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Posted by: Gods Prophet
Was it greed, or was it the fact that these guys put in work and effort and need to get paid? Anyway, free is awesome so w00t to that.
Too god damn right it was greed.its like this,pay me $4 dollars or your not playing halo.SIMPLE,

  • 05.10.2007 8:40 AM PDT

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Posted by: Gods Prophet
Was it greed, or was it the fact that these guys put in work and effort and need to get paid? Anyway, free is awesome so w00t to that.
Too god damn right it was greed.its like this,pay me $4 dollars or your not playing halo.SIMPLE,

Well, not that simple. More like, pay me $4 or you're not playing any matchmaking playlist except Double Team, Hardcore, Training, or Big Team for two months until the maps become free

Doesn't have quite the same tyrannical ring, does it?

  • 05.10.2007 8:51 AM PDT

Teamwork means staying out of my way.

That is really REALLY messed up. They never said they would be free in July. In fact, they made it seem like you HAD to pay because of things like "To enjoy matchmaking you will have to buy the new maps." This really is fraud. I think we should file a class action lawsuit against bungie for misrepresentation.

  • 05.10.2007 8:52 AM PDT
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If it were about greed then none of it would be free ever. They would make the maps optional but allow you to play without them. Why, because marketing knows that you would be posting on the forums listening to how much fun the new maps were and then you would just have to have them. Every map would be $1 or $2 a piece and they would be sold in singles not bundles.

Then, they would make new weapons available for purchase. If you wanted the upgraded shields, $1. Want that cool logo on your shoulder, $1. Want a custom logo you can upload to Bungie so they can paste it on your virtual hero, $5. And guess what? They'd make a frickin killing.

Instead, the developers make up some new maps (which takes machine time of skilled programmers) to keep it interesting so we don't complain of the same old maps over and over again and what happens, people complain about Bungie reps not flying to their home-town and handing it to them for free with a bag of Munchos as a snack.

BTW, enjoy pretending that you know how to play the guitar.

  • 05.10.2007 8:53 AM PDT
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Im not buying the maps either. Greedy idiots actually expect people to pay so they can be cheated all over again as the tool bags in the game try to recover their level.

  • 05.10.2007 8:53 AM PDT
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Food for thought.

Isn't it nice how complex and intelligent the posts get during school hours?

  • 05.10.2007 8:56 AM PDT
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Posted by: C Moth
If it were about greed then none of it would be free ever. They would make the maps optional but allow you to play without them. Why, because marketing knows that you would be posting on the forums listening to how much fun the new maps were and then you would just have to have them. Every map would be $1 or $2 a piece and they would be sold in singles not bundles.

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You obviously haven't been around the world long enough to know how businesses work. Think about this.

If it is not about money like you claim. Why are they resetting the stats NOW? If they really aren't out to get your money, then why don't they wait until July when the maps are free and then start fresh?. People are still going to buy the maps so why the need to reset the stats now when the only way you can get ranked is to have the maps and the only way you can have the maps is if you pay.

Thats the biggest indicator right there. And you said it yourself about making the maps optional. WHY AREN'T THEY OPTIONAL NOW? Why can't I still go and play ranked without them.......Because they want MONEY. Plain and simple.

  • 05.10.2007 9:02 AM PDT
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Posted by: Noonah
I love it. Brilliant... absolutely brilliant.

Yes, yes. I was one of the ones who complained. Complained bitterly.

Not because I can't afford $4 - I can.

Not because people need to be paid for work. I have no problem with that. Someone offers me something, I decide whether I want it, then I buy it if it's worthwhile. They get paid if their work is worth paying money for. That's the modern world.

But if someone forces me to pay something, I have a problem. Microsoft owns Bungie. They set the price on these maps. They decided it would be a one-off tax on the Halo 2 population, killing all the worthwhile playlists to force us to cough up to fill their coffers - which are already overflowing. Don't tell me Halo isn't massively in profit already. THEY DIDN'T NEED THIS MONEY. IT WAS MOTIVATED BY GREED.

But they've taxed their tax. You suckers have paid. They got you.

Not me. I didn't pay.

I'm taking a few months off Halo 2. I'm gonna play a bit of Guitar Hero, gonna finish off those last Crackdown missions. Gonna go out to some bars, see some shows, download some TV.

Gonna love that Halo 3 beta.

And come July I'm gonna download those new maps. For free. Like they should have been in the first place, if they weren't an optional download.

And you people who paid $4? You're gonna tell me I'm a -blam!-. You're gonna tell me I should have smiled as I paid my dues, just grateful that they deigned to let us keep playing a game we paid for, on a service we keep paying for, for such a small amount of money.

And I would have got a whole two months extra play on two crappy maps out of 20-odd. Woo-effing-hoo.

Enjoy, people. See you in 8 weeks time.

I think its worth more to buy em now for $4 than to wait for 2 months to get em. realy dude its only $4

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  • 05.10.2007 9:20 AM PDT
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Posted by: Noonah
Hey fuzzynip you like OWNING people don't you. You want to OWN me. See you in July. You can OWN me then. You'll love it. I'll be your gimp xx

And Fort Sump: yep, the price has been rolled in there. By you suckers who paid. Who sent a message that Microsoft can use Xbox Live to tax us whenever they like. Nice work.

I'm not familiar with the new Gears of War maps. Was that an optional download, or did they cripple the product for the non-downloaders, like with Halo 2? That's my beef. As I said in the original post, I have no problem with being asked to buy a product. If it's a good one, I'll buy it, and Certain Affinity will get paid what they deserve. But if I'm forced to pay? That just encourages sub-standard work. Because if they can force you to pay, they don't need to make it a ''must buy because it's so good'' kind of product.

For the long-term health of Xbox Live, and to get the best enjoyment out of these games we play, we have to insist that we only pay for what is worth buying. Which means that EVERY download must be TRULY optional.






You live in America you know....you can hardly be forced to play halo or even pay for maps....Bungie is not doing anything to you.....if you do not want to pay then don't, it is that simple. Freedom of choice....it's a wonderful thing, you should try it sometime!!

  • 05.10.2007 9:36 AM PDT
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$4 isnt much.

  • 05.10.2007 9:50 AM PDT
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It doesnt take a rocket scientest to figure that with over 100,000 players every 24 hours online in Halo that at some time the maps would go free. I dont see my self as a sucker for paying $4 for the Maps. I piss that kinda money away everyday on things that bring way less pleasure. Yea I payed $4 and I checked it out and played some games with friends the day they came out. How about you? :) Nope hahaha Still bitter are you? haha Oh and I finally played a Matchmaking game on one of them. Sweet,

Go play your other games and quit crying

  • 05.10.2007 10:01 AM PDT
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The maps ARE optional!!!!!! You can play Hardcore! That's a ranked playlist. You can also play double team, also a RANKED playlist. That makes it optional.

  • 05.10.2007 10:33 AM PDT
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I can't understand the issue with paying $4.00 for the maps. I gladly pay it. Has halo 2 been good to me? let's see...

Halo2 cost about $50.00. hours played? don't know... hundreds since it's been out... way too many
Madden 2004 cost about $50.00. hours played? maybe 3
MLB cost about $50.00. hours played? maybe 5
... I've probably bought about 20 xbox games and I just get bored with them so fast... Halo 2 is really the only game that I just keep playing and playing and playing...

so I have no problem spending $4.00 for some new maps.

  • 05.10.2007 10:33 AM PDT
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I payed £2 for the maps big deal im not a cheap skate like you, have fun waiting i will be off now to go play the new maps.

  • 05.10.2007 10:58 AM PDT
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Posted by: Noonah
I'm not familiar with the new Gears of War maps. Was that an optional download, or did they cripple the product for the non-downloaders, like with Halo 2?

It's the same as all the other 360 games, like GRAW, R6 etc. They're totally optional, but you can't play with most of the people online because they DID get them.


Posted by: Tang
And you are a -blam!- idot it was not bungie -blam!- moron certain affinity did it

Certain affinity charged your credit card, did they? Certain Affinity put the maps onto the Xbox live network, did they? Cetain Affinity didn’t make the game, didn’t make the xbox, don’t run halo 2’s online service, and don’t run xbox live. They were hired to create the maps. Don’t you children understand anything before shooting your little mouths off with flaming?


You are dumb too...like I said YES bungie put them on however they are not bungies maps and the choice to make them cost was certain affinity no way around so bungie has to charge it..if it was thier own it probably woulda been free and so what 4 dollars big deal who cares make them rich I dont really care...got my maps no problem for me and stop -blam!-in.

  • 05.10.2007 11:02 AM PDT
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These employees are going to get paid whether they charge for the maps or not.

You want to bend over and take it in the rear that is one thing, but to actually come out and defend the huge million dollar companies that are giving it to you....man, you people just blow my mind.

  • 05.10.2007 11:17 AM PDT
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I think the guy that made this thread is the one who's greedy.

  • 05.10.2007 11:33 AM PDT

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