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Subject: Should Bungie.net members choose the moderators?
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It is clear that the current system of choosing moderators is flawed. Achronos trusts the moderators to recommend new candidates for moderator positions to him. However, the moderators represent such a minority on this site that it is in question whether or not the moderators are capable of choosing new moderators without only serving their own selfish needs. Therefore, a change is needed.

All Bungie.net members should have a say in who gets to become a moderator. The question of how can be answered with the upcoming karma system that Achronos claims to be working on. Every member should have a "popular support" rating that is visible to all members. Other members can then vote for or against any member they choose. A percentage can then be displayed of the other members supporting said member. For example, a user that has one person against them and two people for them would have a popular support rating of approximately 67%.

Now how can this help to choose moderators? Well when a member's popular support rating gets high enough, to I'd say about 85% with a signifcant number of votes (say 1000) then that member is automatically made a moderator due to public demand. But what if that member starts to go crazy with his new power? Members will be allowed to change their stance on members in order to keep them in check. If a moderator's popular support rating drops below say 60% then that moderator will lose his powers.

This same method can also help get rid of unwanted users. If a member's rating drops below a certain number, about 10% with at least 1000 votes, then that member will be automatically permanently banned from the forums.

Higher popular support ratings can also lead to higher ranks, such as becoming a Master Forum Ninja once one has reached 95%, and becoming a Superuser when one's rating has reached around 98%. When a member becomes a Superuser, he is above the rules and cannot be banned.

I sincerely hope that Bungie implements this wonderful idea as it would help keep unruly members in check and will create a better selection process for moderators.

  • 05.07.2007 8:31 PM PDT

Posted by: WolfmanMaverick
You people have just sent my sides into orbit. A bunch of MLG try hards sucking the dick of some supposed pro half the thread hasn't even heard of. Classic.

Wow. I almost do not know where to begin. The system you have proposed would be abused more than a government mule. With the way accounts can be created on this site people would make many alts to boost who they wanted in power and keep them there. Also can you imaging if somebody made a post and then somebody made a counterpoint against them? All they would do is then turn around and get their friends or alts to get the persons rating dropped to get them banned.This system really gives the moderator no real powers anyway. As soon as as they enforce the rules they will be drummed out of office and replaced.

To clarify not only do the moderators make suggestions but then the people are screened. In the end Achronos has the final say. So he picks the people that have proven themselves trust worthy.

Why does the election part of Gangs of New York keep going through my head when I think of this idea?

  • 05.07.2007 8:43 PM PDT
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So...you trust the average member to pick who's best for the position of Moderator?

First of all, popularity is an arbitrary concept. Twitch and Davester were popular for being huge Spammers. Obbiquiet was popular for convincing nearly all the members that he was a girl. (Face it kids, he's a guy.) I have no doubt that those people, with the possible exception of Davester, would have been voted as extremely popular. And I can also assure you that none of them are fit for the job. I'm not trying to act like a know it all or anything...it's just a fact.

I don't think there's a better way than to let the Mods choose who joins their ranks. It adds a sense of cohesiveness and trust amongst the Mods when they are the ones who decide which members take on the job as opposed to having popular members suddenly pop up in their group without their knowledge.

No, in my opinion, the number of worthy popular members are too few for this to be a good implementation. Or maybe I just want to be a jerk.

  • 05.07.2007 8:45 PM PDT
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NO!

  • 05.07.2007 8:55 PM PDT
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I'm not going to dismantle your whole post because I have a tendency to get angrier and angrier when dealing with obstinant threads. I would basically get to the end of your post and just blacklist you instead of replying.

Anyway; nice use of facts, your evidence is employed BRILLIANTLY to back up your claims.


Oh and I have been called corrupt so many times by this community that if that community ran the show, instead of myself, who would they be able to blame on being corrupt? Imagine a soap operah without a scheming twin brother? Boring. The forum needs our underhanded evils and out of control corruption or else they would be very bored.

Also, I said last week to my friends "I wonder who will make the next 'mods suck' thread in the Septagon? We will be due again soon." You take the prize!


EDIT: Sorry to be such a corrupt jerk here, guys, but every single month these threads pop up. They hang around for a few days casuing greif and division among the community and the Ninja's. I am going to risk being called corrupt (go on... its the popular thing to do) and just lock this now. Save us some time.
Nothing will be acheived through it and... now I think about it... we aren't looking for new mods so it is a moot point.

[Edited on 05.07.2007 8:58 PM PDT]

  • 05.07.2007 8:55 PM PDT
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Posted by: Pezza
I' not going to dismantle your whole post because I have a tendency to get angrier and angrier when dealing with obstinant threads. I would basically get to the end of your post and just blacklist you instead of replying.

Anyway; nice use of facts, your evidence is employed BRILLIANTLY to back up your claims.


Oh and I have been called corrupt so many times by this community that if that community ran the show, instead of myself, who would they be able to blame on being corrupt? Imagine a soap operah without a scheming twin brother? Boring. The forum needs our underhanded evils and out of control corruption or else they would be very bored.

Also, I said last week to my friends "I wonder who will make the next 'mods suck' thread in the Septagon? We will be due again soon." You take the prize!

So...why was Toast stripped of his powers? ;-)

  • 05.07.2007 8:57 PM PDT

Posted by: WolfmanMaverick
You people have just sent my sides into orbit. A bunch of MLG try hards sucking the dick of some supposed pro half the thread hasn't even heard of. Classic.

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Posted by: Pezza
Also, I said last week to my friends "I wonder who will make the next 'mods suck' thread in the Septagon? We will be due again soon." You take the prize!

I kept making "Pezza sucks" threads, but someone kept deleting them.

So whoever that was, they suck too.

Only on weeke........nevermind.

  • 05.07.2007 8:58 PM PDT

I hate everything, but it's not my fault.

Superusers are Bungie employees only because they have more privileges than just gold text.

Popularity contests SUCK.

  • 05.07.2007 8:59 PM PDT