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Subject: Halo 2 Playlist Update & Stat Reset
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I've noticed that with the stat reset we didn't lose our total games played, kills, deaths, K/D ratio, etc.

Can someone explain this please?
Are they only doing a limited reset strictly on our levels and experience?

  • 05.10.2007 4:47 AM PDT
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me. i don't always like to play team games. that's bull crap. rumble pit is my favorite thing in the playlist... or was.

  • 05.10.2007 5:55 AM PDT

ok it wont let me download the new maps from available content i pick blast acular tells me i already have it i dont need to purshase it do u want to download again i hit the a continue
and purshase and it says download failed what up with that

  • 05.10.2007 6:07 AM PDT

Yeah man, its your own fault for not having $4 in your bank account lmfao

  • 05.10.2007 6:19 AM PDT

well moron i do have more then 4.00and it still wont let me download it and when i get it done i am going to come and look for u and give u a beating biatch

  • 05.10.2007 6:22 AM PDT

"Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana."

The downloads still are not working correctly. I tried again last nigt after the new dashboard download. Once again, I get the download failed error message.

This make me very glad I'm not going to even try the Halo 3 Beta....

  • 05.10.2007 6:35 AM PDT

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Why were we not told when they first came out that the maps would be free after a while? That's bull S*** Bungie. If your gonna make 'em free make them free. And if it's going to be a surprise, WAIT AND SURPRISE ME. All I have to say is that Bungie should refund every one their money for these maps. They really F***ed this time.

I'm not one to complain (Especially about a measly $4), but I find myself somewhat in agreeance with you on this issue. I'm not angry like you are (Like I said, it's only $4), but I do take slight issue with the principal of the matter. We jumped through all these hoops and stood by patiently (Some not so patiently) through the whole downloading ordeal, gave our money for a product; And then as soon as the smoke starts to clear, Bungie says, "Oh by the way, this product will be free in under 2 months".

In the end, I'd rather have the maps widely available (Especially since they'll be in MM), so the free part is a good thing. I guess the point I'm trying to make is that I think it was a poor business decision to announce that the maps will be free right after a bunch of people paid for them and had a lot of troubles getting them (A small portion of the crowd still doesn't have them because they are unable to get them). It would have been much wiser to just release the maps for free in July with nothing but a brief little nod in the news. All of us customers who went through the purchase/download ordeal wouldn't be contemplating exactly what it is (and isn't) that we bought... When the maps were announced, the downloads were sold as "$4 for 2 new maps". After the announcement that they'll be free in July, that description changed to "$4 for the chance to play 2 new maps for 2 months before they are available for free". That first product is something that almost every H2 player would want and pay for. The second product is something that a lot of (But not all) H2 players would pay for.

In either case, it's not a huge deal. I'm glad the maps were made and really appreciate Bungie's hard work to help get them to our consoles. With all the other stuff going on there, I'm sure a lot of people had a rough 2 weeks getting this working.

  • 05.10.2007 6:39 AM PDT

Still got the same problem....
I got a Gold acc. via XboxLiveCode-Card.... without any CreditCard-Data.
But I got an old silver Acc. with CreditCard information... So BEFOR the "Bugfix" I downloaded the new Maps with my SilverAcc and PAYED FOR THEM!
It looks like right now, since the "Bugfix" i couldn´t download the maps again with my SilverAcc.....

Could it be, that you only "fixed" the problem with the unpaid downloads like this:
You "banned" all the SilverAcc from the Halo2 content-Download server??????

How should i get the Maps now????

  • 05.10.2007 6:41 AM PDT
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Why did Bungie make BTB unranked? At least make it ranked for the dedicated fans, or keep BTB Skirmish and BTB Slayer separate.

It seems like everytime Bungie messes with the playlists, ranked BTB always gets messed with. Leave ranked BTB alone!

  • 05.10.2007 6:57 AM PDT
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Long time Lurker First time poster - Been playing Halo ever since it first came out, even have Spartan 117 tattooed across my back - Im an UberFan. I felt I had to log on here and make a post because I am saddened by the change in Bungie since Microsoft got it's claws into them. You've sold out guys, first you screw us over maps (no real biggy but I cant think of any other form of transaction where you pay for something you never get and then get whinged at for complaining), now you screw us on the playlists. I can't think of one person who genuinely thinks that the changes to the matchmaking/playlists is a 'change for good'. You are trying to slowly kill off Halo 2 in order to rollout Halo 3, it's blatant and frankly shows that what was once a group of people who made these games with passion, vision, commitment and pride have been whittled down to money grabbing industry sellouts.
I believe that the halo gurus who started all this are still there but unfortunately their voices aren't as loud as the plethora of brutish microsoft corporate bods with grey suits and plasma swords ensuring that the prophets almighty milestones and marketing strategies are adhered to.
Time to Cowboy the *blam* up Bungie....Stay true to what you started and 'Finish The Fight'.

p.s. (I appreciate that you've gotta do what you're told by the Demon that is MicroSoft as contracts have been signed **In some cases in blood** and given that you wouldn't have those kosher pads down by the beach with 50 inch HD LCD teles and poledancing UAT testers sent in specially from the Silicon Valley 'Training Camp' aka the Hive Mind)

p.p.s (if you do have poledancing UAT hotties strutting their stuff then I cant blame you for selling out, I'd have signed the dotted line straight away but the least you could do is share the wealth with the lonely, sullen faced, socially inept, level 30+ crew of Halo devotees that sold their chances of seeing a real live woman naked for the ability to pull of a strafing headshot after 5 pints of a guinness and a dodgy kebab).

Thanks for listening....cheers.

  • 05.10.2007 6:59 AM PDT
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Well as I'd been stating, The maps had to become free for legual reasons. As for the map updaters needing re-download, I had stated to so we're in buisness, although it's still pretty -blam!- that nobody tested the maps to notice invisible walls everywhere and also that they waited until everyone paid for the map to announce they'D become free.Oh and Lochnivar, I deeply support your opinion on the selling out.

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  • 05.10.2007 7:01 AM PDT

XMaNuXx

and Rumble Hardcore??????....?????

  • 05.10.2007 7:15 AM PDT
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cool new maps in match making but no ones going to buy even tho there 5 bucks halo isnt as big as it was last year all the modders and standbyers where praticly gone now with the new ranks everones a lv 1 i just hope i dont loose lv or have to deal with moders even tho people are on 360 and no one wants to spend mad money for lv 50 u never no tho

  • 05.10.2007 7:58 AM PDT

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NOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooo..... my beautiful, beautiful stats, what have you done with them. lol

  • 05.10.2007 8:13 AM PDT
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dunno wot 2 say rly

this is crap i cant download maps coz of expired credit card coz i cant delete first card i used so now i cant play matchmakin untill i run out of membership or unless i format my hard drive WTF wos the point in doin that

  • 05.10.2007 8:17 AM PDT

Just wondering I don't understand why they removed Rumble pit. It was the only game that you could go into and not worry about having someone bad on your team or a loser that deranks. Personally i was good at it and i really enjoyed it. Now its pointless to play it, if i wanted to play unranked there was rumble training. I'm just very dissapointed.

  • 05.10.2007 8:31 AM PDT
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Wow rumble pit unranked..... why? Really. Now you have to rely on people on your team to help you out..... Thumbs down, way way down

  • 05.10.2007 8:40 AM PDT
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BUNGIE I LOVE YOU SO MUCH.This has to be the best playlist ever,keeping the casual player happy with games like team slayer,yet still keeping the hardcore players happy with team hardcore.Makeing FFA unranked is pure guinness(and long over due)everyone should know that true skill comes from team based games 'CAUSE FFA IS RANDOM AT HIGH LEVEL PLAY!

  • 05.10.2007 8:54 AM PDT
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BRING BACK RUMBLE HARDCORE IF YOUR MAKING RUMBLE PIT UNRANKED, WHAT THA HELL NO RANKED FREE FOR ALL COME ON. EVERYONE LOVED RUMBLE HARDCORE ANYWAY?
OH YEAH BY THA WAY I KNOW LOADS OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE FOUND A DIFFERENT WAY TO GET HOST OF A GAME, A WAY THAT AVOIDS THE BUNGIE BANHAMMER SYSTEM :O :O

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  • 05.10.2007 8:55 AM PDT
Subject: NO MORE RUMBLE TRAINING?!?!
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i loved rumble training i always used it for warm up since everyone always quits in team training grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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effed up matchmaking ftw. i entered team snipers and got put into team training. then the next game i entered team snipes again and the other team had guests on it. >_< actually effed up MM is pretty fun though.

here's the first game

and the other

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  • 05.10.2007 8:59 AM PDT
Subject: Halo 2 Playlist Update &amp;amp; Stat Reset

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ok it wont let me download the new maps from available content i pick blast acular tells me i already have it i dont need to purshase it do u want to download again i hit the a continue
and purshase and it says download failed what up with that


yeah same here...WTF

  • 05.10.2007 9:03 AM PDT

"Fatty is your daddy."

maps in mm and ranks reset <----- THANK YOU!!!!!

  • 05.10.2007 9:07 AM PDT
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Ok, so I just confirm with my bank that I was charged TWICE.... this is really a let down that I have to call up xbox live support to figure this out after Bungie has repeatedly stated that we wont be charged twice.
Here is what I did:
Downloaded the map pack on 4/19 on my 360 that my Gold account is on, got charged $4
Downloaded the re-release on 5/9 on the same 360, got charged another $4

waiting on hold (20 min now) for this to be fixed now....

I have to admit that I am really let down that Bungie had to re-release the maps to fix some stupid geometry problems. I hope they fixed a gernade issue I ran into on tombstone as well. I had 3 plasmas but couldn't pick up a fourth for some reason.

  • 05.10.2007 9:13 AM PDT
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As a long time Halo 2 player I am not happy with the current situation. With the new maps Bungie has effectively forced me to purchase the new maps for $4 to maintain the functionality that has been in Halo 2 since the game was released. As an Xbox Live Gold Member I am already paying an annual fee to play Halo 2 online. Now I have to pay an extra $4 to maintain my current online functionality. This is not acceptable.

I understand that new content has to paid for. It is unfortunate that the current business model on Xbox Live involves charging customers for the vast majority of extra game content (especially on-top of the annual fee, and initial game costs). Charging for content divides the player base, which is ultimately bad for the Halo 2 online community since it limits the player pool for the playlists. Ideally a different model, perhaps ad-based, would cover the costs of development with the benefit that the content would be free to everyone. But I digress.

Bungie chose to give players something more, which I believe was a good thing. They also had to determine how to satisfy players that bought the content with playlists to play in, while at the same time not completely preventing players without the premium content from playing in matchmaking. Despite the fact that I feel that the current situation is unacceptable, I can understand that this was a lose/lose situation for Bungie. Either they could ignore players' desire for new maps (lose), or divide the player base and remove functionality from players, like myself, that chose not to pay (lose).

Ultimately I would like to see Xbox Live support a completely ad-based model for premium content that would make it available to all members. Such a model does not seem to be on the horizon, so I believe Bungie should consider implementing technology that would allow them to implement new, for-pay, maps into playlists without blocking players without that content from playing. I have all but two of the maps for Halo 2 there is no technical limitation that should prevent the match-making system from selecting one of maps I have when I want to play Team Slayer, or Team SWAT. While I do not expect such a feature to be available for Halo 2, Bungie should implement such a solution in Halo 3 so that new maps are not divisive to the Halo 3 player base, or a barrier to entry for any of the match-making playlists.

  • 05.10.2007 9:24 AM PDT