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  • 03.24.2007 11:29 AM PDT

Why do you all continue to insist on quoting his whole post??? Everyone can read guys - it's posted a few slots above your own - is it really necessary to quote every post someone makes for you to write one sentence in reply? Your error is thinking that his goal is to impress you - I'm sure he could really care less what you think of him - he's just a gamer tag to you. He posted his opinion, and no, everyone is not turning against him. I didn't see his comments as a fight - just thought this was a place where someone could post a reply to an update. You obviously don't comprehend the meaning of the word "pwned" - because no one's pwning anyone - they were just talking about the update. No one is whining, it's called opinion and insight, and thanks a lot for exceeding all stereotypes for reactionaries by throwing in "grow up" at the end of your post. Nice touch.

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  • 03.24.2007 11:31 AM PDT
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"Inside every cynical person is a disappointed idealist."
George Carlin

...I happen to know that a Banshee is going to drop off four Grunts and a Brute Chieftain.
That makes perfect sense.

  • 03.24.2007 12:15 PM PDT
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Frankie how is it, that you are able to paint masterpieces every week, do you secretly have artists at work everyday pumping out Mastercheif artwork.

  • 03.24.2007 12:15 PM PDT

These updates suck, they need to start giving us info on when the beta nad game will be released.

  • 03.24.2007 12:18 PM PDT

Great update! I am shaking with anticipation!

Just one question, how can a banshee drop off four grunts and a brute...aren't they one man fighters? Perhaps you meant Phantom?

A note on the Halo 1 dropships, the Spirits, I just think it'd be cool to see some heretics piloting a modified version of one or something. ;)

I like forward to taking my shotgun and going grousing, and trying to shoot down banshees and "choppers" with my rocket launcher from two miles away! Perhaps you may need to take the speed of sound into consideration with distant gun battle noises after all with distances that huge!

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  • 03.24.2007 12:19 PM PDT
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I don't understand why so many people are complaining about these updates. I for one think that was a really good one. What other game has distant air battles that are actually happening in game instead of just visual background crap? I'm gonna be wasting a TON of rockets shooting into those battles =). And I'm really excited about the huge environments that Frankie is talking about. Theres going to be actual BATTLES instead of the Hero vs. 5 or so baddies at a time that most FPS's are known for. And I'm looking forward to the snow updates that Frankie mentioned. Some really awesome stuff could be done wih snow.

  • 03.24.2007 12:21 PM PDT
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"Inside every cynical person is a disappointed idealist."
George Carlin

Posted by: PowerNoob3000
I don't understand why so many people are complaining about these updates. I for one think that was a really good one. What other game has distant air battles that are actually happening in game instead of just visual background crap? I'm gonna be wasting a TON of rockets shooting into those battles =). And I'm really excited about the huge environments that Frankie is talking about. Theres going to be actual BATTLES instead of the Hero vs. 5 or so baddies at a time that most FPS's are known for. And I'm looking forward to the snow updates that Frankie mentioned. Some really awesome stuff could be done wih snow.

Yeah for real. What do you guys want? A two page essay on Halo 3's story line? Go smoke a Ham.

  • 03.24.2007 12:22 PM PDT

Janitor is entitled to his opinion, but here are five very important ideas for Janitor to digest:

1. He has no idea who we did or did not make the game for, since he wasn't here.
2. Which is the most popular multiplayer console FPS on the pro circuit?
3. Janitor is derailing the thread. Stop quoting his giant threads. Take it to the Multiplayer forums.
4. Halo One still exists, is still excellent and Janitor should continue to enjoy playing that.
5. Three-shotting a player in the head from anywhere on a map, the second they spawn, requires very little skill and wrecks balance. Fun as it is.

This post is not a burn or ding at Janitor, many players feel the same way he does, and their opinions are perfectly valid. many more do not share those opinions. But again, wrong forum, wrong topic, stop derailing. Back to discussing the actual content of the update, and not what Janitor thinks about Halo 2.

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  • 03.24.2007 12:38 PM PDT

Posted by: The Kodemyster
...I happen to know that a Banshee is going to drop off four Grunts and a Brute Chieftain.
That makes perfect sense.


Thanks for the catch. Fixed: Phantom, obviously.

  • 03.24.2007 12:40 PM PDT
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Is the guy above me actualy the franky that gives us the awsome update? And about what you guys are arguing about, i think you just need to stop arguing and get on with your live.

Cant we all just be friends?

  • 03.24.2007 12:57 PM PDT

HHDDVVDDBVD 692 others

OK, yes, it is very true that I'm a dumb ass. I'm not denying that. However, isn't the whole point of a beta to increase the amount of users until you get someone dumb enough to try something you haven't anticipated.
Johnrap - Unofficial Dumbass of Halo 3 Beta

Alright you convinced me Frankie, I will buy the legendary edition.

  • 03.24.2007 1:05 PM PDT
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Is the guy above me actualy the franky that gives us the awsome update?
He is indeed, the "Content Monkey" user title and alarmingly bright coloured text gave him away!

As much as I've enjoyed the W-Water-U, I could cope with it being replaced by a WSSAGWU (Weekly Soft Surfaces And General Weathering Update). :)

  • 03.24.2007 1:15 PM PDT

Frank O'Connor is a 12-year veteran of the videogame magazine industry and has therefore never worked an honest day in his life.

Posted by: Frankie
Posted by: The Kodemyster
...I happen to know that a Banshee is going to drop off four Grunts and a Brute Chieftain.
That makes perfect sense.


Thanks for the catch. Fixed: Phantom, obviously.

SURE. Realizes we discovered new feature.

  • 03.24.2007 2:00 PM PDT

Posted by: xI JANITOR Ix
You know what's sad - Spending a whole update talking about the color of the sky due to the dust particles: "Across the huge artifact that the Chief discovers in that trailer, you see the air start to haze over, as tiny distant particles change the color, quality and transparency of the air." - Guess what - no one cares about stupid dust particles.


Wrong. I care about those stupid dust particles and something tells me I'm not the only one.


Let me premise what I'm about to say by stating that Halo 2 was beautiful graphically, but I didn't play campaign or play multiplayer so i could stop and enjoy a seagull on a ledge 40 feet up. Any idiot doing that deserves to be sniped by the covenant.

Well I'm sorry that you won't be enjoying Halo 3 as much as I'm going to.


The problem with you guys is you think it's all about how cool a game looks. I'll take crap graphics and amazing game play over brilliant graphics and game play catered to the masses so that you can sell your quota of games for Microsoft.

I'd rather play a game with amazing graphics AND incredible gameplay. What makes you think that Halo 3 won't have both? As long as they take their time and release it when it's actually complete, there is no reason for Halo 3 to be lacking in any way, shape, or form. Sure, if they decide that they are going to release it tomorrow and do a half ass job on it, then I'd rather they spend their time on gameplay over graphics, but there's going to be nothing half ass about this game. It's going to be pure bad ass, lol. This game will appeal to both pro gamers and casual gamers. You are assuming that there has to be a trade off, that the game can't be both beautiful and deep, but quite frankly that is an incorrect assumption. Just wait, Bungie will impress everyone, including you.

  • 03.24.2007 2:11 PM PDT
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"Inside every cynical person is a disappointed idealist."
George Carlin

Posted by: Frankie
Posted by: The Kodemyster
...I happen to know that a Banshee is going to drop off four Grunts and a Brute Chieftain.
That makes perfect sense.


Thanks for the catch. Fixed: Phantom, obviously.

Oh! *long sigh* I was under the impression you never made mistakes, so I thought it was a hint for giant Banshees in Halo 3 or something.

But yeah, I guess we aren't all always right. =P

  • 03.24.2007 2:28 PM PDT
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Cant we all just get along and stop arguing about something pointless. All it dose is make this thread less fun and more irritating.
So why sont you guys stop arguing and talk about what you liked in the update and not about what you disliked.

  • 03.24.2007 2:29 PM PDT
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If cats land on their feet and toast lands butter-side-down, what happens if you strap a piece of toast to the back of a cat and drop it?

Frankie, I also am addicted to water in games. From Mario 64 (solid blue) to Obi Wan for the original xbox (comletely clear water, with those goofy ripples) and now to Halo 3. When Halo 2 came out I remember forums asking whether we would play campaign first or multiplayer first. I just want to find a waterfall, stand under it, and watch the water drip off my Mjolinir armor. Then sell the screenshot to Playgirl. Wait, scratch the last part.

Yeah, good update overall. It's cool to find out how much hard work goes into making H3. It's that attention to detail (in my opinion) that has given the past two Halo games such long-lasting appeal. Can't wait to find out some more details next week.

  • 03.24.2007 3:07 PM PDT
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i like birds

  • 03.24.2007 4:10 PM PDT
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wow. This update seems pretty good i guess. WHen is the beta coming out?

  • 03.24.2007 5:20 PM PDT

brute is already on the list...im think Arbitor fighting with the marines....

  • 03.24.2007 5:32 PM PDT

Just show us some screenshots and videos of the water features already! I'm getting horny on water here!

  • 03.24.2007 6:00 PM PDT
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Posted by: Frankie
5. Three-shotting a player in the head from anywhere on a map, the second they spawn, requires very little skill and wrecks balance. Fun as it is.

Thank you. That also pretty much proves that the "new version of an old favorite" isn't the H1 pistol, even though I knew that - because, as another member mentioned, weapons can't be damaged/destroyed.

Posted by: Anton P Nym
-- Steve will remind folks that there are real limits on what can he discussed in the Updates... for instance, plot spoilers won't go in, and neither will balance issues that are probably still being adjusted. Hence the concentration on art stuff that can't ruin surprises and won't change dramatically before release.

Thank you. Despite the update being around for so long, some people still don't get it. Also, release dates and announcements aren't in Weekly Updates - they're normally placed in a different Top Story.

Posted by: Th3 BlAcK D3a7h
im not even gonna check the weekly updates anymore. its just one useless update after the other.

Awesome. That means one less hater posting in the forums about it.

Oh, and when someone said to JANITOR, "please don't even attempt to speak for the entire Halo fanbase," he was referring to this:
Posted by: xI JANITOR Ix
Guess what - no one cares about stupid dust particles. The only things people were looking for in the trailer were new weapons/enemies/guns - and the slight chance that you guys might make a semi-smart choice of showing an H1 pistol strapped somewhere to MC's waist.

I love hearing about things like that. New weapons/enemies/guns aren't introduced in Weekly Updates. And despite your opinion, not everyone loves the H1 pistol. I wouldn't play multiplayer at all if the H1 pistol appeared in the game. In fact, I might not even buy the game if that happens.

Posted by: xI JANITOR Ix
And Seagulls??!!! Are you kidding me?? ... Let me premise what I'm about to say by stating that Halo 2 was beautiful graphically, but I didn't play campaign or play multiplayer so i could stop and enjoy a seagull on a ledge 40 feet up. Any idiot doing that deserves to be sniped by the covenant. The problem with you guys is you think it's all about how cool a game looks.

I guess I deserve to be sniped by the Covenant, then. I think that the seagulls is awesome. Plus, almost everyone eventually starts messing around in Campaign, whether it's killing their co-op teammate, jumping off the cliff, or anything else. Remember the birds in Halo 2 campaign? I tried to shoot those more than once (a few times on accident, thinking they were enemies). You know how awesome it would be if they dropped when they were shot? So the seagulls would be amazing, and it would cater to the short attention span of gamers.
How cool a game looks is a major part of the game.

Posted by: xI JANITOR Ix
I'll take crap graphics and amazing game play over brilliant graphics and game play catered to the masses so that you can sell your quota of games for Microsoft.

If you want crap graphics and amazing gameplay, buy a Wii.

Sorry for the Janitor quotes, but I feel that they all pertain to the contents of the updates. I love how he used the phrase "bungied it up," though, as if that's a common term (plus, I feel that the changes he mentioned weren't mistakes, but necessary).

Also, why do people jump to conclusions and think that just because Bungie didn't cater to their individual desires for the game, that all they care about is money, and don't care about their fans? Bungie has so many people with so many contrasting desires that they can't make everyone happy, but that doesn't mean that they're greedy and don't care about the content of their game. And all the decisions I've seen Bungie make have been great.

And that was an awesome update. The sky was interesting, and the birds just made me happy. I'm also happy that even the distant objects have real geometry. I was driving up a hill with a Ghost in Halo 2's campaign, and all the foliage was completely flat (though the mountains and water were actually there).

Was this post long? It seems like it.

  • 03.24.2007 6:24 PM PDT
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Halo 3 just sounds too good to be true.

I CANNOT wait until I get to play around with all of the crazy things stuffed in the game, especially trying to shoot down aircraft along with a few birds. The water effects are getting better all the while. Good stuff.

  • 03.24.2007 7:04 PM PDT

BETA BETA BETA. Well i think we should get an update on the beta we have all been expecting i know you guys are trying to wrap it up but i speak for everyone when i say tell us how its going. We are all gonna go insane. You guys should of never stopped giveing us updates on them it was what got me through the week man. Please give us some inklings or hints to the beta some insight. Your killin us here we've been waiting for the beta for soem time now id like to hear how its goign.

  • 03.24.2007 8:14 PM PDT