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Subject: Bungie should be more like a ROCKSTAR.

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errrrrm. I'm ....sorry??? Bungie do that, they like to keep things secretive, and you should be pateint, Halo 3 will be ready when its ready. Bungie has a notorious history of not releasing games when they say they will, just wait silently with baited breath for the new Halo like the rest of us.

  • 04.04.2007 6:34 AM PDT

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Not a community concern. This is about the Halo 3 release so I'll move it to the Halo 3 forum.

I don't know why they didn't announce the release date; but they probably had a good reason. They've announced that it will release autumn time so there's a more specific time-frame for you other than '2007'.

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  • 04.04.2007 7:22 AM PDT
Subject: Bungie should be more like a ROCKSTAR.
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Why is it that Grand Theft Auto IV, a game that is just as hyped as Halo 3.....can come out with a trailer and include an actual release month......yet Bungie cannot? Is Bungie afraid that they will not be able to come up with their end of the bargain?meeting the release date? What's the big deal anyway? Now that I know when GTA comes out, I can make plans to save here and there to purchase. See how that works? I'm getting both games.....but I'm sure this may cause problems for some.



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  • 04.04.2007 6:23 AM PDT

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Last time I checked GTA 4 is not coming out with a beta in the next coming month for thousands to play, Halo 3 is. As for the release date? Dont worry about it, Bungie stated Fall 2007. I personally like not knowing the release date yet. I am sure Bungie will announce the Release date with a amazing Trailer, most likely on the last day of E3.

  • 04.04.2007 7:36 AM PDT
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GTA is a cookie cutter game. Rockstar throws in a few upgrades each time, but they use the same engine and devo tools over and over again. That's why Driver looks just like GTA. In my opinion, the games are a poor comparison to Bungie's games (no, I'm not a fanboy, but I do appreciate quality when I see it).

By comparison, Bungie makes massive upgrades to not only the games, but also the tools they use. They are constantly pushing themselves to be on the cutting edge of gaming. They take their time and get the games right. That is something that too many developers cannot say these days.

  • 04.04.2007 8:40 AM PDT

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First of all, theyre alot more on key with H3 than Halo 2. Remember all those "Pushed back" notices and obvious ogranizational boo boo's? They're 130% more devoted to Halo 3 than 2. Patience, and perhaps taking up knitting will stave you off till this fall

  • 04.04.2007 8:48 AM PDT

If you want to see the MC die, play Legendary. If you want to see MC finish the fight, play Halo 3. If you want to see MC finish the fight by dieing, why did you waste six years when you could have done it yourself right now?

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You said A rockstar. In that case you would mean they have guitars that melt incoming meteors to make them look like gods (Best commercial EVER!!! bungie, you really should get GH2 to get you pumped up to program.)

Or maybe you could have meant the energy drink. We don't know how they act when the cameras aren't around, yet from what they tell us... they're rockstars!

But nay, you meant the developers. Shame on you to compare one developer to another. You just can't do that. Both are awesome in their own ways.

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  • 04.04.2007 9:09 AM PDT
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It's not about being patient............ It's about "us" the customers, being caught in the middle of this console war. All these calculated moves are starting to piss me off! Not wanting to give out release dates in fear of some sort of counter-move by another company just sucks........and the campaign shouldn't be driven by HYPE or what the Limited or Legendary editions will include...........................but by the quality of content. If Bungie isn't confident enough in their product........confident enough to give out a release date. Then I understand.......but we all know, that's not the reason.

and GTA is just as ground-breaking to it's genre as Halo is respectively to the FPS world.............so the comparison is valid. How many GTA copy cats has there been since the original? a ton.......just like all the Halo copy cats.

  • 04.04.2007 9:15 AM PDT

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GamOvr, I seriously doubt the release date hasn't been set due to wanting to out-stradegize the other games. They could release in the same week and it'd make no difference. Bungie is going to schedule a release date when they're good and ready to, not becasue someone like you, who has no clue of what goes on behind the curtains (hint: It has nothing to do with hot cheerleaders and making out) at Microsoft and Bungie Studios.

You want a release date... So? Who cares what you want? I'd like one too, but it's not like we're going to have them throw out some silly date, that they then have to post-pone even further (causing anger) or wrap up their game before it's fully finished (Halo 2, which caused anger). Let them do it the right way, not your way.

  • 04.04.2007 9:27 AM PDT

If you want to see the MC die, play Legendary. If you want to see MC finish the fight, play Halo 3. If you want to see MC finish the fight by dieing, why did you waste six years when you could have done it yourself right now?

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Posted by: SS_Zag1
GamOvr, I seriously doubt the release date hasn't been set due to wanting to out-stradegize the other games. They could release in the same week and it'd make no difference. Bungie is going to schedule a release date when they're good and ready to, not becasue someone like you, who has no clue of what goes on behind the curtains (hint: It has nothing to do with hot cheerleaders and making out) at Microsoft and Bungie Studios.

You want a release date... So? Who cares what you want? I'd like one too, but it's not like we're going to have them throw out some silly date, that they then have to post-pone even further (causing anger) or wrap up their game before it's fully finished (Halo 2, which caused anger). Let them do it the right way, not your way.


Actually that's EXACTLY why they haven't given a release date. They don't have to, and no one is making them. Their only goal is to release it sometime this year and honestly, that's all I need to know. They'll probably release it as late this year as possible and everyone should have assumed that.

  • 04.04.2007 9:33 AM PDT
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Posted by: GamOvr
Why is it that Grand Theft Auto IV, a game that is just as hyped as Halo 3.....can come out with a trailer and include an actual release month......yet Bungie cannot? Is Bungie afraid that they will not be able to come up with their end of the bargain?meeting the release date? What's the big deal anyway? Now that I know when GTA comes out, I can make plans to save here and there to purchase. See how that works? I'm getting both games.....but I'm sure this may cause problems for some.

Microsoft is starting to "tick" me off too........the hardcore and loyal fans.........in this case the foolish ones, all have gone out and purchased 360's only to find out that the ELITE is coming! This is bull crap! We should be able to trade in our current 360's for upgrades! This was the plan from the start.....we're the guinea pigs.......

it's my Monday......sorry.


Bungie should be more like Rockstar?
i disagree, Bungie should stay like Bungie.

  • 04.04.2007 9:41 AM PDT

If you want to see the MC die, play Legendary. If you want to see MC finish the fight, play Halo 3. If you want to see MC finish the fight by dieing, why did you waste six years when you could have done it yourself right now?

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Posted by: Hunter740
Bungie should be more like Rockstar?
i disagree, Bungie should stay like Bungie.
Lolz, and Rockstar should be LESS like Bungie. That can't just release an trailer that just shows the graphics and no gameplay and people will explode. Although I'll have to admit, that trailer looks nothing like the graphic style GTA usually has. It's a real step forward for them. The blurryness and boxy graphics in the older games were what made me not want to play them.

  • 04.04.2007 10:38 AM PDT
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this thread was not started to end as an ASS kissing contest for Bungie. I understand that this thread does not change Bungie's decision to " do whatever the hell they want" ......that's a given. So stop mentioning the obvious.

I'm saying, Bungie SHOULD have a release date. Halo 3 is going to sell regardless........so what's the big deal?

what could be holding them back? are they not done?

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  • 04.04.2007 10:41 AM PDT

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OK, yes, it is very true that I'm a dumb ass. I'm not denying that. However, isn't the whole point of a beta to increase the amount of users until you get someone dumb enough to try something you haven't anticipated.
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....Bungie makes massive upgrades to not only the games, but also the tools they use. They are constantly pushing themselves to be on the cutting edge of gaming. They take their time and get the games right. That is something that too many developers cannot say these days.



wow that sums it up great post 10/10

  • 04.04.2007 10:45 AM PDT

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OK, yes, it is very true that I'm a dumb ass. I'm not denying that. However, isn't the whole point of a beta to increase the amount of users until you get someone dumb enough to try something you haven't anticipated.
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Posted by: GamOvr
....what could be holding them back? are they not done?


yea they are not done just read the weekly updates and you will know that. And if the game is going to 'sell regardless' why bother releasing a possibly superficial release date?

  • 04.04.2007 10:47 AM PDT
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Posted by: Darth_Rocker
....Bungie makes massive upgrades to not only the games, but also the tools they use. They are constantly pushing themselves to be on the cutting edge of gaming. They take their time and get the games right. That is something that too many developers cannot say these days.



wow that sums it up great post 10/10


Yeah, well my response to that is........................Halo 2's campaign jackass......................cutting edge !?! more like cutting corners.

  • 04.04.2007 10:49 AM PDT

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OK, yes, it is very true that I'm a dumb ass. I'm not denying that. However, isn't the whole point of a beta to increase the amount of users until you get someone dumb enough to try something you haven't anticipated.
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Posted by: Bunqie Jump
Posted by: Darth_Rocker
....Bungie makes massive upgrades to not only the games, but also the tools they use. They are constantly pushing themselves to be on the cutting edge of gaming. They take their time and get the games right. That is something that too many developers cannot say these days.



wow that sums it up great post 10/10


Yeah, well my response to that is........................Halo 2's campaign jackass......................cutting edge !?! more like cutting corners.


Whoa calm down there, OK so it is obvious that not everyone likes Halo 2's campaign and they all have the right not to, I on the other hand did enjoy Halo 2's campaign, maybe not as much as Halo 1 but defiantly more then any other non Bungie FPS in recent times (GoldenEye and Perfect Dark 1 were better for there time). But you don't have to lash out at other people's opinions because you don't agree.

  • 04.04.2007 10:52 AM PDT

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Posted by: GamOvr
Posted by: Bunqie Jump
Posted by: Darth_Rocker
....Bungie makes massive upgrades to not only the games, but also the tools they use. They are constantly pushing themselves to be on the cutting edge of gaming. They take their time and get the games right. That is something that too many developers cannot say these days.



wow that sums it up great post 10/10


Yeah, well my response to that is........................Halo 2's campaign jackass......................cutting edge !?! more like cutting corners.


Actually, that's just opinion. As is this entire 'statement' you've made in this thread. I enjoyed Halo 2's campaign, and I believe Bungie goes above and beyond anything Rockstar can do. Rockstar has been using the same gameplay for every single game. The only difference between all their game's is the size of the environment and a few features that don't really change anything about it. They're stale.

Bungie is not stale.

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  • 04.04.2007 10:53 AM PDT

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To be honest I think ill put more hours into GTA 6 if its online then I will Halo 3, they will be the IT games of the system thats for sure.

  • 04.04.2007 10:57 AM PDT
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....Bungie makes massive upgrades to not only the games, but also the tools they use. They are constantly pushing themselves to be on the cutting edge of gaming. They take their time and get the games right. That is something that too many developers cannot say these days.



wow that sums it up great post 10/10


Yeah, well my response to that is........................Halo 2's campaign jackass......................cutting edge !?! more like cutting corners.


Whoa calm down there, OK so it is obvious that not everyone likes Halo 2's campaign and they all have the right not to, I on the other hand did enjoy Halo 2's campaign, maybe not as much as Halo 1 but defiantly more then any other non Bungie FPS in recent times (GoldenEye and Perfect Dark 1 were better for there time). But you don't have to lash out at other people's opinions because you don't agree.


I agree. Also point me to a game with better online multilayer then HALO 2?

  • 04.04.2007 10:58 AM PDT
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Just proving your statement false.......that's all.......and this is not a Halo 1 vs. Halo 2 discussion. This is the Bungie stop dragging us along for the ride thread. Stop trying to Hype things up that are already hyped.............atleast give us a priority list. What's the order of accomodation? Halo 2 maps, Beta test, Halo 3, Halo wars, novels, movies, action figures, WTF !
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[Edited on 04.04.2007 11:01 AM PDT]

  • 04.04.2007 11:00 AM PDT

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Posted by: GamOvr
Just proving your statement false.......that's all.......and this is not a Halo 1 vs. Halo 2 discussion. This is the Bungie stop dragging us along for the ride thread. Stop trying to Hype things up that are already hyped.............atleast give us a priority list. What's the order of accomodation? Halo 2 maps, Beta test, Halo 3, Halo wars, novels, movies, action figures, WTF !
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See, now I really don't know what your point is..
You want a release date. OK?

... And?

  • 04.04.2007 11:02 AM PDT
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Its bungie get used to it. They say one thing but do the complete opposite. Remember "the br fires single shot burts when zoomed""the dropships can be taken down and boarded"" and the whole idea halo 2 was about you saving the planet. But it ends up being about elites and heretics. They are very good at building hype. Bungie will release a date when they will get the most attention,.

  • 04.04.2007 11:02 AM PDT

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OK, yes, it is very true that I'm a dumb ass. I'm not denying that. However, isn't the whole point of a beta to increase the amount of users until you get someone dumb enough to try something you haven't anticipated.
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Posted by: GamOvr
Just proving your statement false.......that's all.......and this is not a Halo 1 vs. Halo 2 discussion. This is the Bungie stop dragging us along for the ride thread. Stop trying to Hype things up that are already hyped.............atleast give us a priority list. What's the order of accomodation? Halo 2 maps, Beta test, Halo 3, Halo wars, novels, movies, action figures, WTF !
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If you don't want to be dragged along on the "bungie ride" just leave bungie.net and don't concern yourself with Halo until you ask your friend's what they are doing, sometime in the fall probably, and they say they are playing halo 3, then you know that the game is out and you can go buy it. You will not have to deal with any of the 'hype' that bothers you so much apparently. I really don't know what your point is anymore.

  • 04.04.2007 11:06 AM PDT
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I agree. Also point me to a game with better online multilayer then HALO 2? [/quote]


I guess the question is: where should I start? I have a feeling this is the FIRST time you've experienced on-line play and you're convinced that it doesn't get better.........well wake up fool cuz it didn't start with Halo 2.

I'll give Halo 2 the title of best Console on-line game........but let's not get ahead of ourselves here.

and for the record. Halo 1CE, Golden Eye and Perfect Dark 1 are CLASSICS. Halo 2 is........................a stepping stone to Halo 3..........that's it.

  • 04.04.2007 11:08 AM PDT

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