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Subject: Desolation is bad....very bad.

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Well for one I hate this map, it's just too small and the layout isn't all that great, then there's the whole vehicle thing. What were they thinking?! There is honestly no reason at all to put vehicles in this map. Last night I tried to for the first time, go in a hog, and expected there to be a gate somewhere leading outside to a big forest area, but nope, just another boring map. :(

  • 04.18.2007 7:27 AM PDT
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The best parts of Derelict were the darkness and cross map sniping. So they lit up the map like a Christmas tree and took out the sniper!? Stupid.

  • 04.18.2007 7:29 AM PDT
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I was playing this map with a couple of friends yesterday, and we thoroughly enjoyed it. We had "fun" just messing around. Maybe if you guys were to just play the map and not take it so seriously, you too can have "fun".

  • 04.18.2007 7:34 AM PDT
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Posted by: DEATHPIMP72
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I played Desolation yesterday with Zag, Crow, Chocobo, and a bunch of other guys for hours. If you haven't played 16 player zombies on Desolation yet, you are missing out on one of the most fun, epic battles I've ever played on Halo 2.

  • 04.18.2007 7:36 AM PDT
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Posted by: x Foman123 x
I played Desolation yesterday with Zag, Crow, Chocobo, and a bunch of other guys for hours. If you haven't played 16 player zombies on Desolation yet, you are missing out on one of the most fun, epic battles I've ever played on Halo 2.


Zombies on Tombstone may also be quite enjoyable. I can just imagine the handful of survivors camped up on the crane, waiting, watching the blood thirsty beasts down below, just trying to hold off death for a few more moments, but to no avail.

  • 04.18.2007 7:42 AM PDT

Im forced to agree. Desolation is bland and i dont enjoy it. There is not much to it. If it had a snipe, it would much improve gameplay. Sentinel beams? Seriously? 2 Overshields on BOTH maps released?

And tombstone has an excellent layout. 4 shotguns though? And im glad both teams have an equal chance at getting sword and sniper (rolls eyes)

  • 04.18.2007 7:44 AM PDT

"I'm a 40 in Team Spelling, but I have the most worstest time leveling up in Team Superlatives."

I was skeptical about this map going in, but it is a tad bigger than the original and the lifts and ramps really take out the worst parts of Derelict, portal campers. I am also very pleased with the way the weapons balanced out...even if someone has a Rocket or Sword, there are a ton of ways to handle them. I wish I had more hands, so I could give it 4 thumbs UP! (apologies to Dave Chappelle)

  • 04.18.2007 7:52 AM PDT

"I'm a 40 in Team Spelling, but I have the most worstest time leveling up in Team Superlatives."

The Sentinal beams are on Desolation specifically to counter those overshields. If you want to play snipers on it, get a custom going or wait until it is in the Snipers playlist. I think the weapons on the map are balanced very well.

  • 04.18.2007 7:54 AM PDT
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I love that there are only 2 Battle Rifles on Desolation. Everything is balence but it seems alot like Warlock.

  • 04.18.2007 7:56 AM PDT

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I was never a fan of Derelect, however I still will play this map. It reminds me of Warlock alot. And the Hogs, they certainly wont be in MM, however it is fun to get an infinite amount of em', I had 16 before it started to lag.

  • 04.18.2007 8:06 AM PDT
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They definately did mess up Desolation. IMO, it's way too big compared to Derelict. Plus, no snipers is lamesauce.

  • 04.18.2007 8:11 AM PDT

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you can also have vehicles on foundation and it doesnt made sense...

desolation is a cool map but two things i didnt liked were: no sniper and 2 OS i would like a camo instead of that os

  • 04.18.2007 8:48 AM PDT
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I was surprised that nothing moves! No moving trains, crates, or gates! In Tombstone I thought it would be cool to be able to turn the crane on..but no! Also these maps look fuzzy to me. Not as clean as the other maps. I would like to see a Banshee map. Something different, that requires a different strategy! Desolation seemed like sister map to Warlock! Also these maps are not vehicle maps and trashing a vehicle is fun! I did play snipers on Tombstone and it was very fun. At first I thought the columns were over-kill but then I realized that they provide pretty cool cover. I think they will be very useful in BR fights.

  • 04.18.2007 9:32 AM PDT
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Posted by: xXElite MouseXx
Well for one I hate this map, it's just too small and the layout isn't all that great, then there's the whole vehicle thing. What were they thinking?! There is honestly no reason at all to put vehicles in this map. Last night I tried to for the first time, go in a hog, and expected there to be a gate somewhere leading outside to a big forest area, but nope, just another boring map. :(


Small? Played a free for all with 8 people last night and had plenty of room to do your thing. Its a fast map, the original was. Hell half the maps out for H2 right now are prob smaller then desolation

  • 04.18.2007 9:34 AM PDT

the hog thing is wacky but besides thats its just another small fun map that was worth 4$
When i say small i dont mean warlock small.

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  • 04.18.2007 9:34 AM PDT

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  • 04.18.2007 9:37 AM PDT
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I thought it was fun. I think it is by far the best map for stickies. You can find a lot of em, and its just fun sticking people from across the map. As far as tombstone goes, I LOVE it! Everyone is getting mad about the snipe and sword. Who cares? You start off with BR anyways.

  • 04.18.2007 9:37 AM PDT
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I was a huge fan of Derelict when it started. but when someone got ontpo the top section all yu had to do was portal camp.
what i enjoy most about this map is that it is not made for MLG (i.e. BR start)
There are 2 BR spawns on this map which makes the BR a power weapon (which i hate starting with BR for the most part ne ways.)
If they are going to make the BR a power weapon on desolation than they should extend the spawn time for the BR. (i dont know what it is at right now btw)
Desolation is going to be VERY good for Team Skirmish games like CTF and Assault. granted it will be hard. it will be challenging. i LOVE the fact that its not BR start on Desolation. best thing they could have done. (and a good idea that this map is not in Hardcore (people would be complainging left and right))

As for Tombstone...the BR start on this map was just put in to emulate the H1 pistol "feel" the sort of. hardcore offense hardcore defensive modes that the teams had to engage in. It's definitely a team based map. (no more BK's)

and i'd be willing to bet that everyone that says these maps suck are people that think they are MLG pros and always has to have a BR in order to get kills.
i do enjoy BR start matches most of the time...but when you complain when you dont start with one...please people...c'mon. having a BR start negates ALL but two of the weapons on any given map...(rocket and sniper) why dont they just make it ROCKET spawns?
now...on a map like Warlock...where there are 4 BR's ANYWAYS...BR start is a smart thing...because unlike Desolation...The team that grabs the BR's first (with no br start) will just keep on picking up more ammo; where if it was BR start each team has a fighting chance and it becomes less about spawning people.

I can't wait for the Assault Rifle start in H3. but i gaurentee that whatever weapons is the new "H1 pistol" or "BR" its going to be put into the hands of every person when they spawn...and people will call it "MLG" (I hope they nerf the BR a TAD bit in H3...or make EVERY weapon in the game useful in many situations (even the needler))

Sorry for my rant...but, thats my 2 cents.

  • 04.18.2007 9:52 AM PDT
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Posted by: AnimalBuckeye
The best parts of Derelict were the darkness and cross map sniping. So they lit up the map like a Christmas tree and took out the sniper!? Stupid.


maybe cuz the sniper doesn't have night vision in Halo 2. fool.

  • 04.18.2007 10:16 AM PDT

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Posted by: halo is ok
I was playing this map with a couple of friends yesterday, and we thoroughly enjoyed it. We had "fun" just messing around. Maybe if you guys were to just play the map and not take it so seriously, you too can have "fun".

EXACTLY!

  • 04.18.2007 10:18 AM PDT
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if you're on top of the map it's managable............but whenever I found myself on the ground floor, I was instantly lost. It's gonna take some getting used to.

  • 04.18.2007 10:20 AM PDT
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this map definetly rocks for 16 player crazy king

  • 04.18.2007 10:26 AM PDT
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The map rocks! It's NOT a sniper map. Learn to do something else.

  • 04.18.2007 10:28 AM PDT
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Desolation sucks. The layout is unimpressive, the weapon placement and armors are horrible (2 OS for such a small map? the return of the (unimproved) SENTINEL BEAM?!?!?!). I guess ill have a better feel for the map once its included in MM, but basing my opinion on the few custom games I played yesterday, I'm UNIMPRESSED. (Tombstone rocks, though...)

  • 04.18.2007 10:31 AM PDT
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That's just your opinion. I happen to like the smaller maps. More up close combat. It's just a personal preference. I hate the large maps when all you have to do is hide with a sniper to rack up kills. Too easy.

  • 04.18.2007 10:36 AM PDT

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