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Posted by: shiv master
Careful Javacakes...if he's right, you're probably bleeding onto the carpet.


Pfft....I'm not the one squabbling with mods.

  • 04.05.2007 4:18 PM PDT
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Tact is for those who aren't witty enough to be sarcastic.

No use cryin' over Spillt Milk

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Posted by: shiv master
Careful Javacakes...if he's right, you're probably bleeding onto the carpet.


Pfft....I'm not the one squabbling with mods.


Right but i'm...well...and you're...uh...YOU KNOW!!!

  • 04.05.2007 5:29 PM PDT
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Posted by: shiv master
Posted by: JAVA2
Pfft....I'm not the one squabbling with mods.


Right but i'm...well...and you're...uh...YOU KNOW!!!


And down the drain-hole goes anything worthwhile from this thread.

Not so many times in one thread have I seen so many people care so much over nothing. You can sit here and bicker about the greater good, you can banter the moderators about their opinions and views, you can do what ever the hell you want. But at the end of the day, when it all comes down to it,

Who honestly gives a crap?

To everyone here who's trying to prove something (Yeah, even myself):

Lighten the -blam!- up.

>> Kritz

  • 04.05.2007 6:38 PM PDT
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Kritz, I couldn't agree more :]

I really have nothing else to contribute to this thread, because everyone has pretty much covered my thoughts :\

To summarize everything, I feel when there's a troll or what-not, he/she should just be ignored. Or watch others squabble, and give them the attention that they shouldn't get. If you feel the need to say something back to a complete ass-troll, that's showing them that you care, and that it gets to you; therefore letting them win.

However, it isn't a contest people :P Lighten up, ignore the trolls, don't things too seriously, and have fun :)

  • 04.05.2007 6:49 PM PDT

It was a cold day near the southern base in Blood Gulch. Cortana and I were relaxing over a game of Go Fish, WHEN OUT OF NO WHERE 700 BANSHEES CAME FLYING IN!!! I GRABED MY SPARTAN LASER AND LET HELL REIGN DOWN UPON THEM. I HOPPED IN THE NEAREST WARTHOG AND TOLD CORTANA TO GET IN.

Posted by: Mattbluhalofan
This is a rare occasion, but I actually have a complaint about the Bungie.net community. This has nothing to do with the website at all, but rather, its people.

In the ten months I have been on Bungie, I've learned a lot about the community, how to deal with people here, and much of that is applicable in real life. The community here can be a very fun people, a very enjoyable people to be around, but only under certain circumstances. The case in point: mainly the Septagon.

A previous thread has highlighted this, but I feel the need to put in my own opinion. Not to mention, that if I were to post in said previous thread, I'd probably get my ass handed to me on a silver platter, which is actually something I'm going to get to in this.

Upon Brian Jarrard's arrival to Bungie, and his placement as "Community Guy", he immediately described the community as "brutal", if my memory serves me correctly. I think that serves as a testament to my point.

The Bungie community will be a very good community, as long as you're on their side. If you agree with what they agree with, you'll be best-est friends forever-est. However, if you disagree with them in any way, shape or form, you will be stripped of your rank of "Human Just Like Everyone Else", and in return be labeled "Public Enemy of the Day".

The same punishment will also be employed in the event that you make the slightest mistake. Necropost, BLAM! Your ass is fried for the entire day.

In my time in this community, I have tried to avoid said punishment, but it is an ordeal to. In recent times, I've found the best way to steer clear of this brutality is to simply not come to the website. Which explains why I have been so inactive as of late. I've found that I really don't feel like being grilled, deep fried, and wrapped in bacon for making a simple mistake, or disagreeing with Big Brother, so I've simply stayed away from it all. I'd rather not, I'd like to be active in the community, and play along, but it's becoming increasingly difficult in time.

Which brings me to the point of all this. A vast majority of the community here is overly sensitive and overly caring of others' problems or mistakes, and I'm tired of it. I enjoy the humor of the community, but it can be quite difficult to find this humor through all the criticism and judgement. Judgement is a good word to use in this situation. For, I've found that this community can also be overly judgmental. Many people here are the type to mutter the word "Slut!" under their breath as someone walks by so it's inconspicuous, but the person it's directed to can hear it.

I think the community needs to calm down about these small matters, and take it as it is. There's no sense in crucifying someone for posting in the wrong forum, is there?

Now, I can clearly see that this thread will be very prone to finger-pointing, and in which case, it will end up with middle fingers missing, broken bones, a few dead people, and some very tired moderators, so please try to keep the discussion tame and refrain from finger-pointing or anything of those likes.

You talk about the community like it's out to get you. The community here is just a bunch of guys sitting around, bored, at their computers. Since it's a bunch of guys, not too many girls, there's a lot of testosterone, thus, people will get aggressive. It's not evil or wrong or horrible, it just is. And really, it's not that bad. You're playing it up with so much drama. I mean, honestly, if you make a mistake ten people may point it out, but most of the time thye just haven't read other posts and think they're the first.

Point in case, it's not as big a deal as you make it out to be. It seems like this is just a dramatic post for the sake of making a dramatic post.

EDIT: You say you've been here for 10 months and seen it. I've been for three years and still don't know what you're talking about :/

[Edited on 04.06.2007 4:56 AM PDT]

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Anyone but Foman. He smells like cheese.

Posted by: Pink Menace
You talk about the community like it's out to get you. The community here is just a bunch of guys sitting around, bored, at their computers. Since it's a bunch of guys, not too many girls, there's a lot of testosterone, thus, people will get aggressive. It's not evil or wrong or horrible, it just is. And really, it's not that bad. You're playing it up with so much drama. I mean, honestly, if you make a mistake ten people may point it out, but most of the time thye just haven't read other posts and think they're the first.

Point in case, it's not as big a deal as you make it out to be. It seems like this is just a dramatic post for the sake of making a dramatic post.

EDIT: You say you've been here for 10 months and seen it. I've been for three years and still don't know what you're talking about :/


No offense, Menace, but if you have been here for three years and you do not know what Matt is talking about, then you are somewhat naive. I am not trying to insult you, but rather to respectfully disagree with your implication that there is no problem here with people attacking mistakes and disagreements.

Perhaps Matt did play up the drama a bit, but why not do that in order to stimulate the discussion? Undoubtedly, the substance of his post was absolutely on-point and true. Mistakes and disagreement are not taken well here. Even Achronos and others have acknowledged it in this very thread, at the same time that they have wisely stated that it is better to allow it to just roll off your shoulders and ignore it.

Even better than ignoring it is to understand it, like you seem to do accurately -- many times, a mistake, disagreement, or ignorance is punished by ten or fifteen or more flaming replies. But as you have correctly noted, many people post after reading only the first post in the thread, and thus do not realize that a mistake has been pointed out over and over or that a disagreement has been resolved.

An accurate understanding of this situation (like you seem to have) can lead to a rather complete deconstruction of the idea that the Community as a group is so horrifyingly brutal. But it is similarly undeniable that in some cases, several users might act as a group to attack individual posts. If you would like me to provide examples, I can and will, but I do not feel like retrieving the threads unless you continue to insist that this has never happened.

You are correct that the majority of these "attacks" are relatively benign -- or at least not an intentional concerted attack. But you must realize, Menace, that it takes time, experience, and a strong sense of self-confidence to simply "get used to" seeing sometimes DOZENS of insults hurled at you for making a simple mistake or for criticizing something. The community may be a bunch of guys bored at their computers, but many of those guys really do prefer to spend their time insulting and flaming rather than contributing or being constructive (case in point: see posts by certain users in this very thread). Such is the consequence of boredom in some cases.

Allowing these kinds of things to simply bounce off of you without really worrying about it is obviously the best policy, followed closely by the implementation of various systems to encourage more mature discussion and discourage immature responses. But to act as if Matt is complaining about a problem that doesn't exist is, in my opinion, willful ignorance of the truth.

  • 04.06.2007 8:16 AM PDT

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Posted by: Mattbluhalofan
The forums that you say I just took take sincerely, are the same forums you've dedicated a mini-essay to improving.

I'm going to try my hardest to comprehend this jumble of letters. My analysis is that you say it's hypocritical to make a serious thread about people needing to be less serious.

That's true in one sense. But if a problem needs to be addressed and fixed, it has to be made public, hypocracy aside (though I think that's a little extreme).

I'm just going to ignore Pure Rain, as he is one of the members here who is a bastard coated bastard with bastard filling.[/scrubsreference]

And I swear to god, If anyone says "Oh, so you don't reply to him, but you reply to a spam thread?", I don't know what I will do, but it won't be pretty.

Oops typo, there, I'm sorry. I have trouble explaining things (what makes sense in my head, doesn't necessarily make sense on paper) and so I rearrange sentences so that it's nice and readable (and sometime forget to delete a word or two). "took take".. Yeah... oops.

I meant to say that there's hypocrisy in writing serious essays to improve the forums that I, apparently, take too seriously (your words). Hopefully that clears up the jumbled up mess of words.

If a thread needs moving... that's something to PM a moderator about. I would compare that to someone parking on double yellow lines. It's not a massive crime but the authorities should be informed so that they can sort it and administer the appropriate fine. I wouldn't compare it to someone cheating in a card game... I don't even know how you arrived at that comparison.

As for the rest of your "refuterisation"... you know my opinion on those (and it's not going to change), I'll still warn people for replying to spam (regardless of how helpful they believe they're being).

P.S. Scrubs rawk. Agreed.

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  • 04.06.2007 10:51 AM PDT

I'm not that active, but never dead.

Now that this discussion has had the crap debated out of it, I CHALLENGE the rest of the Community not to reply to it, since it pretty much has already come to it's conclusion.

If you see a troll, ignore, and report it.

-Alex ;D

  • 04.06.2007 2:11 PM PDT
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Tact is for those who aren't witty enough to be sarcastic.

No use cryin' over Spillt Milk

Posted by: Pure Ruin
My negative is people being irrational dicks, and I don't feel like going into further detail, as I already have.

yeah I hate it when that hap-

as he is one of the members here who is a bastard coated bastard with bastard filling

oh no :-(

I don't like to call a moderator in unless it's a serious infraction, and the thread creator has done something seriously. Again, I do it for their well being.

I want you to read this out loud. Just read this and repeat it:

I don't like to call a moderator in unless it's a serious infraction, and the thread creator has done something seriously. Again, I do it for their well being. Also, I absolutely do not overreact or take things on a video game forum too seriously.





Well, now that that's out of the way I'd like it if you addressed the point of your post.

Let me see if I had it straight:

1. You did something dumb and inconsequential like post in the wrong forum. Nobody cares.

2. A couple people laughed at you. You weren't banned or punished in any way.

3. You sat in front of your computer, your eyes filling with homocidal rage and tears. With every last ounce of your internet manliness, you decide that those people will pay! With your last waking moments before bed-time, you fire off a polemic indicting those hypocritical BASTARDS who are also JACKASSES. This is Matt's Pearl Harbour and HE WILL NOT TAKE PEOPLE CORRECTING HIS POST PLACEMENT LYING DOWN, GODDAMMIT.

(You decided that the best course of action was to create a long, meandering thread berating the forum community for chuckling at some everyday slip up you made.)

Why Matt I declare you POSTER OF THE YEAR!


PS: Thanks for writing /scrubsrefence, that's really helpful and witty. It's exactly like html! Really, now that I can know exactly which part of a message is being sarcastic, or a pop-culture reference, I can save a lot of time. It's indicating to me exactly which part is funny, and reinforces it by telling me exactly how it is supposed to be funny. A comedy revolution is beginning!

What the crap Lois! [/familyguy]
Knock knock...! [/mistakenidentitythroughhomonyms]



If Pezza is here, he may misconstrue this as a quote pyramid but I'm willing to take that risk to post the following:

That was the funniest thing I've read in a long time.

  • 04.06.2007 2:17 PM PDT

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What is your problem, Pure Rain? Did daddy do something awful to you early on? You can confide in me, I won't judge you.

I don't like to call a moderator in unless it's a serious infraction, and the thread creator has done something seriously. Again, I do it for their well being. Also, I absolutely do not overreact or take things on a video game forum too seriously.

Do you actually believe that I'm stupid enough to not know you changed my quote?

1. You did something dumb and inconsequential like post in the wrong forum. Nobody cares.

Can you ever stop being wrong? I didn't do anything of the means.

2. A couple people laughed at you. You weren't banned or punished in any way.

Wrong again.

3. You sat in front of your computer, your eyes filling with homocidal rage and tears. With every last ounce of your internet manliness, you decide that those people will pay! With your last waking moments before bed-time, you fire off a polemic indicting those hypocritical BASTARDS who are also JACKASSES. This is Matt's Pearl Harbour and HE WILL NOT TAKE PEOPLE CORRECTING HIS POST PLACEMENT LYING DOWN, GODDAMMIT.

1. Where are we getting "tears and rage" from?
2. Again, I didn't do anything to promote being "made fun of". This is simply an issue that needs to be discussed.
3. Grow a pair and come back when you can present something that's actually reasonable.

Mach schnell, bitte.

If you continue to post so immaturely, I may just call in a moderator. Not that you care, just a warning.

[Edited on 04.06.2007 4:36 PM PDT]

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No use cryin' over Spillt Milk

Posted by: Mattbluhalofan

Mach schnell, bitte.

If you continue to post so immaturely, I may just call in a moderator. Not that you care, just a warning.


Please tell me you were being facetious.

Quick!! Someone tell our multi-lingual whine-bag here how cool he is before that vein in his forehead explodes!!!

  • 04.06.2007 5:07 PM PDT

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You're right. You're all right. You've all proven yourselves to be correct, in one form or another.

* Some people treat these forums like a game, disobeying rules, being silly, and not really caring.

* Some people treat these forums like a forum, in the way they're intended, where everyone obeys rules, and treat eachother kindly.

* And the kind Matt is referring to, some people take these things way too seriously, flying off the handle at a simple insult, or mistake.

Oh, of course, Matt's almost doing the same thing in almost every single one of his posts. It seems to me, Matt, that when anyone disagrees with you, you come back at them with some incredibly defensive statement. Posting with proper grammar, terms from other languages, and appropriate spelling does not mean you're posting in a mature manner. Not by a long shot. The fault is not your's alone, however. Personally, I think you've shown a large lack of maturity in many of yours posts, along with quite a few of the other people posting in this thread.

You're correct, as I've said before, some people in this community take things too seriously. However, I've been observing a vicious cycle. Matt, you're talking about how someone has done something to you, either PMed you something nasty for posting something or somewhere incorrectly, or they've publicly insulted you on the forums. Don't tell me this isn't some personal thing, as I believe you just mentioned in your first post, the best way to avoid criticism, is to not be as active.

First off; people insult other people. That's how the majority of the world is. People like insulting others. If you can't take it on a public forum, certainly you must have some trouble out in the real world.

Secondly; I'm posting a lot. You've seen me, I'm sure. I post lots of things, sometimes things I shouldn't say, or I make a complete fool of myself. So? I can't imagine I've done anything you haven't, and I don't get labeled "Enemy of the Day". If someone harasses me in PMs, I block them. If someone insults me on the forums, I either reply to apoligize, clear something up, or tell them why they're incorrect (if they truly are), or I just ignore them. And I make it very clear, everyone has a right to an opinion. Now, I don't go posting in the wrong forums, as I almost never make topics, and I find it very surprising someone like you, who's been around so long, to not know where certain posts go.

Again, you can say you didn't post in the wrong forum, but I read very clearly in your first post:

In my time in this community, I have tried to avoid said punishment, but it is an ordeal to. In recent times, I've found the best way to steer clear of this brutality is to simply not come to the website. Which explains why I have been so inactive as of late. I've found that I really don't feel like being grilled, deep fried, and wrapped in bacon for making a simple mistake, or disagreeing with Big Brother, so I've simply stayed away from it all. I'd rather not, I'd like to be active in the community, and play along, but it's becoming increasingly difficult in time.


To me, that's what that means.

Now, this entire thread itself is a testament to how people around here take things way too seriously. You're becoming one of the people you're so angry about. Someone called you a name, or called someone else a name. Fine, go stand up for them, or yourself, for that matter, and let the attacker know they're not being a nice guy. But what you've done is make an entire thread about how bad these people are. You've just judged (Oh, do we remember that word?) a very large population. Actually, you're judging a large portion of human nature.

Also, you're doing it right now. You're replying to Pure Ruin, when I wouldn't respond to such silly posts in the first place. Maybe this is your problem. You have to respond to every little fly that lands on you.

Insulting makes people feel powerful. As does making threads in the Septagon about how our community is going downhill, or how crappy the state of the forum is.

If you notice, it's become a trend as of late, and I think it has nothing to do with our community going downhill, but a few of the individual members..

[edited: Incomplete sentence, too many thoughts. ;)]

[Edited on 04.06.2007 5:23 PM PDT]

  • 04.06.2007 5:09 PM PDT

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People need to realize that this thread has absolutely nothing to do with me on a personal level. I didn't make this thread out of personal spite, I made it because I see this as a growing problem that needs to be fixed. Jesus Christ, I'm getting so sick of saying that.

Posted by: SS_Zag1
It seems to me, Matt, that when anyone disagrees with you, you come back at them with some incredibly defensive statement.


I'm tired of being called "defensive". What you call "defensive" is actually me just holding up my part of the argument. If everyone shouted "He's being defensive!" during a debate, there would be no such thing as a debate. You have to reply in defense of your argument in order to hold it up. And besides, in other cases, it's because someone brings up something else, which I need to clarify. I'm sorry, but you can't expect me to just take a rebuttal sitting down. I'm not a doormat. That doesn't mean I'm not open-minded, it just means I hold my side up.

Now, this entire thread itself is a testament to how people around here take things way too seriously. You're becoming one of the people you're so angry about.

We are entirely mixing up our current meanings of "seriously". In fact, it's being used incorrectly all over the place.

People, understand. What I am dealing with is people who are overly-rude about things that aren't needed. What I see all-too-often is someone posting "God, that idea SUCKS, you're a dumbass, I hope you get killed!", when the could just post "I don't really like that idea."

THAT is what I am talking about. Nothing further from it, nothing closer to it. That is exactly the problem I am addressing. Take that and only that into consideration.

Someone called you a name, or called someone else a name. Fine, go stand up for them, or yourself, for that matter, and let the attacker know they're not being a nice guy. But what you've done is make an entire thread about how bad these people are. You've just judged (Oh, do we remember that word?) a very large population. Actually, you're judging a large portion of human nature.

I made the assumption that people could differentiate between the people who do, and those who don't. I figured that if someone knows that they were doing that to begin with, they would know that I was talking about them, but if they weren't, they were exempt from it. I can do it. If someone makes a blanket statement about a group of people that I am a member of, which doesn't hold true for me, I know that I am exampt from that. I made the assumption that you could do it too.

Also, you're doing it right now. You're replying to Pure Ruin, when I wouldn't respond to such silly posts in the first place. Maybe this is your problem. You have to respond to every little fly that lands on you.

Guy, come on. He's posted here several times, and I only replied to one of his posts. That doesn't hold up.

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Posted by: Pure Ruin
oh well, there are other forums


Hero.

  • 04.06.2007 5:37 PM PDT

I'll be on my own side.

I seem to recall a certain "defensive member" flaming people, and then when I called him out on it, his defense was "I'm not flaming;dumbass and jackass aren't flame words." This member also had alternate account made for flaming people, so as not to soil his squeaky clean image that he totally doesn't take seriously.

Totally.

  • 04.06.2007 5:43 PM PDT

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Posted by: Mattbluhalofan
People need to realize that this thread has absolutely nothing to do with me on a personal level. I didn't make this thread out of personal spite, I made it because I see this as a growing problem that needs to be fixed. Jesus Christ, I'm getting so sick of saying that.

Yet you seem to be getting angry over things I wouldn't think twice about ignoring entirely, or calmly explaining. Forgive me, perhaps I'm more tolerant than you are, which may be the entire problem here, and thus I have no way of even fathoming where you're coming from.


I'm tired of being called "defensive". What you call "defensive" is actually me just holding up my part of the argument. If everyone shouted "He's being defensive!" during a debate, there would be no such thing as a debate. You have to reply in defense of your argument in order to hold it up. And besides, in other cases, it's because someone brings up something else, which I need to clarify. I'm sorry, but you can't expect me to just take a rebuttal sitting down. I'm not a doormat. That doesn't mean I'm not open-minded, it just means I hold my side up.

When I use the word "Defensive", I don't mean defensive, like a male rhino defending his family, standing there all bulky, large, and unmoving. I refer much more to a cat, backed into a corner by a much larger foe, to the point where it starts hissing and clawing wildly at anyone within range.

We are entirely mixing up our current meanings of "seriously". In fact, it's being used incorrectly all over the place.

People, understand. What I am dealing with is people who are overly-rude about things that aren't needed. What I see all-too-often is someone posting "God, that idea SUCKS, you're a dumbass, I hope you get killed!", when the could just post "I don't really like that idea."


Just like when you said "What is your problem, Pure Rain? Did daddy do something awful to you early on? You can confide in me, I won't judge you."?

You may have been a tad more clever than "You suck, I hope you get killed", but that's equally as rude. You're very condescending in that sentence, which in no way makes you more mature than him.

I made the assumption that people could differentiate between the people who do, and those who don't. I figured that if someone knows that they were doing that to begin with, they would know that I was talking about them, but if they weren't, they were exempt from it. I can do it. If someone makes a blanket statement about a group of people that I am a member of, which doesn't hold true for me, I know that I am exampt from that. I made the assumption that you could do it too.

I'm not at all saying you've judged me, or even a group I'm in. I'm just commenting that you're judging, in general, when one of your supporting reasons for this entire thread is that the judgement of other users is too frequent. However, people judge other people, it's more or less of an instinct. It could easily be traced back to our ancestral tribal societies, as a way of determining who is safe, who isn't, and how to deal with them. Other people react differently to certain things. As I've said, when people insult someone, especially with a "Go kill yourself" statement, it makes them feel tough. They lean back in their chair, smile at the screen as they hit the submit button and think to themselves: "Haha, chumps. They're such losers. I bet they're going to feel really bad now. Suckers."

Looks like they're right. Thanks for making them right, Matt.


Guy, come on. He's posted here several times, and I only replied to one of his posts. That doesn't hold up.

But it happened to be one of his posts that needed the least amount of responding to. My point is, it's not worth it for either of you; for him to make the post and for you to reply.

[Edited on 04.06.2007 5:48 PM PDT]

  • 04.06.2007 5:47 PM PDT

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Posted by: SS_Zag1
Just like when you said "What is your problem, Pure Rain? Did daddy do something awful to you early on? You can confide in me, I won't judge you."?

You may have been a tad more clever than "You suck, I hope you get killed", but that's equally as rude. You're very condescending in that sentence, which in no way makes you more mature than him.[quote]

But just how often do you see me post things like that? You don't call someone who drinks once a month an alcoholic. I understand, that was less than mature, or nice, but what does it matter? Just think that over for a second.

Hypocrisy is a word I see coming up in the near future. And I'll admit, that's true. So we can just get that out of the way as it is.

[quote]I'm not at all saying you've judged me, or even a group I'm in. I'm just commenting that you're judging, in general, when one of your supporting reasons for this entire thread is that the judgement of other users is too frequent. However, people judge other people, it's more or less of an instinct. It could easily be traced back to our ancestral tribal societies, as a way of determining who is safe, who isn't, and how to deal with them. Other people react differently to certain things. As I've said, when people insult someone, especially with a "Go kill yourself" statement, it makes them feel tough. They lean back in their chair, smile at the screen as they hit the submit button and think to themselves: "Haha, chumps. They're such losers. I bet they're going to feel really bad now. Suckers."

Looks like they're right. Thanks for making them right, Matt.


There's a reason why that isn't true. It's a bit of a secret, so I'l whisper it.

*I'm not.*

  • 04.06.2007 5:57 PM PDT
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Tact is for those who aren't witty enough to be sarcastic.

No use cryin' over Spillt Milk

What is this? The battle of who's most long-winded?

You guys should really take a breath now and then.

  • 04.06.2007 5:57 PM PDT

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Posted By: Mattbluhalofan
I understand, that was less than mature, or nice, but what does it matter? Just think that over for a second.


Bingo. Why don't you think that over for a second?

I'm not posting in this thread anymore.

  • 04.06.2007 6:02 PM PDT

I'll be on my own side.

So when Ash makes a "condescending statement", he has to "keep the maturity level above borderline", but when Matt makes a less than mature statement, it doesn't matter?

Odd.

  • 04.06.2007 6:05 PM PDT

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Bingo. Why don't you think that over for a second?

I'm not posting in this thread anymore.


There is a difference between one single person, and an entire community. Now, with that, I can predict "Oh, so you can say it, but other people can't?" being said, so I will reroute it back to my original statement, of decreasing it altogether.

A general statement, you know what I think? I sense I high level of cynicism, skepticism, pessimism. I think (those who continually argue) that people are just afraid. You realize that this is, in fact a problem, but you don't want to have to change anything. So what do you do? You put on this "badass" facade, so you can just hide the fact that you're afraid to try and chance anything.

You can argue that all you want, I don't care.

  • 04.06.2007 6:18 PM PDT
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Am i the only one who can't stop laughing at the sheer hilarity and moronity in this thread? From what i can gather, its people trolling over how they argues about how to combat trolling. It's fantastic!! ♥♥♥

  • 04.06.2007 6:22 PM PDT