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Posted by: Anton P Nym
who says you have to be an ace to have fun?

Posted by: TUI_Obi_Wan
Stupid parents let their stupid children play games that are rated M when they should be playing Big Birds Spelling Adventures

Posted by: Kira Onime
Also the AR is actually good in CQB now and no longer a glorified baseball bat.

Why is it that people come here and think that to "fit in" to The Maw community, they have to be -blam!-s to everyone and flame everyone?

You don't have to flame people to "fit in". Matter of fact, flaming is not cool.

Leave the flaming to Master(Mister) Kim and Obi Wan.

I am asking the two things of the mods:

1. Please leave this thread here, as it relates to the Maw.

2. Please start banning the people who flame others.

Thanks

/me steps off soapbox

[Edited on 03.26.2007 7:49 PM PDT]

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Why the hell are you spamming?
This forum is to talk about Halo/2 pc games, not to complain about the forum.

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Posted by: Aj6627
Why is it that people come here and think that to "fit in" to The Maw community, they have to be -blam!-s to everyone and flame everyone?

You don't have to flame people to "fit in". Matter of fact, flaming is not cool.

Leave the flaming to Master(Mister) Kim and Obi Wan.

I am asking the two things of the mods:

1. Please leave this thread here, as it relates to the Maw.

2. Please start banning the people who flame others.

Thanks

/me steps off soapbox


1. People never said they flame to be cool
2. flamming is bannable to anybody at the first
3. I think that we should try to be a bit nicer to people (and I'm going to be to).
4. No more complaing about small little speeling errors only the ones that look LiKe ThIs because the people typing are thinking they are 1337 haxzor pplz.

Posted by: brianv
Why the hell are you spamming?
This forum is to talk about Halo/2 pc games, not to complain about the forum.


He is expressing his opion about the community, and I hope people listin.

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Posted by: Anton P Nym
who says you have to be an ace to have fun?

Posted by: TUI_Obi_Wan
Stupid parents let their stupid children play games that are rated M when they should be playing Big Birds Spelling Adventures

Posted by: Kira Onime
Also the AR is actually good in CQB now and no longer a glorified baseball bat.

Posted by: brianv
Why the hell are you spamming?
This forum is to talk about Halo/2 pc games, not to complain about the forum.


I'm trying to make an effort to make the community more welcome to new people. Especially since we will get a lot of new people near the release date of H2V.

This place used to be nice. Now most people who come in start flaming because they see everyone else doing it.

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Posted by: Aj6627
Posted by: brianv
Why the hell are you spamming?
This forum is to talk about Halo/2 pc games, not to complain about the forum.


I'm trying to make an effort to make the community more welcome to new people. Especially since we will get a lot of new people near the release date of H2V.

This place used to be nice. Now most people who come in start flaming because they see everyone else doing it.


I am going with Aj6627 on this, and some people don't flame because of others, it's because they deem it right to.

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Still don't have anything to do with Halo. Just a heads up, this will get locked, just put the word "Halo" in your first post. But it's true I guess, people have gotten evil >:D

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Posted by: brianv
Still don't have anything to do with Halo. Just a heads up, this will get locked, just put the word "Halo" in your first post. But it's true I guess, people have gotten evil >:D


In a way it realates to halo simple look
--->this thread to communitty---->the community----->halo.

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AJ's !00% right. It has gotten pretty rediculous in here. I direct your attention to http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=4553909, this is how it needs to be in here.

The MAW was known for its maturity and helpfulness. When someone asked a question that was covered in the stickies, the answer was given and a link to the stickies was included. They weren't jumped on and flamed with smart ass answers like "Google is your friend" or READ THE -blam!- STICKIES!!! Spelling and grammer are important because it makes posts easier to read and understand. Correct spelling and grammer do not automatically equal maturity because the people that flame and correct every little spelling error are not displaying maturity. Yes if the message cannot be understood or its meaning is unclear then go ahead and make a comment and ask them to fix it. It they spelled one word wrong and you can follow what they are saying then get over it.


In just over a month we are going to be flooded with new members. If the majority of the current members set an example of immaturity then there efforts will be multiplied and this place will become like the Halo3 forums.

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AJ's !00% right. It has gotten pretty rediculous in here. I direct your attention to http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=4553909, this is how it needs to be in here.

The MAW was known for its maturity and helpfulness. When someone asked a question that was covered in the stickies, the answer was given and a link to the stickies was included. They weren't jumped on and flamed with smart ass answers like "Google is your friend" or READ THE -blam!- STICKIES!!! Spelling and grammer are important because it makes posts easier to read and understand. Correct spelling and grammer do not automatically equal maturity because the people that flame and correct every little spelling error are not displaying maturity. Yes if the message cannot be understood or its meaning is unclear then go ahead and make a comment and ask them to fix it. It they spelled one word wrong and you can follow what they are saying then get over it.

So is anyone else gonna help spread maturity

Btw igg did you get the msg I sent you about maw gatherings?
In just over a month we are going to be flooded with new members. If the majority of the current members set an example of immaturity then there efforts will be multiplied and this place will become like the Halo3 forums.

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spartennum117, you have over 50 posts in here today. You need to find another hobby besides posting in here. Turn the computer off and pick up a book or something.

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Posted by: Iggwilv
spartennum117, you have over 50 posts in here today. You need to find another hobby besides posting in here. Turn the computer off and pick up a book or something.


Actually I've posted here because I am grounded and evreything but the pc is in my room as it's a pain in the ass to get out my dad says, and plus my car is gone so this is what I'm doing (I have to sneak).

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I 100% agree. A lot of the regulars here are spreading some sort of influence which is causing them to be nasty towards new comers. They seek help and all they can do is flame them? Pathetic. And yet, people wonder why this forum wasn't as active as it used to be? Idiots.

The flamers have a better reasoned to get flamed, not the people that seek help which is what the forum is for.

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yehh i dont flame unless im flamed on....and i noe all of u guys think im an a$$...or im ignorant cause the way i type i guess.....ive been postin here since before i had halo pc....juss made another name....buh yea....ill juss say sry to all the people for acting like an a$$ cause by me arguing back makes me juss as imature as the person flaming me....i juss get bored i guess iono...either way sry.....accept my apology or dont....its up 2 u...

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I agree in the fact that flaming doesn't help, and is detrimental to an internet forum. That said, there isn't much that can be done. People who flame are going to do so no matter what. You just have to deal with it from a POV that doesn't give them the satisfaction of flaming. Everyday I see people ask stupid questions, and like a broken record, get told off. I feel like I'm having deja-vu everyday reading some of these threads.

Lets look at some of the definitions of flaming, from the most accurate (and funny as hell, i.e -"donut puncher" lmao) source of information on the internet: UrbanDictionary.com

Posted by: Meri

-Flame
To insult a person you are arguing with over the internet in hopes of reviving your argument.
Example:
You are an idiot for thinking this.

Meri brings up a good point. Flaming is essentially a form of insult. While many people disguise flaming through the use of clever word choice, and euphamistic Wellsonian "double speaking," in reality they are insulting the person, either outwordly or on an intellectual level (which makes the flamee look even worse when they respond kindly to it).

Posted by: w4x0r

-Flame
To insult someone electronically, or otherwise. Sometimes to be a group insult.
Example:
The l4m3 k1dd13 finds himself flamed.
UserA:hay ne1 gots sum wareZ ?!@#!@# I wanna h4x0r my momz yahoo account!!
UserB: You're a tard... seriously. Do yourself a favour and get out of the gene pool.


Flaming is just a natural part of posting on an internet forum, no matter what. Yes it's bad, but what can be done about it? In real life, some people are just dicks, but you have to deal with it. Don't let it get to you, and don't argue back. Respond to flamers in a mature and intelligent way. Hell, I'll probably be flamed for posting this. But here's an idea: so what?

Anyway, BACK TO CALCULUS!

Cheers.





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Yeah, I'm an ass. I admit it, and I have no shame about it. If I don't like you, or I think you're stupid, I'll say so. While I'm sure some of you will inevitably come up with the theory that "I'm a lonely old man with no friends who gets his kicks insulting others." While it is an interesting, if unoriginal assumption, it is is untrue. The truth about why I flame and be a jerk to people is this: I've woken up, and I've seen the corruption, and evil that goes on in the world on a daily basis. It's soured me on the human race. So why should I be nice to someone who would stab me in the back at the first chance they got? Yes, I'm surly, and I'm jaded, and I just plain don't like people. But I do have my reasons. Flaming others doesn't amuse me, although there is the odd time, it's just part of my personality. So if you don't like it, well no offense to you, but I really couldn't give a rats ass one way or another.

Thank you and have a rotten day.

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Yeah, I'm an ass. I admit it, and I have no shame about it. If I don't like you, or I think you're stupid, I'll say so. While I'm sure some of you will inevitably come up with the theory that "I'm a lonely old man with no friends who gets his kicks insulting others." While it is an interesting, if unoriginal assumption, it is is untrue. The truth about why I flame and be a jerk to people is this: I've woken up, and I've seen the corruption, and evil that goes on in the world on a daily basis. It's soured me on the human race. So why should I be nice to someone who would stab me in the back at the first chance they got? Yes, I'm surly, and I'm jaded, and I just plain don't like people. But I do have my reasons. Flaming others doesn't amuse me, although there is the odd time, it's just part of my personality. So if you don't like it, well no offense to you, but I really couldn't give a rats ass one way or another.

Thank you and have a rotten day.


Actually it's the media that's corrupted you. You watch too much TV... There is good in the world, you just have to open your eyes and see.

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Well thank you for that hopelessly optimistic comment. I rarely watch the idiot box, but the media has contributed to my current veiw of the world. I still stand by my opinion and my beliefs.

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Posted by: TUI_Obi_Wan
Yeah, I'm an ass. I admit it, and I have no shame about it. If I don't like you, or I think you're stupid, I'll say so. While I'm sure some of you will inevitably come up with the theory that "I'm a lonely old man with no friends who gets his kicks insulting others." While it is an interesting, if unoriginal assumption, it is is untrue. The truth about why I flame and be a jerk to people is this: I've woken up, and I've seen the corruption, and evil that goes on in the world on a daily basis. It's soured me on the human race. So why should I be nice to someone who would stab me in the back at the first chance they got? Yes, I'm surly, and I'm jaded, and I just plain don't like people. But I do have my reasons. Flaming others doesn't amuse me, although there is the odd time, it's just part of my personality. So if you don't like it, well no offense to you, but I really couldn't give a rats ass one way or another.

Thank you and have a rotten day.


*Starts Clapping* QFGDMFT Dude, A--blam!--Men

If that wasn't so long I would sig that.

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Posted by: TUI_Obi_Wan
Yeah, I'm an ass. I admit it, and I have no shame about it. If I don't like you, or I think you're stupid, I'll say so. While I'm sure some of you will inevitably come up with the theory that "I'm a lonely old man with no friends who gets his kicks insulting others." While it is an interesting, if unoriginal assumption, it is is untrue. The truth about why I flame and be a jerk to people is this: I've woken up, and I've seen the corruption, and evil that goes on in the world on a daily basis. It's soured me on the human race. So why should I be nice to someone who would stab me in the back at the first chance they got? Yes, I'm surly, and I'm jaded, and I just plain don't like people. But I do have my reasons. Flaming others doesn't amuse me, although there is the odd time, it's just part of my personality. So if you don't like it, well no offense to you, but I really couldn't give a rats ass one way or another.

Thank you and have a rotten day.

The people of the human race aren't sower, its the political powers of this world who have gone into contempt. The government of the united states, though not acknowledged now, is based around control and soon to be a police state. I'm not going to spell out three pages of reasons why (though I sertanly could) just watch the video on my sig.

Now then, on topic. Yes the MAW has become a place filled with mean spirited people. The elitists are everywhere on the MAW. But heres how I look at it. The most elitist people on the MAW, are sadly the most intelligent of us all. This is the problem, the MAW lives on the intelligent, it's the one thing that we have that most other forums don't. And we hail, and role model the intelligent ones. But when the intelligent ones are elitist basterds, and everyone is role modeling them, we have a problem. Here's the thing, people have to start being independent of our great leaders. Kim, Nessy, Obi_Wan, though I respect all of you, your the biggest asses I've ever met. Be independent of them people, they would probably want that, everyone here can be an ass, that doesn't mean we should. Hell, I'm probably better at insulting people than Kim (probably not Obi-Wan though), but I only use my ability to insult people when it's need it. Someone makes a stupid thread or question, tell them that they did something stupid, then help them out. If they do it again, start to get a little forceful. If they do it a third time, they clearly are an idiot, and that is the point where you have the right to insult them from my point of view. Remember people, we were all noobs once. Hell, I used to have such a bad reputation I actually made a new profile to get the MAW off my back. So come on people, loosen up a bit and "go with the flow"

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*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

Posted by: TUI_Obi_Wan
Yeah, I'm an ass. I admit it, and I have no shame about it. If I don't like you, or I think you're stupid, I'll say so. While I'm sure some of you will inevitably come up with the theory that "I'm a lonely old man with no friends who gets his kicks insulting others." While it is an interesting, if unoriginal assumption, it is is untrue. The truth about why I flame and be a jerk to people is this: I've woken up, and I've seen the corruption, and evil that goes on in the world on a daily basis. It's soured me on the human race. So why should I be nice to someone who would stab me in the back at the first chance they got? Yes, I'm surly, and I'm jaded, and I just plain don't like people. But I do have my reasons. Flaming others doesn't amuse me, although there is the odd time, it's just part of my personality. So if you don't like it, well no offense to you, but I really couldn't give a rats ass one way or another.

Thank you and have a rotten day.


get over yourself, flaming someone is helping NO ONE, you arent helping them with their problem and you are certainly NOT helping yourself. Go ahead and put yourself in a bad mood and you will never see the good that people have.

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Sometimes static that is easier said than done, some people are so stubborn that I would rather not bother messing with them. However, I always find myself going out of my way to still try and help them.

LOL...

Perhaps I'm more stubborn than they themselves.

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get over yourself, flaming someone is helping NO ONE, you arent helping them with their problem and you are certainly NOT helping yourself. Go ahead and put yourself in a bad mood and you will never see the good that people have.


Well said. It drives home one of the points I was making. When new people come into these forums and get jumped on immediately two things are going to happen. If they are mature, intelligent people they will move on to find a more hospitable place to discuss Halo. If they are immature jerks they will stay and feed off the negative energy of the place. Net result will be a forum full of -blam!-s.

The telling thing is most of the people that do the flaming do not do it in real life. The Internet gives people a sense of anononimity(don't even think about it) and a feeling that they get away with being a dick. In real life they would get their ass beat, so they wouldn't dare hazard act like that.

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By TUI_Obi_Wan: The truth about why I flame and be a jerk to people is this: I've woken up, and I've seen the corruption, and evil that goes on in the world on a daily basis. It's soured me on the human race. So why should I be nice to someone who would stab me in the back at the first chance they got? Yes, I'm surly, and I'm jaded, and I just plain don't like people. But I do have my reasons.

Then, instead of flaming people, like you do, why don't you actually do something productive, and help fix the "corruption and evil"?

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