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Subject: Will you buy VIsta just to play Halo 2 Vista?
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Posted by: PanchoBelt
Look. There is no reason to get Vista, unless you purchased your computer with an upgrade. If you wanna play Halo 2, buy an XBOX360 and halo 2, instead of buying a $300 OS, or whatever the cost is. Bottom line is that you get everything that this guy above is saying. What Mr.Nick isn't telling you is all the c*** that you get with every bonus. Let me go down the list as a Vista owner since a few months ago, because Dell was slow in sending my free upgrade.

Well he said the reasons why he GOT vista, not why it was good. Why wouldn't I buy a 360 and play halo 2 on there? Because pc graphics> than x-box. Vista+ h2v= 170 if you get basic. 360 plus halo 2? 320-420? So getting vista and h2v is cheaper than getting 360=halo2, and pc is better too.


Are you insane? First of all, I explained in great detail why I got it, and why I like, and why I don't like it. Secondly, while the pc graphics are better for Halo 2, Halo 3 is coming out later in the fall, so are you honestly going to buy Vista for a three year old game, when the new version is coming out in six months? I have no idea where you came up with Vista + H2V = 170. The Vista Premium, which is a standard for gamers, is $250 + $50 H2V = $300. The 360 is something like $250(Xbox360) + $20(H2) = $270. So, I see absolutely no reason to get Vista if you arent getting it for free or with a new computer.

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Posted by: Recoton007
Halo 3 is coming out later in the fall, so are you honestly going to buy Vista for a three year old game, when the new version is coming out in six months?
Halo 3 is not Halo 2, plus some of us haven't played Halo 2 before. They might want to find out the storyline for themselves before they jump into Halo 3.

Posted by: Recoton007
I have no idea where you came up with Vista + H2V = 170. The Vista Premium, which is a standard for gamers, is $250 + $50 H2V = $300.
Actually, Windows Vista Home Premium is anywhere from one-hundred to two-hundred dollars. $250 is a rip-off.

Posted by: Recoton007
The 360 is something like $250(Xbox360) + $20(H2) = $270. So, I see absolutely no reason to get Vista if you arent getting it for free or with a new computer.
Now this just made me lol, the Xbox 360 is actually $300.00 if you get the crappy core version (which won't even let you play original Xbox titles due to its lack the hard drive needed to play backwards compatible games), or $400.00 if you buy the Premium pack. Don't forget the fifty dollars a year necessary to play on Xbox Live. Thus, you'd pay more for a 360, a Live subscription, and Halo 2 than you would for getting Windows Vista and Halo 2 PC.

Nice try, though.

  • 04.30.2007 7:22 PM PDT
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Posted by: Master Kim
Halo 3 is not Halo 2, plus some of us haven't played Halo 2 before. They might want to find out the storyline for themselves before they jump into Halo 3.

While I completely agree with you, and I am in fact someone who is getting H2V because I have never played Halo2, I have Vista and not the Xbox, and I dont intend to get one, anytime soon.

Posted by: Master Kim
Actually, Windows Vista Home Premium is anywhere from one-hundred to two-hundred dollars. $250 is a rip-off.

Oh don't get me wrong, I know its a rip off. But you have to admit that $250 is the standard retail value. I forgot that you need to buy the expensive $400 version to use backwards compatibility. but nevertheless, my point is strong and clear. Why would anyone spend so much money on a new OS that is expensive and not that much of an improvement from XP, just to buy H2V.

Posted by: Master Kim
Now this just made me lol, the Xbox 360 is actually $300.00 if you get the crappy core version (which won't even let you play original Xbox titles due to its lack the hard drive needed to play backwards compatible games), or $400.00 if you buy the Premium pack. Don't forget the fifty dollars a year necessary to play on Xbox Live. Thus, you'd pay more for a 360, a Live subscription, and Halo 2 than you would for getting Windows Vista and Halo 2 PC.

Well, if you want to factor in the Live subscription sure. You would pay an additional $50 for Games for Windows Live Gold.

Look, I'm not against H2V, but I just feel that someone shouldn't spend SOOO much money on "an XP theme," for a three year old game. My suggestion, if you don't have H2 or Vista, go to a friend's house and play it. Don't waste your money on Vista. it's not refined yet, still alittle buggy, and DEFINITELY NOT WORTH IT.

I think I made my point clear this time. It's less about which would be cheaper and more cost efficient, more about which is the better option.

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Recoton, have you even played Halo 1 PC? Do you know what the HEK is?

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I'd rather not because first off, Vista is so big few can even install it on their comps with their current HD space. Add to that the fact that it seriously hurts the performance of your comp, expecially in online gaming. Plus, i don't want it anyway; to buy it just to play Halo 2 would be a waste. Especially since I might get a 360 for my B-day =]

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Posted by: DIF bunny
I'd rather not because first off, Vista is so big few can even install it on their comps with their current HD space.

This was a joke, right? The age of 40GB hard drives are over; mine has a 250GB capacity.

Add to that the fact that it seriously hurts the performance of your comp, expecially in online gaming.
Do you know what the definition of a fact is? Not what you've just told us, for starters. Yeah, it will seriously hurt your computer performance, if you have a crappy computer. Then again, if you have a crappy computer, what do you expect?

Plus, i don't want it anyway; to buy it just to play Halo 2 would be a waste. Especially since I might get a 360 for my B-day =]
You mean to buy it to play a game and how it should've been plus with the HEK? Oh, and free online play too?

And c'mon, get real; you're acting like as if you'll never upgrade. It's inevitable. This was exactly what happened when XP came out; all the 2000 users were going on about how "OMIGOSH WE'LL NEVER UPGRADE!" Yeah, that lasted.

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Posted by: DIF bunny
Vista is so big few can even install it on their comps with their current HD space. ]


I dunno , it'll fit quite happily into my... *goes off to work it out...* 1974Gb hard drive space ;)

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YES MORON!!!! -blam!- i got me a whole new computer all together for halo2 vista and i have a new graphics card for halo2 vista.

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Posted by: Recoton007
Well, if you want to factor in the Live subscription sure. You would pay an additional $50 for Games for Windows Live Gold.
No, I don't think you got it. $300 is the cost of a core pack and $400 is the cost of a premium pack alone. Adding in an Xbox Live Gold subscription would make it $350 or $450.

You don't need a Gold subscription to play online on Vista like you do on the Xbox anyway.

Posted by: Recoton007
Look, I'm not against H2V, but I just feel that someone shouldn't spend SOOO much money on "an XP theme," for a three year old game.
"An XP theme"? Are you kidding me? I'm at a loss for words.

I do agree on that last part, though, getting an operating system to find a three-year-old port is stupid.

Posted by: Recoton007
My suggestion, if you don't have H2 or Vista, go to a friend's house and play it. Don't waste your money on Vista. it's not refined yet, still alittle buggy, and DEFINITELY NOT WORTH IT.
Okay, but it's not like it's going to stay that way forever...

Posted by: Recoton007
I think I made my point clear this time. It's less about which would be cheaper and more cost efficient, more about which is the better option.
Indeed, getting Windows Vista is clearly the better option.

[Edited on 05.01.2007 12:27 PM PDT]

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Posted by: Agamemnon582bc
Recoton, have you even played Halo 1 PC? Do you know what the HEK is?
Yes, I play Halo 1 PC, as a matter a fact, I played it an hour before posting this. I have beaten that game, and I have played the multiplayer mod. Oh btw The HEK is the Halo Editing Kit, so I know WTF I'm talking about.

Posted by: Master Kim
"An XP theme"? Are you kidding me? I'm at a loss for words.

Perhaps I'm over exaggerating. My point is, its not worth the price. To keep my argument concise.
Posted by: Master Kim
Okay, but it's not like it's going to stay that way forever...

Of course Vista will get better, but as of right now, there is no reason to upgrade. By paying for Vista just to get H2V, you are falling into a giant scam created by Microsoft, to boost the sales of Vista.

Posted by: Master Kim
Indeed, getting Windows Vista is clearly the better option.

I believe I made my point clear, and you cutting out most of my argument, and selectively piecing together excerpts to twist my words is just wrong. Bottomline: If you buy Vista because you want to upgrade your computer, GO AHEAD.
If you buy Vista because you want to play H2V, YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!!
I have Vista because I got a free upgrade. If I didn't get the free upgrade, I would have never have even considered getting it or H2V. Because as you said by agreeing with some of my statements, you agree that Vista is "not refined yet, still alittle buggy, and DEFINITELY NOT WORTH IT." To this your response is "Well its not going to stay like this forever :(."
Look here, if I sold you a bag of s*** (not that vista is a bag of s*** at all, but I'm trying to make an exaggerated point) for $300 bucks, saying it will eventually be high-grade fertilizer, wouldn't you wait until it IS fertilizer, rather than rocking in your chair back and forth, waiting for the company to feel sorry for you and finally fix the product. ACCORDING TO YOU, YOU WOULD RATHER HAVE THE BAG OF S***!

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Posted by: Recoton007
If you buy Vista because you want to play H2V, YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!!
Agreed.

Posted by: Recoton007
Posted by: Master Kim
"An XP theme"? Are you kidding me? I'm at a loss for words.

Perhaps I'm over exaggerating. My point is, its not worth the price. To keep my argument concise.
An operating system isn't just some fancy user interface. If you think Windows Vista is simply a cosmetic variant of Windows XP, you're wrong. I don't even feel like explaining it.

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Posted by: Recoton007
Posted by: Master Kim
Halo 3 is not Halo 2, plus some of us haven't played Halo 2 before. They might want to find out the storyline for themselves before they jump into Halo 3.

While I completely agree with you, and I am in fact someone who is getting H2V because I have never played Halo2, I have Vista and not the Xbox, and I dont intend to get one, anytime soon.

Posted by: Master Kim
Actually, Windows Vista Home Premium is anywhere from one-hundred to two-hundred dollars. $250 is a rip-off.

Oh don't get me wrong, I know its a rip off. But you have to admit that $250 is the standard retail value. I forgot that you need to buy the expensive $400 version to use backwards compatibility. but nevertheless, my point is strong and clear. Why would anyone spend so much money on a new OS that is expensive and not that much of an improvement from XP, just to buy H2V.

Posted by: Master Kim
Now this just made me lol, the Xbox 360 is actually $300.00 if you get the crappy core version (which won't even let you play original Xbox titles due to its lack the hard drive needed to play backwards compatible games), or $400.00 if you buy the Premium pack. Don't forget the fifty dollars a year necessary to play on Xbox Live. Thus, you'd pay more for a 360, a Live subscription, and Halo 2 than you would for getting Windows Vista and Halo 2 PC.

Well, if you want to factor in the Live subscription sure. You would pay an additional $50 for Games for Windows Live Gold.

Look, I'm not against H2V, but I just feel that someone shouldn't spend SOOO much money on "an XP theme," for a three year old game. My suggestion, if you don't have H2 or Vista, go to a friend's house and play it. Don't waste your money on Vista. it's not refined yet, still alittle buggy, and DEFINITELY NOT WORTH IT.

I think I made my point clear this time. It's less about which would be cheaper and more cost efficient, more about which is the better option.

1. So you are... encouraging other people not to get it even though you did and can't bring up a legit point as to why not?
2. Vista HP Upgrade is $159 RETAIL. And you can easily find it for less.
3. You don't need the $400 version for backwards compatibility.
4. The OS is a HUGE improvement over XP. I can say that as an early-on beta tester. I've used the OS for over a year.
5. You have to pay for live on the XBOX too. And it isn't optional there either. At least on PC you can play multiplayer for free.
6. Since when do XP themes support hardware acceleration?
7. If $425 is cheaper than $209.... Well...

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Posted by: MrNick01
1. So you are... encouraging other people not to get it even though you did and can't bring up a legit point as to why not?


WRONG, I'm encouraging people to buy the OS if they have money to waste, or if they are getting a new computer anyway. DON't GET IT PURELY FOR H2V!!!!

Posted by: MrNick01
2. Vista HP Upgrade is $159 RETAIL. And you can easily find it for less.


To those who are getting a new computer, the OS costs $250 for the home premium. I don't recommend you spend any money on the OS, if you dont wanna waste your money.

Posted by: MrNick01
3. You don't need the $400 version for backwards compatibility.


$400 for what? Vista or the 360? I'm confused.

Posted by: MrNick01
4. The OS is a HUGE improvement over XP. I can say that as an early-on beta tester. I've used the OS for over a year.


HAHAHA. It's a skin, and is good for the forementioned reasons. I don't feel the need to quote my previous posts, because I assume you read the first page where I gave an anaylsis of Vista. XP is a huge improvment, Vista IS NOT. Its a skin. That's it, oh and it has some nice fixes, but they arent worth the cost.

Posted by: MrNick01
5. You have to pay for live on the XBOX too. And it isn't optional there either. At least on PC you can play multiplayer for free.

But while you pay more on Xboxlive, you get a lot of bonus stuff that you dont get for free with GFW:Live silver.

Posted by: MrNick01
6. Since when do XP themes support hardware acceleration?


Look, don't get into this technical stuff. I can nitpick too, but I'm not like that. I'm saying that Vista looks nice, and thats the key thing that you're paying for

Posted by: MrNick01
7. If $425 is cheaper than $209.... Well...

Lets look at it this way. When you buy a computer, you pay over a $1000 bucks for the videocard, extra ram, processor, monitor, etc. When you buy a XBOX360, you get the whole package for less than half the price. You are forgetting the part where the Xbox360 probably has a better videocard than you, and a better processor than you, and more ram than you, and maybe the same amount of harddrive as you. So if you wanna go into technicals, please, I'm giving you a jist of what I think. And if you don't agree, then go ahead SPEND ALL OF YOUR MONEY ON VISTA, and P*** your cash down the toilet into a stupid less then spectacular OS.

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Posted by: Recoton007
If you buy Vista because you want to play H2V, YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!!
Agreed.

Posted by: Recoton007
Posted by: Master Kim
"An XP theme"? Are you kidding me? I'm at a loss for words.

Perhaps I'm over exaggerating. My point is, its not worth the price. To keep my argument concise.
An operating system isn't just some fancy user interface. If you think Windows Vista is simply a cosmetic variant of Windows XP, you're wrong. I don't even feel like explaining it.


I know the OS is not just a fancy interface, but that IS the big thing microsoft is puching, the whole nice aero look of VISTA. I believe that Vista is in fact more than a "cosmetic variant of Windows XP", but I also feel that you are hardly getting your money's worth. And don't worry, you don't need to explain a thing, I have it, I know just about every new aspect of it. I don't feel its worth it, or rather I don't feel its smart for anyone to buy the new OS just for H2V.

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Posted by: Recoton007
Posted by: MrNick01
4. The OS is a HUGE improvement over XP. I can say that as an early-on beta tester. I've used the OS for over a year.


HAHAHA. It's a skin, and is good for the forementioned reasons. I don't feel the need to quote my previous posts, because I assume you read the first page where I gave an anaylsis of Vista. XP is a huge improvment, Vista IS NOT. Its a skin. That's it, oh and it has some nice fixes, but they arent worth the cost.
Fail.

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Indeed. I am quite done with arguing. It's getting nowhere and you're pretty hopeless. (@Recoton007)

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Slaying noobs since 2007.

Fail.

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I'm just giving you my honest opinion based on fact, hell, even microsoft doesn't expect the Vista to sell well during the first year, because it really isn't much of an improvement. It seems too much like Microsoft playing catchup with Apple's Tiger, and btw, I hear that Apple is coming out with a new OS "Panther." I don't know much about it though.

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* EDIT *
Yea... nevermind. Don't want to start a flamewar...

[Edited on 05.01.2007 4:18 PM PDT]

  • 05.01.2007 4:15 PM PDT

Slaying noobs since 2007.

You might want to turn your hearing aid off before you get MASSIVELY flamed.

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Posted By: Recon 54

Acting like pre and post pubescent idiots who feel confident behind Internet anonymity? Even though it's applicable to the majority of our members, we ask that they not do that here.

I chipped in a few extra hours. I now triple boot Ubuntu (Linux [open-source]), Windows XP, and Vista. This way when somebody tells me "If you hate Vista so much why have it," I can say, "Because I have Win Xp on the same machine," and if they say, "If you hate Microsoft Operating Systems so much why have them?" I'd say, "Because I can triple boot XP, Vista, and Ubuntu." I use XP for work, Vista for betas and releases as well as map editing for H2V, and Ubuntu I just installed because I saw that dell was going to offer it up on their newest desktops.

I don't complain anymore because now I boot all of the OSs I wanted on my comp.. It took 20 min (not counting installation). If your complaining, and have a copy of Xp and Vista, just triple boot. Its a lot easier than having to explain to either the Window fanboy/opensource community why you're running one OS and not the other.

PM me if you need help.

  • 05.01.2007 4:20 PM PDT

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time. I know who you are. You are destiny.

Not planning.

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I Dint just get vista i also Upgraded to a ATI X1950 pro Vid card so it would look nice :)))

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Posted by: PanchoBelt
Look. There is no reason to get Vista, unless you purchased your computer with an upgrade. If you wanna play Halo 2, buy an XBOX360 and halo 2, instead of buying a $300 OS, or whatever the cost is. Bottom line is that you get everything that this guy above is saying. What Mr.Nick isn't telling you is all the c*** that you get with every bonus. Let me go down the list as a Vista owner since a few months ago, because Dell was slow in sending my free upgrade.

Well he said the reasons why he GOT vista, not why it was good. Why wouldn't I buy a 360 and play halo 2 on there? Because pc graphics> than x-box. Vista+ h2v= 170 if you get basic. 360 plus halo 2? 320-420? So getting vista and h2v is cheaper than getting 360=halo2, and pc is better too.


Are you insane? First of all, I explained in great detail why I got it, and why I like, and why I don't like it. Secondly, while the pc graphics are better for Halo 2, Halo 3 is coming out later in the fall, so are you honestly going to buy Vista for a three year old game, when the new version is coming out in six months? I have no idea where you came up with Vista + H2V = 170. The Vista Premium, which is a standard for gamers, is $250 + $50 H2V = $300. The 360 is something like $250(Xbox360) + $20(H2) = $270. So, I see absolutely no reason to get Vista if you arent getting it for free or with a new computer.


First, a 360 is 300, and it's 400 for a hard drive, or even 470 for an elite. Second of all, I never said I was buying vista just for halo 2. How did I get vista plus h2v=70? The oem is 130, so actually it would be 180 but still. Premium isn't the lowest you can go either. I have a computer that will handle vista or h2v, so I don't need a new pc. Do a little more research next time you say something to criticize a product. Yes Halo 3 is coming out soon, but we don't know if it will actually will be good, we can only assume.

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the more economical choice is clearly on pc,i dont have the money right now to pay 450+ to play h2 when i can get vista premium and h2v for around 210 ro cheaper,and the pc graphics are way better than the xbox.

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