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Subject: H2V:Will there be a pistole ?
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Hi i've got a question
Will there be a pistole in H2V like in Halo?
I have never played the XboxH2 version.
And if there will be a pistole is it compareable with the Halo pistole(Damage and other stuff)

  • 04.17.2007 7:42 AM PDT
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Yes, and no.

There is a pistol, the Magnum, but it is vastly weaker than the Halo 1 pistol.

  • 04.17.2007 8:13 AM PDT
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Posted by: Aj6627
Yes, and no.

There is a pistol, the Magnum, but it is vastly weaker than the Halo 1 pistol.
It was actually an okay weapon if you dual-wielded it before the auto-update nerfed it to a pea-shooter.

  • 04.17.2007 9:06 AM PDT
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The battle rifle is just a weaker version of the pistol. I hate it when people say that there is no more pistol, cause there is, it's just in the forum of a 4 shot kill rifle instead of a 3 shot kill side arm.

  • 04.17.2007 10:33 AM PDT
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The battle rifle is just a weaker version of the pistol. I hate it when people say that there is no more pistol, cause there is, it's just in the forum of a 4 shot kill rifle instead of a 3 shot kill side arm.


Not really, the br is just another version of the ar. The pistol was just weakened for balance purposes I guess. But I'm not really sure why they made it weaker.

[Edited on 04.17.2007 12:10 PM PDT]

  • 04.17.2007 12:09 PM PDT
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NO.

H2 Battle Rifle = H1 Pistole
H2 SMG = H1 AR

The Assault Rifle was fully automatic, weak, and inaccurate, much closer to the SMG than the Battle Rifle.

[Edited on 04.17.2007 12:24 PM PDT]

  • 04.17.2007 12:24 PM PDT
Subject: H2V:Will there be a pistol?
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yeah.. It should be interesting. The SMG sadly isn't as useful as the AR so if you possible go BR and balance it with ome other weapon, maybe plasma pistol or some -blam!-

  • 04.17.2007 12:42 PM PDT
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Well, the Battle Rifle and Pistol are similar, but they're not equal. It goes more like Pistol>BR, and AR>SMG.

  • 04.17.2007 12:42 PM PDT
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The SMG was better than the AR because it had a slightly higher rate of fire and I get the feeling it's a little more accurate. And duel wielding does a number.

  • 04.17.2007 1:30 PM PDT
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If there were duel wield able pistols the game would be hated quickly, it would be TOO unbalanced. Thats why it became the BR. Dude, normally you have pretty good grammar, are you stoned?

  • 04.17.2007 1:43 PM PDT
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If there were duel wield able pistols the game would be hated quickly, it would be TOO unbalanced. Thats why it became the BR. Dude, normally you have pretty good grammar, are you stoned?
Are you talking to ImSpartacus? His grammar, let alone punctuation, capitalization, and spelling, has always been atrocious at best.

MA5B = Battle Rifle
M6D = M6C Magnum

However, the M6D has been replaced by a weapon that follows function and form--the battle rifle. Although, technically, the BR55 is just a variant of the MA5B, it performs game play-wise much like the pistol in the first game.

  • 04.17.2007 2:01 PM PDT
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So he's not stoned? Just speaks a different language? I don't speak leet, my high school has yet to offer me a class.

  • 04.17.2007 2:05 PM PDT

It is people like you that make people like me need medication.

Yes as mentioned there is a pistol called the Magnum. It has no scope. I disagree on it's strength though. I feel that it is damn strong. Also I agree the Battle Rifle basically took the place of the pistol while the SMG took the place of the assault rifle.

Personally I missed the assault rifle in Halo 2. I was best with the assault rifle and found it not to be underpowered at all. I always got more kills with the assault rifle. The SMG is basically useless unless you are duel wielding it with another weapon. Well in my opinion it is.

  • 04.17.2007 2:15 PM PDT
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Allow me to educate you guys.

H1 pistol =/= H2 BR
H1 AR =/= H2 SMG

Now, before we get our panties in a twist, let's actually read what I have to say, eh? The BR is not a direct mirror of the H1 pistol. The BR has a different clip size, fires in three bursts, reloads slower, kills in four shots, and melees quicker. As far as the role the BR plays, then yes, it serves the same purpose as the H1 pistol.

Bungie designed the H1 pistol to be the "equalizer" weapon; a weapon that, after you were good enough at the game, you would generally lead to the most, as with the mastering of its use would prove very useful in PvP. While every other weapon can be harnessed in the same way, the H1 pistol could, in fact, render the other weapons useless. The pistol had more ups than downs than any other weapon in Halo 1. As such, it is believed that if everyone spawns with a pistol, then it's balanced play. Except that I'm sure Bungie wasn't exactly happy with the fact that there were generally three weapons people used the most; the rocket launcher, the sniper rifles, and the pistol, and then ignored pretty much everything else (except the shotty every once in a while). What they were looking to do in Halo 2 was to bring the same sort of formula over to their sequel, except not making it so everyone would resort to one weapon in the end.

The end result wasn't that bad, except just about everything else in the sequel was, thus bringing down their attempt to fix the game mechanics into a living nightmare. Where as they could've simply made the AR more accurate, they decided to implement dual wielding, and boy, did the implementation suck. We were given SMGs; we are fooled to believe that their rate of fire is, well, fast, except that it really isn't all that different from the AR after the trigger has been held down for long enough. Where as you could burst fire the AR with more accurate shots, you could do no such thing with the SMG. I don't think it really mattered anyways, especially with the ridiculous kick back. The weapon is generally useless without dual wielding it with something else anyways.

So, as you can see, the weapons are not the same at all. The BR might play the same role as the H1 pistol did, but the SMG does not for the AR. The SMG was generally more of a weapon that you frowned upon when you spawned with it, knowing you stood about as much chance as a snowman in hell did against those wielding anything else but the SMG or dual wielding something. At least if you knew how to use the AR you could stand a chance, but, then again, it really didn't matter, because, in most game settings in Halo 1, a normal spawn would detail with AR+Pistol, thus giving you an edge on those already around you.

Now, the question really is what will happen in Halo 3.

  • 04.17.2007 2:32 PM PDT