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Posted by: Cockburnicus
You missed the point like Vader missed the banshee, your whole argument is covered in bees.
Stop sending me group invites -blam!-s!

After realising that English is the preferred language I thought this might be unfair to foreigners. So I propose, instead of locking threads, the user must provide a translated link.

Here is an example. I know it is not the best example but it just goes to show that it is possible to get all communities involved in the forums.

Here is the translation site. Just an idea.

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  • 04.09.2007 8:29 AM PDT

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The trouble being that online translations aren't always that great. I think just sticking with English is easier (though of course i would say that ;]).

  • 04.09.2007 8:40 AM PDT
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It'll never work. It forces moderators to hit a second link to check all content is fine. That, and translation websites are just a joke. This is what happens when people communicate using sites such as babelfish and google translations.

Quote from EVE Online Local smacktalk:
Someone > will stop to hide
Dimson > I I will regret to report to you that you can or, possibly, not to misuse by my acid of battery. You will shoot at my vessel, and my bananas can destroy the boundary of your smoked agitation of dragon.
Dimson > the filled with doubt penguins of laser will work effective in the stream, which is exceptionally evil.
Someone > you smoking?
Dimson > May however write and galava to bumat' little little


(Babelfish arguments with the russians ftw :D)

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Posted by: Gods Prophet
The trouble being that online translations aren't always that great. I think just sticking with English is easier (though of course i would say that ;]).


Okay, for the record, it would be the english speaking person to say that english is easier. :-P I'm trilingual so I am not gonna jump on anyone's back for anything here, but come on people.

The language barrier is just something we are gonna have to deal with each in our own way, online translators do dittly squat right. The online translators can't even do slang, which when you speak a certain language your whole life you tend to do. So really nothing the translation said would be very correct. I really think your point has no vaildation. But that is just me...:-)

  • 04.09.2007 8:50 AM PDT
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I'm not sure what muffin's is looking for with this.

Welcome to Bungie.net, where we are kind enough to blacklist you in your language of choice.

  • 04.09.2007 9:32 AM PDT

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Didn't we have a huge discussion about this in the Septagon once? Recon Number 54 gave some great words on this subject..

And I think, in summary, we all agreed upon something along the lines of: This is an English board. Post in English. If you post in another language, the moderators have to do even more work to make sure you're not violating the code of conduct with what you are saying.

I sure wouldn't want to have to translate every post in another language. What really bothers me is when the person is perfectly capable of speaking English, and they still choose to post in another language. :\

  • 04.09.2007 10:40 AM PDT
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Posted by: SS_Zag1
What really bothers me is when the person is perfectly capable of speaking English, and they still choose to post in another language. :\


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Yeah, english, ftw!

  • 04.09.2007 10:44 AM PDT

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The only thread i have read that used foreign languages was when a sweedish dude (not THE a sweedish dude) wanted to know something specific about motion capture cards in sweeden. I think that most people who can't speak English will be put off even vistiting the site considering everthing on the front page is in English.

  • 04.09.2007 10:51 AM PDT
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If you invite me to your group you will be blocked.

How about we just post a stickie in each forum with a link to a valid translation site?

  • 04.09.2007 12:33 PM PDT

I remember when I used this space to put cool looking links to my chapters back in the day. I don't even know why I'm using it now. Why are you even reading this? You must be interested in me. Still reading?

How about this:

When a member joins Bungie.net, he/she chooses a language. If that member chooses "Spanish", then all post will be in a spanish format for thatperson and all the other spaniards. Kind of like Wikipedia. When a member posts a Thread in Spanish, those who chose "English" will se the thread in english.

That is just a quick thought I had. Thta might be an easier way to put it but It might over ride the B.net servers or something catastrophic to happen.

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As a Norwegian, I have to say that I want this to stay as an English only site (except for chapters, what happens in a chapter stays in a chapter). There's so many reasons why B.net should stick to English, but I'll just mention the one no one thinks about. We learn a lot of English through sites like this, and I can speak from my own personal experience that we who doesn't speak English as our first language develop our written English skills tremendously through community sites like B.net...

For those who'll bring up the fact that most people here speak like -blam!-, with their leet language and grammar that even monkeys trying to write Shakespeare by randomly punish keys are embarrassed about, I can only say that they're right. However, this isn't a place to learn English but it can still be used to develop language skills.

  • 04.09.2007 12:40 PM PDT

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Most sites that have forums separate the forums by language. It's well beyond the capabilities of the B.net web crew and moderators to bridge the language gaps for us. The best solution I can think of is for Bungie to create sites for different regions. this would be a lot of work for them, and they'd probably only consider it if they thought there would be enough use. For instance, there could be a site that is a mirror for this site that is called sp.bungie.net, that has all the same content as www.bungie.net (But in Spanish) besides forums: The forums would be fresh new forums where all Spanish speaking Bungie fans could connect. Why is this unlikely? Because the cost to Bungie (i.e. A couple bilingual employees who have the time to do everything the current web crew does, in unison with them) would be large and the interest in the Spanish version would likely not be enough to support that cost.

I'm just addressing the cold truth. I think it's kind of lame how English has become the "universal" language, and I am jealous of anyone who can speak more than one language, because that's more languages than I can speak.

  • 04.09.2007 1:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: AnalogWeapon
Most sites that have forums separate the forums by language. It's well beyond the capabilities of the B.net web crew and moderators to bridge the language gaps for us. The best solution I can think of is for Bungie to create sites for different regions. this would be a lot of work for them, and they'd probably only consider it if they thought there would be enough use. For instance, there could be a site that is a mirror for this site that is called sp.bungie.net, that has all the same content as www.bungie.net (But in Spanish) besides forums: The forums would be fresh new forums where all Spanish speaking Bungie fans could connect. Why is this unlikely? Because the cost to Bungie (i.e. A couple bilingual employees who have the time to do everything the current web crew does, in unison with them) would be large and the interest in the Spanish version would likely not be enough to support that cost.


Not only unlikely, but pointless. Non-English speakers would still gravitate toward the main site, where all the "action" takes place, so to speak. They might use the mirrored alternate-language sites to get their news updates and such, but all forum participation would centralize on the original b.net anyway. That's kind of how I like it -- I'll take the good with the bad.

I think it's kind of lame how English has become the "universal" language, and I am jealous of anyone who can speak more than one language, because that's more languages than I can speak.
"And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech. . . . And they said, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth. And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded. And the LORD said, Behold, the people are one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.

Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech. So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city. Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth."


-Genesis Ch. 11

Haha.... Your quote above just reminded me that even the Bible acknowledges the power of universal language. It's not necessarily a bad thing.



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Posted by: American Recoil
When a member joins Bungie.net, he/she chooses a language. If that member chooses "Spanish", then all post will be in a spanish format for thatperson and all the other spaniards.


There were many problems with your idea. My main concern is that the Spanish option would be available to Spaniards only, while the rest of our Spanish speaking brothers in Central and South America would be left language-less.

  • 04.09.2007 1:27 PM PDT

I remember when I used this space to put cool looking links to my chapters back in the day. I don't even know why I'm using it now. Why are you even reading this? You must be interested in me. Still reading?

No, anyone across the world will choose there language. If you are Asian and live in Austrailia you can still choose that language.

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Posted by: American Recoil
No, anyone across the world will choose there language. If you are Asian and live in Austrailia you can still choose that language.

So you're saying that Australiasians speak Spanish too? That just doesnt sound right for some reason. Do you mean as a course in school or thier primary language?

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Posted by: American Recoil
No, anyone across the world will choose there language. If you are Asian and live in Austrailia you can still choose that language.

So you're saying that Australiasians speak Spanish too? That just doesnt sound right for some reason. Do you mean as a course in school or thier primary language?
We Aussies speak whatever language we want, even if we don't what language we happen to be speaking... or even if it is a language.

  • 04.09.2007 6:46 PM PDT
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Posted by: Johnny Fever
Posted by: American Recoil
No, anyone across the world will choose there language. If you are Asian and live in Austrailia you can still choose that language.

So you're saying that Australiasians speak Spanish too? That just doesnt sound right for some reason. Do you mean as a course in school or thier primary language?

Pardon?!

Ignore the location. He means an option to choose whatever language you want the site to be in, regardless of which country you're in.

-TGP-

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Posted by: Johnny Fever
Posted by: American Recoil
No, anyone across the world will choose there language. If you are Asian and live in Austrailia you can still choose that language.

So you're saying that Australiasians speak Spanish too? That just doesnt sound right for some reason. Do you mean as a course in school or thier primary language?

Pardon?!

Ignore the location. He means an option to choose whatever language you want the site to be in, regardless of which country you're in.

-TGP-


So you mean if I was a German living in Japan, I could still pick Spanish, right?

  • 04.10.2007 11:52 AM PDT

Ja.

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But here's the thing - as the quality of online translators increase, shouldn't Bungie start considering adding a multilingual option to the board? You know, before you sign in, all the text is English, but after you sign in, your preferred language is enforced and everything is Dutch (or what have you).

I think that as soon as the technology is available and seemless, all self respecting BBSs should institute such a policy. Imagine how much closer the gamers of the world could get, everyone effectively speaking everyone else's language all the time. Chinese and English gamers discussing the finer points of needler suckage. Russian and Hindustani gamers going over strats that don't blow for Lockout one flag fast. Korean players claiming they are the best in the world, and everyone mocking them in a form they can understand and feel hurt by. It'd be awesome.

  • 04.10.2007 3:38 PM PDT
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Posted by: American Recoil
How about this:

When a member joins Bungie.net, he/she chooses a language. If that member chooses "Spanish", then all post will be in a spanish format for thatperson and all the other spaniards. Kind of like Wikipedia. When a member posts a Thread in Spanish, those who chose "English" will se the thread in english.

That is just a quick thought I had. Thta might be an easier way to put it but It might over ride the B.net servers or something catastrophic to happen.

-Recoil


Sites that offer different language options are not simply translations of the English version of the site since direct translations are often not possible.
Since the content of the forums changes by the second, an active translation wouldn't be feasible.

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  • 04.10.2007 4:04 PM PDT

because if seeing is believing,
then believe that we have lost our eyes

other languages + spammers = Mods that speak other languages?

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Posted by: Ishcabittle
Korean players claiming they are the best in the world, and everyone mocking them in a form they can understand and feel hurt by. It'd be awesome.

That would indeed be grounds for celebration. I've always wondered what H1 pistol > H2 pistol looks like in Korean.

  • 04.11.2007 8:30 AM PDT