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Posted by: DEATHPIMP72
Anyone but Foman. He smells like cheese.

Posted by: Glov3 Ed
Your error was believing that anyone immature enough to get banned for spamming would be intelligent enough, even when teamed with 50 or so like mined people, to formulate a 'spam plan' that is of any major inconvenience to any of us.

That's not an error. It's happened before on these very forums -- on the other hand, they are not very effective.

So I still disagree that groups should be removed because of it.

[Edited on 04.24.2007 1:09 PM PDT]

  • 04.24.2007 10:34 AM PDT

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1. I can easily see anything that goes on in a group (all group privacy is an illusion).
2. Spam attacks are funny. People have to spend lots of time building up the necessary accounts and dealing with the posting limits... and the moderators can make them all disappear with a few clicks. Given the ease of such removal, it seems the advantages of having sub-communities such as groups outweigh what the spammers can do.

Posted by: masterchief200
I know a reason why groups should be removed:

Banned users can plot for a spam attack.

(Seriously} I know groups dedicated for this.

  • 04.24.2007 10:43 AM PDT
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Posted by: Achronos
I can easily see anything that goes on in a group (all group privacy is an illusion).


Now I know what "He's Watching You " means. :(

  • 04.24.2007 10:48 AM PDT
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Posted by: DEATHPIMP72
Anyone but Foman. He smells like cheese.

Posted by: Achronos
1. I can easily see anything that goes on in a group (all group privacy is an illusion).

Oh no!

*wishes he had deleted group dedicated to nude pictures of Foman*

  • 04.24.2007 10:52 AM PDT
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Posted by: x Foman123 x
Posted by: Achronos
1. I can easily see anything that goes on in a group (all group privacy is an illusion).

Oh no!

*wishes he had deleted group dedicated to nude pictures of Foman*


Now we know what the next public forum will be.

  • 04.24.2007 10:59 AM PDT

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1. I can easily see anything that goes on in a group (all group privacy is an illusion).


Not that anyone thought he was lying, but I can vouch for this.

Now if we could only get to the bottom of the MTR controversy.

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Posted by: Achronos
I can easily see anything that goes on in a group (all group privacy is an illusion).


Now I know what "He's Watching You " means. :(


Achronos is all-powerful here. Any efforts by spammers are futile.

Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated into the Bungie collective.

  • 04.24.2007 11:31 AM PDT

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My gamertag is SHADOWRIDERJP.

I remember when I was a mod in "Teh L9." Everyone thought we were some evil spam group. We had a bad rep. It was my job to do damage control because I have never been blacklisted and was only in the group because I knew people before Bungie.net there.

Spam attacks are foolish, dumb, and immature. I took great pride in cleaning out L9 of those people. It still had a bad rep I could never fix though, so I left.

Don't think groups are bad because of "spam attacks" they can easily be seen and the offenders stopped. Groups have many good purposes and I can not wait till they are back.

[Edited on 04.24.2007 12:39 PM PDT]

  • 04.24.2007 12:39 PM PDT

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Oh please the spammers are no reason to trash the Chapters!

I delt with a person the created 20 threads and quiote a few posts and it took about 5 minutes to clear them. Would have taken less if I opened more windows.

  • 04.24.2007 1:35 PM PDT

Well you could probably organize such things on the PM system to, mabye that should be taken away [sarcasm]

Groups arent evil, some people who use them are. Their are many different ways to organize things, and deleting groups is not the way to fix it.

[Edited on 04.24.2007 1:51 PM PDT]

  • 04.24.2007 1:44 PM PDT
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Posted by: Achronos
1. I can easily see anything that goes on in a group (all group privacy is an illusion).


Not that anyone thought he was lying, but I can vouch for this.

Now if we could only get to the bottom of the MTR controversy.


Or as Bungie likes to call it..."the thread which shall not be named."

  • 04.24.2007 1:45 PM PDT

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So you monitored the group i was in?

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Posted by: masterchief200
So you monitored the group i was in?


Achronos is a peeping tom at heart :D

  • 04.24.2007 2:33 PM PDT
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Tact is for those who aren't witty enough to be sarcastic.

No use cryin' over Spillt Milk

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Posted by: masterchief200
So you monitored the group i was in?


Achronos is a peeping tom at heart :D


I'm sure it's only coincidence that his name is Tom.

  • 04.24.2007 3:18 PM PDT
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I put up with foolish members who think they can takeover other people groups and when they are dumb enough to expose themseleves I PM Achronos and he takes care of them a good example would be a former member "Master Yodel" he decided he wanted to come and take over several groups/chapters and Achronos took care of him Banhammer style.

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Posted by: Achronos
1. I can easily see anything that goes on in a group (all group privacy is an illusion).


Even on the toilet?!

  • 04.24.2007 4:12 PM PDT

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Posted by: Achronos
1. I can easily see anything that goes on in a group (all group privacy is an illusion).
2. Spam attacks are funny. People have to spend lots of time building up the necessary accounts and dealing with the posting limits... and the moderators can make them all disappear with a few clicks. Given the ease of such removal, it seems the advantages of having sub-communities such as groups outweigh what the spammers can do.

Posted by: masterchief200
I know a reason why groups should be removed:

Banned users can plot for a spam attack.


(Seriously} I know groups dedicated for this.


ka-pwned. lol. groups shouldnt be removed just because a bunch of little kids decide they want to run around screaming their -blam!-ity to the world... its their choice lol.


[Edited on 04.24.2007 4:13 PM PDT]

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Posted by: Achronos
1. I can easily see anything that goes on in a group (all group privacy is an illusion).

...That made me smile for reasons that only a few here will understand.

In any case, Spammers don't usually work in groups. At least, that's been my personal experience. The work alone and usually do it for thrills and to get a reaction from the crowd...and no matter how many times it happens, the members always give them the attention they want. If you want to get rid of Spammers, don't get rid of groups, just stop paying attention to them.

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Posted by: squirrel dude
Then we should get rid of the flood and the underground because everyone spams, there, but we should also get rid of the halo 3 forum because people just spam the same theory over and over again, dont forget the septagon, always complaining about something...

You can't punish everyone becuase of a couple of -blam!-s.

Not true. Example: [color=red]I love pancakes[/color] and [hr]

  • 04.24.2007 7:40 PM PDT

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Posted by: twinkiemaker
Posted by: Achronos
1. I can easily see anything that goes on in a group (all group privacy is an illusion).


Not that anyone thought he was lying, but I can vouch for this.

Now if we could only get to the bottom of the MTR controversy.


Or as Bungie likes to call it..."the thread which shall not be named."


There was no controversy, Shishka was jealous of the love we gave to MTR and not him. There was enough love for everyone Shishka, why could you not see that? Now come on over here and let uncle weggie give you a noogie.

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Posted by: squirrel dude
Then we should get rid of the flood and the underground because everyone spams, there, but we should also get rid of the halo 3 forum because people just spam the same theory over and over again, dont forget the septagon, always complaining about something...

You can't punish everyone becuase of a couple of -blam!-s.

Not true. Example: [color=red]I love pancakes[/color] and [hr]


something's worth taking away when everyone begins to abuse it. though i didn't see the [hr] really being abused... oh well.

I've seen the worst of groups. been in them. it does NOTHING to you. the only thing a group is worth is the title it reserves. the information cannot be concealed. all groups have equal features. all groups can do the same thing. but no groups can have the same name. so that's the only thing a group is worth. that's my conclusion. that doesn't mean they're useless, but they're not valuable. people are. members are. so don't give Full Control. as long as the group isn't deleted, it doesn't matter. although i'd be picky on who to allow to delete stuff, anything. that's why things should just be locked, not deleted.

  • 04.24.2007 10:02 PM PDT

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speaking of groups, has a date been announced as to when they will come back online? im getting bored with all of the stupid posts about nothing in every single forum.... 5 of the same thing pops up everytime frankie says anything... id much rather just have group forums back then the beta, cuse im not getting it anyway.

  • 04.25.2007 8:40 AM PDT
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Posted by: rifle wizard
speaking of groups, has a date been announced as to when they will come back online? im getting bored with all of the stupid posts about nothing in every single forum.... 5 of the same thing pops up everytime frankie says anything... id much rather just have group forums back then the beta, cuse im not getting it anyway.


The only leak I have heard is that groups will arrive before the Pimps at Sea collectors edition. Achronos vaguely said a few weeks or months.

  • 04.25.2007 9:04 AM PDT
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Ya know, there's two faces to every coin. In the case of groups, I've seen the extremes of both sides. There are some VERY retarded people in groups. I can attest to that. But, they aren't a very big deal. Only to those who make it a big deal. The vast majority of groups are just fine.

  • 04.25.2007 10:20 AM PDT
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Are the groups ever going to be back up anyway?

ps: Group forum > public forum :P

  • 04.25.2007 2:37 PM PDT

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