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the ONE MAIN REASON why i LIKE halo 1 BETTER than halo 2 is that i did not like playing as a elite i missed the cheif during those levels......................................... whats your reasons

  • 03.27.2007 3:24 AM PDT
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Halo 2 is completely retarded. They made the game entirely too easy to play. The insane auto-aim, lunging melees, the sword. These are all examples of things that make halo better than halo 2. Theres only one thing i like better than halo ce and thats the physics in halo 2 its a whole lot more comfortable to move around. oh and the online play over xbox live.

  • 03.27.2007 4:54 PM PDT

what i missed the most was the pistol. and before u say that i am a sissy for wanting the pistol back, i wasnt the best with the pistol. it was just the feel of a pistol that could whoop those grunts in one shot. but i agree with ya on the sword thing, its too much a noobish weapon now adays. but what i realy missed was that u got like 8 min to complete the rest of the level cause if u didnt, u go bye-bye. . .

  • 03.27.2007 5:58 PM PDT
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Posted by: XI KOLKEN IX
Halo 2 is completely retarded. They made the game entirely too easy to play. The insane auto-aim, lunging melees, the sword. These are all examples of things that make halo better than halo 2. Theres only one thing i like better than halo ce and thats the physics in halo 2 its a whole lot more comfortable to move around. oh and the online play over xbox live.


In your opinion.

  • 03.27.2007 8:16 PM PDT

'Κύριε Ἰησοῦ Χριστέ, Υἱὲ τοῦ Θεοῦ, ἐλέησόν με τὸν ἁμαρτωλόν.'

I miss the pistol and aussalt rifle.This is a thing I like on Halo 2 better because Cortana is HOTTER!!!

  • 04.01.2007 10:06 PM PDT
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HALO ce is a fun game aswell as a challenge...HALO 2 is a tactical and strategic game with over the top humour.

The only reasons I still play HALO 2 is for the way the elites fall down when you shoot them whilst they are strafing and the separate trigger duel wield capability.

  • 04.03.2007 9:10 PM PDT
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Posted by: Captain Richards
I miss the pistol and aussalt rifle.This is a thing I like on Halo 2 better because Cortana is HOTTER!!!


So you're into Artificial Intelligences in video games, then?

  • 04.04.2007 3:20 AM PDT
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I missed the asualt rifle!!! oh and...no never...wait! the H1pistol.

  • 04.04.2007 6:34 AM PDT
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There were more hunters and I enjoyed killing the sleeping grunts. I also like Halo CE better.

  • 04.04.2007 6:55 PM PDT
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Here are my list of reasons why Halo CE owns Halo 2:
1. Halo CE has no homing punches/lunges or hitboxes. This creates a completely consistent and accurate punch that does not leave any space for wondering if it will hit or not.
2. Halo CE does not have huge autoaim/bullet magnetism. This is a major problem in Halo 2 because it makes it to easy to get headshots and even noobs can play fairly well. This high level of aim assist makes sniper too easy and sometimes bullets that don't even hit the head are counted as head shots. I've even shot a rock on Burial Mounds and the sniper bullet went through the rock and hit the enemey behind it. The whole aiming system of Halo 2 needs to be changed back to Halo CE's aiming levels. The level between a noob and a pro is not nearly as drastic as it is in Halo CE.
3. There are really no bad glitches that can really be exploited in Halo CE. There is a doulbe-melee glitch (which I think was amazing and felt like it should be in the game), but there was no BXR or Double-shotting glitches, and especially no superjumps.
4. Grenades were better and more powerful/useful in Halo CE. Halo 2 has dinky grenades that sometimes don't even work right before you die. I've stuck someone as I died and nothing happens to them. Secondly, you can't throw grenades very far at all in Halo 2 and the timing on the frags and plasmas are not good in Halo 2. Frags should have to settle before they blow and plasma should not have the same blast timing as frags.
5. Weapons were more powerful in Halo CE. The Plasma Rifle actually worked well by slowing enemies in Halo CE. The pistol was a three shot kill (3SK) in Halo CE and was more accurate than the BR.
6. The Plasma Pistol is such a noob weapon in Halo 2. The overcharge homes on enemies and is almost inescapable, add a BR to that mix and you are too good. Even a noob can own with the PP/BR combo (noob combo).
7. The health in Halo 2. I do not like how you can bring someone down to 1 hit from anything and then they crouch behind something for 3 seconds and are then suddenly full health again. It's like your previous shots were pointless. I believe they should bring back the original health system with a shield and then health tanks.
8. The competition was fierce in Halo CE because of the accuracy and skill needed to use the pistol. The pistol was much more reliable than the BR. I've had to put an entire clip of BR into someone in order to kill them because of the stupid burst fire. Bring back the single shot PLZ.
9. The levels were better in Halo CE. They were more enjoyable and fun for Slayer and CTF matches. Levels like Hang'Em High, Chill Out, Damnation, and Prisoner were all well designed and a ton of fun.
10. You run too slow in Halo 2. Halo CE got the run speed right and the jumping height right too. Halo 2 you jump higher but not farther, and you run slower. Not as enjoyable and slows down the pace of the game in general.
11. Weapon deficiencies of Halo 2 ruin the game. The SMG and Plasma Rifle separately are horrible. The shotgun is AWFUL and is completely ineffective. The rockets have a delayed shooting sequence so you have to lead more than you should.
12. Homing rockets in Halo 2. This takes out the skill from shooting Warthogs on Blood Gulch because all you have to do in H2 is lock on and the rocket does all the work for you. Where is the skill in that?
13. Dual wielding is dumb. It's inefficient and should not be in the game. I believe Halo CE got it right be not even allowing dual wield. This made for a more skill based game and grenade placement was vital to your survival and killing of other players.
14. The crosshair placement and Field of View in Halo 2 is bad. The crosshair is actually angled down and to the left of your gun barrel in Halo 2. The Field of View is very reduced making it feel like you have tunnel vision. This is much less enjoyable and should be changed back to the way it was in Halo CE.
15. There is no fall damage in Halo 2. Fall damage in Halo CE gave another skill element that is missing in H2. Fall damage made you think about your escape maneuvers and added an element of strategy to Halo CE. You also could crouch at exactly the right time to prevent most of the damage from the fall. This was brilliant and added an extra skill to the game and your falls.

I know this is a long list of complaints, but there they are real problems with Halo 2 that I evaluated and replied to. Thanks for reading!

  • 04.04.2007 8:23 PM PDT
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HAlo = Good Game
Halo 2 = Fun At Times but you need xbox live
Halo 3 = Best Game In The World

  • 04.04.2007 8:35 PM PDT
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Posted by: XI KOLKEN IX
Halo 2 is completely retarded. They made the game entirely too easy to play. The insane auto-aim, lunging melees, the sword. These are all examples of things that make halo better than halo 2. Theres only one thing i like better than halo ce and thats the physics in halo 2 its a whole lot more comfortable to move around. oh and the online play over xbox live.


I wouldn't say that.. Its a great game if your gonna play Xbox Live. And if you say its easy, play Heroic and Legendary! Its as hard as anything I've ever played! I only beat the last level [i][The Great Journey/i], barley. And I have to agree on the auto-aim melle thing, its a pain. Again, the mutli-player is great, the Campain can be better and the physics are better.

--The Voyager

[Edited on 04.06.2007 7:06 AM PDT]

  • 04.06.2007 7:05 AM PDT

They mostly come out at night... mostly...

In response to KOKLEN, I thought I'd read your big list and be annoyed by all the things you listed. But instead I think I agree with everything or almost everything you said. But Halo2 is still a lot of fun, just different.

As for something I really liked in Halo1... I think the maps in Halo1 were better. Graphically they didn't blow your mind away, but the design and layout of all the maps were awesome.

When I hear people mention fall damage, it really seems insignificant. But the fact is that it really did add a huge amount of intensity to the game because you had to be more careful about where you went. And many of the multiplayer maps took advantage of this element by having very high places you could fall off of. (Fall Damage = no more super jumping)

Some maps that come to mind: Hang'em High, Boarding Action, Damnation, Prisoner, and even Chillout and Battlecreek made you be careful about jumping off of ledges. Those types of maps were fun because you had to, not only pay attention to what was in front of you and behind, but also to what was above and below you. Even levels like Derelict and Longest, at any point on the map, someone could be right above you or below you depending on where you are.

If you notice in Halo2, Bungie tried to start making all these realistic environments with water and trees and what not, and in the process ended up making levels too flat and spread out. With the exception of Lockout and maybe midship, the vertical stacking of levels on most of the maps is not there.

I think I may be over analyzing things just a bit. I still enjoy playing many of the levels in Halo2. Like I said, it was more of a random thought.

  • 04.06.2007 10:58 AM PDT
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H1>H2 enough said

  • 04.06.2007 12:44 PM PDT

Made an account in 2006. Visited Bungie.net in 2005. Joined Xbox Live in 2005. It's amazing to see how the site, Bungie, and Halo have evolved over the years. Utterly amazing.

To me~Halo2 has bad game play.

  • 04.07.2007 6:34 AM PDT
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I enjoy both, each offers something different. I only play campaign (legendary only, both games), no live connection here and no one to play multiplayer with. Halo ROCKS for the personal level of the combat. It is 95% close quarters combat. There is much more satisfaction in killing covie up close and personal. For all of those who lament the Library, it is one of the best constant battles in gaming. The flood come in waves, and you have to be a bit tactical in how to defeat them, and use the carriers to your advantage. For all out bloodletting, it rules. Having said that, Halo 2 offers the player alot of different ways to approach each battle. Outskirts and Delta Halo for example can be run many different ways, from ground level slogging it out, to high ground picking them off. The choice of vehicles during many levels also adds variety. Halo is an outstanding game, and I have never gone away from it for more than a month or so. When I want a break from H2 or Doom III I come back to Halo. Once I have played it through again, off to H2 again.

The added bonus of the skulls makes H2 a fun play. The first time I had a combo of Sputnik and Grunt BDP, and got a grunt in the head, I damn near fell off my bed laughing from laughing so hard. Yes the skulls screw with the physics, but they enhance the game overall. Deaths of the chief, flying thru the air for half a mile, well even those are a riot!

For the Halo fan, its all about the battles, the scenery and the story line.
For the Halo 2 fan, its about online play (from what I read anyway), the ability to play the arbiter (lame as those levels can be at times) and the strategy you have to use for the distance battles (weapon selection and chosing your targets by priority) and VARIETY.

Personally, I thank Bungie for both, as they have given me alot of enjoyment over the years and haven't gotten stale. I do not have a 360, and I am not sure if I will bother. We will see what the game offers first, then decide.

As for those of you who live to find things to complain about re: either game, remember please, they are entertainment, ENJOY THEM, glitches, bad spots and all. Otherwise, invest millions in technology, people and facility, and start your own perfect game company, either that, or let Bungie do their work in peace.......

Later

  • 04.07.2007 9:07 AM PDT

Don't feed the monkey!!!!

I agree with Lurker 77 100%

[Edited on 04.08.2007 5:16 PM PDT]

  • 04.08.2007 5:14 PM PDT
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im with that guy^^^

  • 04.09.2007 12:08 PM PDT
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lurker knows it, and to clarify

Halo CE = a very good game
Halo 2 = very poor in comparison
Halo 3= no idea what to expect, this is from a company that made halo...but they also made halo 2- hopefully they realised what went horribly wrong in H2 and iron it out for 3..

  • 04.09.2007 1:10 PM PDT
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Thanks for reading my complaints of Halo 2 guys I appreciate it!

  • 04.09.2007 8:39 PM PDT

I'm getting really -blam!- tired of threads like this. They both have their cons and pros. You can't compare them. It's like comparing Doom 3 with Wolfenstein 3D. Here's another of saying this, HCE=H2. Oh yeah, you better put on your flame suits. Becuase this thread is gonna turn into a flame war.

[Edited on 04.10.2007 11:26 AM PDT]

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halo 1 is a better game because the guns were balanced, graphics, story, characters and timing, halo came along at the right time the same could be said for Doom 1. Halo 1 came along with the right look, graphics technology and no one will ever be able to re-create halo 1

  • 04.10.2007 2:28 PM PDT

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Posted by: XI KOLKEN IX
Halo 2 is completely retarded. They made the game entirely too easy to play. The insane auto-aim, lunging melees, the sword. These are all examples of things that make halo better than halo 2. Theres only one thing i like better than halo ce and thats the physics in halo 2 its a whole lot more comfortable to move around. oh and the online play over xbox live.


In your opinion.


COS Maverick - you're obviously a noob - forums are for people to post their opinions - and as such - there's no need for everyone to follow up everything they post with "this is only my opinion." It's a given! It's obviously his opinion otherwise he wouldn't have posted it. Get a clue man and stop acting like every other member of these forums by wasting space by saying "that's only your opinion". Freaking waste of time.

[Edited on 04.12.2007 1:45 AM PDT]

  • 04.12.2007 1:44 AM PDT

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I'm getting really -blam!- tired of threads like this. They both have their cons and pros. You can't compare them. It's like comparing Doom 3 with Wolfenstein 3D. Here's another of saying this, HCE=H2. Oh yeah, you better put on your flame suits. Becuase this thread is gonna turn into a flame war.


If you're getting tired of posts like these - then stop reading them. It's going to happen. And you are 100% wrong in saying you can't compare H1 and H2 - doing so actually fullfiles the very definition of the word "comparison". They're from the same game studio and have similar elements and one is an extension of the other - which means they're built as a comparison to one another. H1 does not equal H2 noob - H1 is better. Get your facts straight and stop wasting time posting in threads you hate.

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Posted by: Lurker_77
Here are my list of reasons why Halo CE owns Halo 2:
1. Halo CE has no homing punches/lunges or hitboxes. This creates a completely consistent and accurate punch that does not leave any space for wondering if it will hit or not.
2. Halo CE does not have huge autoaim/bullet magnetism. This is a major problem in Halo 2 because it makes it to easy to get headshots and even noobs can play fairly well. This high level of aim assist makes sniper too easy and sometimes bullets that don't even hit the head are counted as head shots. I've even shot a rock on Burial Mounds and the sniper bullet went through the rock and hit the enemey behind it. The whole aiming system of Halo 2 needs to be changed back to Halo CE's aiming levels. The level between a noob and a pro is not nearly as drastic as it is in Halo CE.
3. There are really no bad glitches that can really be exploited in Halo CE. There is a doulbe-melee glitch (which I think was amazing and felt like it should be in the game), but there was no BXR or Double-shotting glitches, and especially no superjumps.
4. Grenades were better and more powerful/useful in Halo CE. Halo 2 has dinky grenades that sometimes don't even work right before you die. I've stuck someone as I died and nothing happens to them. Secondly, you can't throw grenades very far at all in Halo 2 and the timing on the frags and plasmas are not good in Halo 2. Frags should have to settle before they blow and plasma should not have the same blast timing as frags.
5. Weapons were more powerful in Halo CE. The Plasma Rifle actually worked well by slowing enemies in Halo CE. The pistol was a three shot kill (3SK) in Halo CE and was more accurate than the BR.
6. The Plasma Pistol is such a noob weapon in Halo 2. The overcharge homes on enemies and is almost inescapable, add a BR to that mix and you are too good. Even a noob can own with the PP/BR combo (noob combo).
7. The health in Halo 2. I do not like how you can bring someone down to 1 hit from anything and then they crouch behind something for 3 seconds and are then suddenly full health again. It's like your previous shots were pointless. I believe they should bring back the original health system with a shield and then health tanks.
8. The competition was fierce in Halo CE because of the accuracy and skill needed to use the pistol. The pistol was much more reliable than the BR. I've had to put an entire clip of BR into someone in order to kill them because of the stupid burst fire. Bring back the single shot PLZ.
9. The levels were better in Halo CE. They were more enjoyable and fun for Slayer and CTF matches. Levels like Hang'Em High, Chill Out, Damnation, and Prisoner were all well designed and a ton of fun.
10. You run too slow in Halo 2. Halo CE got the run speed right and the jumping height right too. Halo 2 you jump higher but not farther, and you run slower. Not as enjoyable and slows down the pace of the game in general.
11. Weapon deficiencies of Halo 2 ruin the game. The SMG and Plasma Rifle separately are horrible. The shotgun is AWFUL and is completely ineffective. The rockets have a delayed shooting sequence so you have to lead more than you should.
12. Homing rockets in Halo 2. This takes out the skill from shooting Warthogs on Blood Gulch because all you have to do in H2 is lock on and the rocket does all the work for you. Where is the skill in that?
13. Dual wielding is dumb. It's inefficient and should not be in the game. I believe Halo CE got it right be not even allowing dual wield. This made for a more skill based game and grenade placement was vital to your survival and killing of other players.
14. The crosshair placement and Field of View in Halo 2 is bad. The crosshair is actually angled down and to the left of your gun barrel in Halo 2. The Field of View is very reduced making it feel like you have tunnel vision. This is much less enjoyable and should be changed back to the way it was in Halo CE.
15. There is no fall damage in Halo 2. Fall damage in Halo CE gave another skill element that is missing in H2. Fall damage made you think about your escape maneuvers and added an element of strategy to Halo CE. You also could crouch at exactly the right time to prevent most of the damage from the fall. This was brilliant and added an extra skill to the game and your falls.

I know this is a long list of complaints, but there they are real problems with Halo 2 that I evaluated and replied to. Thanks for reading!


I concur with every reason. Those are all of the reasons I would have said as well. Each and every bullet on that list adds up to this awkward feel in Halo 2, it's always there yet very hard to put your finger on. Something just doesn't seem right with it. I know they are different games, but I truly hope Bungie takes a step forward, not backward, in trying to create Halo 3 more like Halo CE than Halo 2. I know a lot of people liked Halo 2, but most people do have a gripe or two about it, not something you see nearly as much with Halo CE.

  • 04.12.2007 7:04 PM PDT