56 AM PDT
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Posted by: Mattbluhalofan
3SK > 4SK
Pistol > Battle Rifle

Yep. Pistol's tougher.


Heck yes!

  • 04.30.2007 3:21 AM PDT

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