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Subject: Mjolnir? What exactly does that mean?
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Both the Marathon Cyborg and the Halo Cyborg have armor named
after Mjolnir, but I think there could be more to it than simple winks
to fans of Marathon.

****SPOILERS****(I haven't finished the entire game yet, so please
use spoiler tags when discussing any part of the story)

There is a scene in Halo 2 where the Master Chief is taken in by
what appears to be a giant sea creature that thinks of himself as
a monument of sin. This creature is a lot like Leviathan, or
Jormungand, which is a universal symobl of evil, hence "sin."
In Norse Myth, Thor, (with his hammer Mjolnir) will destory the
evil serpent at the end of the universe.

What really puzzles me is why Bungie used the name Mjolnir for
the Marathon Cyborg. The scene in Halo 2 hit me like a brick it
was so clear, but it seems much less obvious in Marathon, or I'm
looking at it the wrong way. Thoughts?

As I said, I haven't quite finished the game quite yet, so I'll be
back when I have absorbed the ending. (Legendary is quite the
bee-hotch)


EDIT:
Okay, okay, I know you guys are tired of me making Marathon
connections when there is apparently no point, but something
the sea-monster said was "This is not your grave, but you are
welcome in it."(I think/hope that's what he said)
This suggests the creature has been dead before, but if
Jormungand is dead, does that mean that Mjolnir has already
slain it, and the universe has been destroyed once before?

[Edited on 11/13/2004 4:28:10 PM]

  • 11.13.2004 4:22 PM PDT
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I think that Bungie has masterminded some insanely ingenious plot where, although some are seemingly incongruous, all these references to mythology and ancient history will come together in Bungie's final game (whenever that may be), and make such sense that you will smack yourself in the head for not seeing it earlier. Seriously, from washing machines falling on peoples heads, the bodies of dead soldiers being used to create cyborgs, **cough**Sgt. Eddings**cough**, something, some vital key, some ICON (get it?), will provide the answer, and sweep through our collective minds much as Halo's "Divine Wind" would rush through the galaxy. I don't know, call me crazy, just don't call me Tycho.

  • 11.13.2004 8:23 PM PDT

Read the books, they explain it more there.

  • 11.13.2004 8:54 PM PDT
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Wow, preaty deep man.

  • 11.13.2004 8:55 PM PDT
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All I know is that Mjolnir is also the name of Thors axe in Norse Mythology. At least I think it is.

  • 11.13.2004 11:45 PM PDT

MJOLNIR -- pronounced M - yol ' - nur
The famous HAMMER of the Norse god Thor. It was a mystical weapon that was Thor's greatest ally. Legend takes Mjolnir to a near god-like status itself, just as a hammer.

  • 11.14.2004 1:25 PM PDT
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I like that idea TrigPanda. So many references in the stories match,
but the games themselves do not. Maybe what we're seeing in
Halo 2 is a more obvious version of the symbolism given to us
in Marathon. The W'rkncacnter can also be seen as a kind of evil
embodiment, making the Mjolnir reference fit more in the Marathon
story alone, rather than making all these cross references. (although
it is fun)
I still can't help but wonder why Bungie would use the same symbols
for games that are supposedly in entirely different "universes."


********SPOILERS**********



I just finished the game today, and I loved the ending. Looks like
Cortana could be trouble. How do you spell that again?

  • 11.14.2004 7:14 PM PDT

Mjolnir is Dr. Katherine Hasleys ground breaking creation, mjolnir is the hammer used by the norse god thor, w/ out it thor was as normal as any other man. thor could throw the hammer and due to its magical powers it would return after contact w/ the target. the mjolnir armor is just as important to the spartans as their phisical augmentations

  • 11.14.2004 7:25 PM PDT