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Subject: Why Mac OSX is a better OS than Vista for Halo 2. By ApolloSoldier
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Why is there a war about OS?
Security: Mac>Win
Games: Mac<Win
Why not get friggin both? If you really care about gaming then you'll spend easily over $2,000 in a year. Instead of buying a "Vista Compatible" uber-n00b pwning comp for $1,500 get the same thing for $1000? You save $500, now go buy a 360, PS3, or Wii. Arguing over OS's is the same thing as a Console War. Just stop.

  • 03.27.2007 7:56 PM PDT
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last i checked logitech does not have drivers for my G15 keyboard

thus making it worthless without macros and the LCD working

oh yeah im pretty sure my zune will not work with it to



damn it now im pissed

i have a 1.8 ghz, 512 ram laptop with vista basic on it and it runs perfectly. hardly any lag and with ready boost i can make it a little faster. its also WAY better than XP; as in alot more stable. the only problem i have is when i plug in my USB headset i have to select it as default, but that isnt hard. my G15 and printer is plug and play.

id say mac is for the lazy, ignorant, bastards. also i didnt really take any hits at OSX because i havent really tried it. so im not making a biased windows>apple thread. just trying to hit you with some knowledge

  • 03.27.2007 8:06 PM PDT
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Jesus Christ [Good God or Holy Halo] people, it's like we're having a "who can make the longest post" competition. If you ask me, lengthy posts lead one to believe some things are being, uh, compensated for. But seriously, discussing which is better, Mac's or PC's is always a subjectivity battle (as static noted). People see what they want to see, and believe what they want to believe about certain things. In this situation, proponents for either side of the equation are the ones who, undoubtedly, own that particular machine and are going to fight for it (figuratively of course [I hope]).

Cheers.

[Edited on 03.27.2007 8:11 PM PDT]

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STOP! JUST STOP WITH THE FLAMING! DAMN IT I'M GOING TO CURSE BECAUSE THE MODERATORS AREN'T HERE! WHERE THE HELL ARE THEY?! THIS HAS TO STOP!

*Now if you flame me for sounding like a baby I really don't know what the hell I'm going to do. But it won't be pretty for you.*

  • 03.27.2007 8:19 PM PDT

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Posted by: Iggwilv

*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

^^What are you really expecting with a post like that?

  • 03.27.2007 8:23 PM PDT
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For this thread to get closed and for flammers to get punished.

  • 03.27.2007 8:29 PM PDT

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Posted by: Iggwilv

*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

Because screaming at everyone including the mods and every other person(potentially) is really going to accomplish that.

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What? the mods are ignoring their job. this thread should've been closed immediately.

  • 03.27.2007 8:32 PM PDT

What it is.

Maybe they want the TC to learn his lesson, lol jk. But still, i wonder if he's learned his lesson.

  • 03.27.2007 8:37 PM PDT

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Jaws on Zanzibar?
Sniper 's Ed 101
my myspace
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After kim saying pc gamers are more mature:
Posted by:ImSpartacus
we r?

about the upgrades, you don' t need a larger disc unless you bought your pc like 10 years ago and have a 60GB Drive, which still might handle it unless you're a heavy loser.

video card? unless you need DX10 for Crysis, then I'd wait until the 8600 that are less expensive

RAM? 1GB is about $80 depending on your type

so I think it depends on how old your computer really is and how much you need or want.

I've never used a macs, i will never say they suck.

  • 03.27.2007 8:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: the9thdude
Why is there a war about OS?
Security: Mac>Win
That's not necessarily true. Macs aren't that secure.
Posted by: the9thdude
Games: Mac<Win
Why not get friggin both? If you really care about gaming then you'll spend easily over $2,000 in a year. Instead of buying a "Vista Compatible" uber-n00b pwning comp for $1,500 get the same thing for $1000? You save $500, now go buy a 360, PS3, or Wii. Arguing over OS's is the same thing as a Console War. Just stop.
What if we couldn't care less about a Mac when a PC can do more for gamers like us?

You're right though, arguing over operating systems is indeed similar to console wars. But for the ultimate platform war, PCs > everything. :D

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Posted by: Master Kim
Posted by: the9thdude
Why is there a war about OS?
Security: Mac>Win
That's not necessarily true. Macs aren't that secure.


Agreed, but with their built in software and Unix (the code that make C# look easy) makes it very hard to make bugs for Mac.

*Now this is a real discussion. Not pointless flaming.

[Edited on 03.27.2007 9:04 PM PDT]

  • 03.27.2007 9:04 PM PDT

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Posted by: Iggwilv

*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

It would be had any of that made any sense, I am sorry to say. C# is a programming language based on C++ which is inturn based on C and ultimately based on previous languages, they all had to start somewhere. Unix is an operating system, how are they related in terms of what you are talking about?

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Alright, I might have gotten my terms wrong so I'll say what I know.

Mac has a programming language that is much more difficult to hack than C-script. That is how it's security is better than PC, but not flawless.

  • 03.27.2007 9:25 PM PDT

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Posted by: Iggwilv

*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

Who tells you this stuff? You dont hack(crack) a programming language...

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I'm leaving it as:

Macs are not invincible to viruses, they just have less flaws as PC's.

  • 03.27.2007 9:41 PM PDT

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Posted by: Iggwilv

*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

Can you not come up with a counter-argument to mine? You wanted a discussion...

[Edited on 03.27.2007 9:43 PM PDT]

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Where I get my information is from actual working with Macs, my neighbor who works for various computer hardware companies, magazines, and hackers.

[Edited on 03.27.2007 9:48 PM PDT]

  • 03.27.2007 9:47 PM PDT

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Posted by: Iggwilv

*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

And with all this supposed experience you cannot differentiate between a programming language and an operating system? and even if a mac had a programming language(still makes no sense) how would that translate to more security? Your entire arguments needs a base and what you provide are a bunch of big words such as unix and c-script(what in the world is c-script anyways?). Did you watch the mac commercial and now think OSX is more secure because it has unix or do you actually understand why?

[Edited on 03.27.2007 9:56 PM PDT]

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Yes and the fact it is 12 am where I live. And, I just told you. Mac makes more sense but oh well, Microsoft's a -blam!-. I want to drop this, it almost seems pointless (maybe that's the tiredness...)

I like my PC, just not the crap-load of time I have to devote to keeping up-to-date and running good. When you get 8 Trojans a day from your brothers browsing the internet you'd be fed up with PC's too.

...So when will this forum be locked or moved?

[Edited on 03.27.2007 10:01 PM PDT]

  • 03.27.2007 9:56 PM PDT

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Posted by: Iggwilv

*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

And it's 1 am where I live. I am still waiting for a response to what I posed, I am trying not to be too condescending, I am sorry.

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Read the post before.

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Yes, I am a hypocrite, and I'm sorry. I really do mean well, but I'm not running on all cylinders.

Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

Posted by: ApolloSoldi3r
Alright guys, I'm glad you agree with my point of view on this topic.

I was listening until you said this. It's great that you have found OSX to be a superb gaming platform, but I haven't, so I don't fully agree. Don't presume anyone agrees. As great as OSX sounds, all the games I've invested in over the years work on DOS or Windows, so I have no interest in changing my tune. If I want a fancy and different UI, I boot into BLAG GNU/Linux.

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(I bypassed most of the bits about subjectivity and where I wouldn't know what I was talking about.)

Why not to get Vista
By Apple

Posted by: 1. No upgrade nightmares.
Before you can even think about Vista, you’ll likely need a new PC. Or upgrades for memory, hard disk, and graphics card. Why go through all that hassle, when you can just get a Mac? More

Posted by: staticx576
My PC is more than powerful enough to max vista and then some. I haven't upgraded in over 2 years, and even then I only upgrade to play games, something that OSX still lacks.

You're missing the point here. Apple's target audience (with respect to this advertising, at least) is not the hardcore PC user, as you and many others on this forum seem to claim and be. Not at all. Apple is not going to waste its time attempting to sell a product to those who do not want it. Apple is too smart for that. Apple is aiming for the PC user on the fence, the PC user deliberating whether to keep his PC, or switch to a Mac. Apple is aiming this marketing campaign towards the PC user who would like to use a Mac, but wants to retain most, if not all, of his Windows programs, games, and/or periphrials.
This is where the Bootcamp and duel OS boot bit comes in.

Upgrade capabilities? It all depends on which Mac you get. If you opt for the all-in-one Mac (like mine D:) your best bet is to wait for the warrenty to run out, then do the warrenty-voiding upgrades. Or you can shell out 4,000-odd dollars for the huge Mac tower that has modular components. And it's not OSX that is upgrade-unfriendly, it's the Apple mentality that you shouldn't be able to open up the case and swap stuff.

Posted by: 2. You can even run Windows.
The Mac gives you choices. With the latest software options, an Intel-powered Mac can easily run Vista or Windows XP applications. Not that you’ll want to... More

Posted by: staticx576
My PC can run windows too! irrelevant

And my Mac can run OSX. Astounding, innit?
Apple's point here is that Intel Macs can run both Windows/Vista and OSX, while PCs cannot run OSX. With all of the quite valid points in your posts, It's hard to believe that you did not pick up on that.

Posted by: 5. Know iTunes? You know Mac.
You’ll recognize features like the library collection, playlist arrangement, and instant search in many Mac applications. So you’re something of a Mac expert already. More

Posted by: staticx576
itunes sucks IMO, foobar2000 is so much better

And iTunes rox, in my opinion. Again, like you said above, it's all subjective.

Posted by: 7. You can take it with you.
Most popular applications for Mac and PC use the same file formats, making it simple to exchange documents with friends and coworkers or move existing files from a PC to a Mac.

Posted by: staticx576
good, in that case I can just stick to windows

Again, Apple is aiming for the PC user who would like to switch to a Mac (Not the PC user who is happy where he stands), but wants to keep all of his old Windows files.

Posted by: 5. Still the most advanced OS.
No other operating system, Vista included, offers the rich features and simplicity of Mac OS X. And just as Vista tries to get closer (emphasis on “tries”), Mac OS X Leopard is right around the corner — ready to leap even farther ahead. More

Posted by: staticx576
The best part about this is they offer no examples of whats better, again just marketing BS.

Apple is surmising (perhaps too much so) that the reader is aware of the various projected release dates for Vista and Leopard. Not only that, but all of the various features and pros and cons of each OS.

You are correct- Apple didn't list any features of Vista, or Leopard's comparable features. Most likely because Microsoft was keeping Vista under wraps, guarding their business secrets and OS features so no one would steal them, and Apple was busy doing the same. Ah, this wonderful, trusting capitalist business world we live in.

(Such secrecy is understandable, however, when you consider that Microsoft pulled the patent for the iPod clickwheel right out from under Apple's nose. Was such a move dirty and underhanded? Of course, but it's fair game in the business world. Apple was a fool not to patent such fancy technology first. Now Apple has to pay Microsoft to use their own component to make an iPod. It makes me giggle and cry at the same time.)

Posted by: 7. No hunting for drivers.
Just about everything works with Mac — even the stuff you used with your old PC. All you have to do is plug it in. A Mac has USB drivers for printers, external drives, digital cameras, input devices, iPod, and more. It can see Bluetooth cell phones and headsets, as well as FireWire cameras. No rebooting, no hassles. More

Posted by: staticx576
I dont hunt for drivers either on my windows machine...

I believe Apple is referring to physicially installing drivers. As in off the CD when you buy your periphrial and install the drivers. (My information is rather sketchy here, as I do not own a current PC that is in one piece. Must you install drivers with each periphrial you purchase?)

Posted by: 8. Design that turns heads.
You won’t want to hide your Mac in a corner of the den. You’ll want it front and center in your life. The Apple style shows in every detail, from its sculpted surfaces to its gorgeous Mac OS X graphics. More

Posted by: staticx576
If I wanted to hide my PC it wouldnt be on the top of my desk.

Err, subjective. 5 yard penalty, both sides.

Posted by: staticx576
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10. More fun with photos.
On a Mac, you don’t need any extra software to make a photo book. You don’t have to leave your photo software to visit a separate website and wait for forms to load. All you need is a camera and a Mac. More

[quote]Posted by: staticx576
I dont want a photobook lol, I want to be able to tweak the image so it doesnt look like it came from the crappy camera most mac owners have.

They do make Photoshop for Mac, if that's the kind of image tweaking you're referring to. Most Mac owners? You don't know most Mac owners. I don't know most Mac owners. There are cameras, however, that are very nice (I would even venture to say top-of-the-line, but I'm no photographer, so I wouldn't know) that are both Mac and PC compatible.

In the end, it's not the OS that determines what kind of camera you are allowed to have. It all comes down to how much money you're prepared to shell out.

  • 03.27.2007 10:42 PM PDT

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Posted by: Iggwilv

*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

Posted by: ZC Tango
(I bypassed most of the bits about subjectivity and where I wouldn't know what I was talking about.)

Why not to get Vista
By Apple

Posted by: 1. No upgrade nightmares.
Before you can even think about Vista, you’ll likely need a new PC. Or upgrades for memory, hard disk, and graphics card. Why go through all that hassle, when you can just get a Mac? More

Posted by: staticx576
My PC is more than powerful enough to max vista and then some. I haven't upgraded in over 2 years, and even then I only upgrade to play games, something that OSX still lacks.

You're missing the point here. Apple's target audience (with respect to this advertising, at least) is not the hardcore PC user, as you and many others on this forum seem to claim and be. Not at all. Apple is not going to waste its time attempting to sell a product to those who do not want it. Apple is too smart for that. Apple is aiming for the PC user on the fence, the PC user deliberating whether to keep his PC, or switch to a Mac. Apple is aiming this marketing campaign towards the PC user who would like to use a Mac, but wants to retain most, if not all, of his Windows programs, games, and/or periphrials.
This is where the Bootcamp and duel OS boot bit comes in.

Upgrade capabilities? It all depends on which Mac you get. If you opt for the all-in-one Mac (like mine D:) your best bet is to wait for the warrenty to run out, then do the warrenty-voiding upgrades. Or you can shell out 4,000-odd dollars for the huge Mac tower that has modular components. And it's not OSX that is upgrade-unfriendly, it's the Apple mentality that you shouldn't be able to open up the case and swap stuff.

I know Apple's target audience, but you have to understand I was replying to the original's poster's reasoning when he made this thread, to ultimately sell OSX to us, the hardcore gamers.

Posted by: ZC Tango
Posted by: 2. You can even run Windows.
The Mac gives you choices. With the latest software options, an Intel-powered Mac can easily run Vista or Windows XP applications. Not that you’ll want to... More

Posted by: staticx576
My PC can run windows too! irrelevant

And my Mac can run OSX. Astounding, innit?
Apple's point here is that Intel Macs can run both Windows/Vista and OSX, while PCs cannot run OSX. With all of the quite valid points in your posts, It's hard to believe that you did not pick up on that.

The whole point is why would I go and buy a mac just so I can run windows when I have a perfectly capable windows box that does it already, and it plays games(again, gamer) better than any mac aside from the Mac Pro, but that costs about 2-3x the cost of my setup.

Posted by: ZC Tango
Posted by: 5. Know iTunes? You know Mac.
You’ll recognize features like the library collection, playlist arrangement, and instant search in many Mac applications. So you’re something of a Mac expert already. More

Posted by: staticx576
itunes sucks IMO, foobar2000 is so much better

And iTunes rox, in my opinion. Again, like you said above, it's all subjective.

Agreed!

Posted by: ZC Tango
Posted by: 7. You can take it with you.
Most popular applications for Mac and PC use the same file formats, making it simple to exchange documents with friends and coworkers or move existing files from a PC to a Mac.

Posted by: staticx576
good, in that case I can just stick to windows

Again, Apple is aiming for the PC user who would like to switch to a Mac (Not the PC user who is happy where he stands), but wants to keep all of his old Windows files.

Which makes it pointless for the original poster to post here if he knows he is targeting the gamer audience

Posted by: ZC Tango
Posted by: 5. Still the most advanced OS.
No other operating system, Vista included, offers the rich features and simplicity of Mac OS X. And just as Vista tries to get closer (emphasis on “tries”), Mac OS X Leopard is right around the corner — ready to leap even farther ahead. More

Posted by: staticx576
The best part about this is they offer no examples of whats better, again just marketing BS.

Apple is surmising (perhaps too much so) that the reader is aware of the various projected release dates for Vista and Leopard. Not only that, but all of the various features and pros and cons of each OS.

You are correct- Apple didn't list any features of Vista, or Leopard's comparable features. Most likely because Microsoft was keeping Vista under wraps, guarding their business secrets and OS features so no one would steal them, and Apple was busy doing the same. Ah, this wonderful, trusting capitalist business world we live in.

(Such secrecy is understandable, however, when you consider that Microsoft pulled the patent for the iPod clickwheel right out from under Apple's nose. Was such a move dirty and underhanded? Of course, but it's fair game in the business world. Apple was a fool not to patent such fancy technology first. Now Apple has to pay Microsoft to use their own component to make an iPod. It makes me giggle and cry at the same time.)

No point arguing with something I also believe.

Posted by: ZC Tango
Posted by: 7. No hunting for drivers.
Just about everything works with Mac — even the stuff you used with your old PC. All you have to do is plug it in. A Mac has USB drivers for printers, external drives, digital cameras, input devices, iPod, and more. It can see Bluetooth cell phones and headsets, as well as FireWire cameras. No rebooting, no hassles. More

Posted by: staticx576
I dont hunt for drivers either on my windows machine...

I believe Apple is referring to physicially installing drivers. As in off the CD when you buy your periphrial and install the drivers. (My information is rather sketchy here, as I do not own a current PC that is in one piece. Must you install drivers with each periphrial you purchase?)

The honest truth is no, you do not. Windows comes with 99% of the drivers you will ever need and If it does not say such as video drivers that run faster than a 1984 computer(at least in XP, with Vista the drivers that came with it were absolutly fine for running Halo(only game I tested) at max settings with the framerate in the 1-200s. Although I suppose as time goes in vista's drivers will become dated and require you to find newer ones. Common items such as mice, keyboards, memory card readers, and external harddrives at least in my experence never needed drivers beyond what windows shipped with(I never needed to hunt for them).

Posted by: ZC Tango
Posted by: 8. Design that turns heads.
You won’t want to hide your Mac in a corner of the den. You’ll want it front and center in your life. The Apple style shows in every detail, from its sculpted surfaces to its gorgeous Mac OS X graphics. More

Posted by: staticx576
If I wanted to hide my PC it wouldnt be on the top of my desk.

Err, subjective. 5 yard penalty, both sides.

Just saying that classifying PCs as ugly beige boxes is incorrect. Maybe I could have been more clear?

Posted by: ZC Tango
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10. More fun with photos.
On a Mac, you don’t need any extra software to make a photo book. You don’t have to leave your photo software to visit a separate website and wait for forms to load. All you need is a camera and a Mac. More

Posted by: staticx576
I dont want a photobook lol, I want to be able to tweak the image so it doesnt look like it came from the crappy camera most mac owners have.

They do make Photoshop for Mac, if that's the kind of image tweaking you're referring to. Most Mac owners? You don't know most Mac owners. I don't know most Mac owners. There are cameras, however, that are very nice (I would even venture to say top-of-the-line, but I'm no photographer, so I wouldn't know) that are both Mac and PC compatible.

In the end, it's not the OS that determines what kind of camera you are allowed to have. It all comes down to how much money you're prepared to shell out.

Then dare I say if windows has it's version of photoshop what incentive do I have to switch?

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