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Subject: New wave of cheaters


Yeah,kind of. But it's sketchy on the 360. Some maps are easy, others almost impossible. Well,on my 360 at least.

  • 05.16.2007 4:51 AM PDT
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backwash has problems if you have a 360

  • 05.16.2007 5:29 AM PDT
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Posted by: glitchingforgod
I dont really think ((((super jumping)))) or pressing buttons in a orderly fasion ((((is cheating))))..

OMG are you an idiot glitchingforgod?!?!?! Super jumping is not cheating?!?!?! I hope that was a joke. Read only the bold font.

[Edited on 05.16.2007 11:45 PM PDT]

  • 05.16.2007 11:45 PM PDT

I agree, I have been playing more cheaters now then I ever have playing. It's getting sad, like everyone that I play is standbying, bridging, whatever. It's just getting dumb now, and I know how to use button glitches, but I think that skill purely should rely on how you play the game, not if you can bxb or bxr. I play kids all the time who talk like "OH, BXR'd YOU!" like its an accomplishment. I just wish that the banhammer would just kick people bridging and standbying, but hey, I don't make the rules, I can't enforce em.

  • 05.17.2007 9:52 AM PDT

Anything used to give one an unfair advantage to winning a game is considering cheating. Regardless if it is so widespread. Why did Bungie make us download the maps again? Oh, they patched up superjumps in the map. I wonder why they would patch the superjumps up, I mean since it's not cheating, as people say. You can't patch up every map because you would have to rework the entire game. I can bxr, and I know how to superjump, but I don't because it gives me an unfair advantage. I am just stating an opinion and all you do is come around and be a smart ass. You are entitled to your own opinion as I am to mine, but I am just saying that Bungie said it, and it's been proven because of them fixing superjumps, which means they don't want them. Bungie made the game, not you. Nuff said.

  • 05.17.2007 11:22 AM PDT
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Button combos = not cheating everyone can do these if not well thats not our fault
Super Jumping = May be very -blam!- but still not ban worthy i would think
Bridging = they fixed bridging other people host but not bridging people out of games ( so i hear)
Stand bye for host = increase since newest patch ( if bungie fixs this they will fix almost all other forms of cheating relating to host)

superjumping > button combos on the -blam!-ness scale

  • 05.17.2007 11:34 AM PDT

Well in a sense, I won't consider the button combos cheating, I think its glitchy as all hell and it kind of defeats the purpose of the game anyways, just like superjumping. Why people cheat, no one knows, but I mean seriously, if you have to double shot or quad shot or bxb/bxr, just to win, I mean it doesn't take skill to do that, and it does give an unfair advantage though just because some people don't know how to do it, and I have been getting lots of bridgers recently, you can tell from holding select before the match starts and 2 people won't have x's on the opposite team, which I believe is someone briding the host to the other, it's not like you have to be a genius to do it, but sheesh, isn't this getting bad? I agree that superjumps beat combos in the cheating factor, its just overall, its getting frustrating and ridiculous to play people online now with everything. I hope it doesn't get this bad on 3.

  • 05.17.2007 11:39 AM PDT
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Posted by: Sunday Pie
Well in a sense, I won't consider the button combos cheating, I think its glitchy as all hell and it kind of defeats the purpose of the game anyways, just like superjumping. Why people cheat, no one knows, but I mean seriously, if you have to double shot or quad shot or bxb/bxr, just to win, I mean it doesn't take skill to do that, and it does give an unfair advantage though just because some people don't know how to do it, and I have been getting lots of bridgers recently, you can tell from holding select before the match starts and 2 people won't have x's on the opposite team, which I believe is someone briding the host to the other, it's not like you have to be a genius to do it, but sheesh, isn't this getting bad? I agree that superjumps beat combos in the cheating factor, its just overall, its getting frustrating and ridiculous to play people online now with everything. I hope it doesn't get this bad on 3.


ok well if double shot quad shot bxr etc. was so easy why would people complain , poeple are just geting mad that they cant do it , believe me it takes alot of skill to double and quad shot bxr , not so much but some . and btw 2 poeple cant have host there is only 1 host thatd be like playing a game on 2 diferent servers usually it is just 1 host and 1 person with a good connection to the host and they connect faster to the guy with good connection then to the guy with bad connection so he spawns faster i agree with you though its pretty fudging -blam!-

[Edited on 05.17.2007 11:49 AM PDT]

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Posted by: Oddley765
You know what why don't you stick it where the sun doesn't shine mate!

Not cheating...where do these no brain forum losers come from? If it's not in the game manual then it's a cheat. Simple. If it's an unfair advantage its a cheat...shall I go on?

Go ahead PM a mod or Achronos or call Bungie and see what is cheating. Just because you cannot win legit you defend these crappy cheats.

If you don't want them to be cheating then play customs or visit an MLG event, just don't screw up MM for the rest of us . Best of luck there.

Hell I'll even request/challenge a mod or Acrhonos here and now...

Please get an official link or statement on what is and isn't cheating exactly!

Please don't just point us to the cheaters FAQ page, which is out-of-date and still says your investigating superbounces (please, more like we can't alter the code so you're stuck with it).

It is high time an official cheating sticky was introduced into the Halo 2 forums.

A sticky thread that compiles a detailed and descriptive list of known cheats, while providing an official reference on what Bungie consider cheating and not. Really why wasn't this done throughout the years of Halo 2?

Bungie forget playing nice with MLG please, just inform us exactly what you consider cheating in MM.

Here's a quick list to get you started -

1. bridging for host
2. standby for host
2. on purpose firewall latency
3. on purpose lagging people out
4. superbouncing
5. button combos
6. out of map

Hey I'd even be grateful if you just commented on that list alone. The 95th percentile covered there I think.


please dude ,stfu. get a life, stop worring about halo and youre 15000 games, LoL, i thought my 1500 was bad

  • 05.17.2007 12:02 PM PDT

Halo Reach Xbox 360, and Reach Legendary Edition owner

You know what I hate, is button gliches, OHHH WOW I DID A BXR ON YOU! OHH WOW I DID A DOUBLE AND QUAD SHOT OHH WOW!! Get a life, and yea I know how to do them but I don't use them because I think they are cheating. People that use button gliches are nerdy -blam!- people.

[Edited on 05.17.2007 12:14 PM PDT]

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Posted by: CheifSikes
You know what I hate, is button gliches, OHHH WOW I DID A BXR ON YOU! OHH WOW I DID A DOUBLE AND QUAD SHOT OHH WOW!! Get a life, and yea I know how to do them but I don't use them because I think they are cheating. People that use button gliches are nerdy -blam!- people.


i think people who complain about them are nerdy -blam!- people.....you

  • 05.17.2007 12:28 PM PDT
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They should just have a seperate set of playlist for the pathetic cheaters so they can go jack eachother off while the skilled players can play.

  • 05.17.2007 12:49 PM PDT
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Super jumping is an act of cheating if u are playing MLG rules and then there are millons of other cheatings

  • 05.17.2007 3:04 PM PDT
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Just recently I was playing some Swat on that earth level with the medic hut etc and the other team was jumping off the map. It was damn hard to take them out since they had the optimal high ground. I reported them all and hope bungie can see their routes as being off the map and bans them.

Why doesn't bungie release a public list of banned tags for shaming? That way we can see they are making progress and we can get some satisfaction knowing these pathetic individuals are gone.

  • 05.17.2007 6:21 PM PDT
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Posted by: glitchingforgod
I dont really think ((((super jumping)))) or pressing buttons in a orderly fasion ((((is cheating))))..

OMG are you an idiot glitchingforgod?!?!?! Super jumping is not cheating?!?!?! I hope that was a joke. Read only the bold font.



It isnt cheating, no matter what you think. Is it my fault bungie makes it so I can, I think not. Bridging modding all that stuff is cheating yes... But I dont see how crouching and jumping onto the floor is cheating.. Just because you are like 11 years old doesnt mean you go and rant on me because you cant do them. 84D K1D!!!

  • 05.17.2007 6:35 PM PDT
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OOPS. Sorry for the double post i clicked reply when i wanted to click edit

[Edited on 05.17.2007 9:43 PM PDT]

  • 05.17.2007 9:33 PM PDT
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Posted by: Cal227
Posted by: glitchingforgod
Posted by: Cal227
[quote]Posted by: glitchingforgod
I dont really think ((((super jumping)))) or pressing buttons in a orderly fasion ((((is cheating))))..

OMG are you an idiot glitchingforgod?!?!?! Super jumping is not cheating?!?!?! I hope that was a joke. Read only the bold font.



It isnt cheating, no matter what you think. Is it my fault bungie makes it so I can, I think not. Bridging modding all that stuff is cheating yes... But I dont see how crouching and jumping onto the floor is cheating.. Just because you are like 11 years old doesnt mean you go and rant on me because you cant do them. 84D K1D!!!

Listen to what you are saying. Super jumping gives you an unfair advantage, and if you still cant understand why, then you never will. I'm going to ignore you calling me 11 years old, i dont play that childish game with people.

  • 05.17.2007 9:36 PM PDT
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Posted by: jason hardy
Super jumping is an act of cheating if u are playing MLG rules and then there are millons of other cheatings

Who HONESTLY likes MLG

  • 05.17.2007 9:38 PM PDT
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Posted by: Cal227
Posted by: Cal227
Posted by: glitchingforgod
[quote]Posted by: Cal227
[quote]Posted by: glitchingforgod
I dont really think ((((super jumping)))) or pressing buttons in a orderly fasion ((((is cheating))))..

OMG are you an idiot glitchingforgod?!?!?! Super jumping is not cheating?!?!?! I hope that was a joke. Read only the bold font.



It isnt cheating, no matter what you think. Is it my fault bungie makes it so I can, I think not. Bridging modding all that stuff is cheating yes... But I dont see how crouching and jumping onto the floor is cheating.. Just because you are like 11 years old doesnt mean you go and rant on me because you cant do them. 84D K1D!!!

Listen to what you are saying. Super jumping gives you an unfair advantage, and if you still cant understand why, then you never will. I'm going to ignore you calling me 11 years old, i dont play that childish game with people. But your right i guess, i should not have been rude, sorry

  • 05.17.2007 9:40 PM PDT
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Oh hey look a new Halo game. This is pretty fun. Oh what does thi-STFU N00B U SUX JUST STOP PLAYING CAUSE THERES NO POINT >=( RAAAAAAAAAAGE....

Ah the online gaming world. Lol.

Ok look at it this way. If you go into MM at a high lvl you dont know what to expect from the other team. You assume that they know how to do BXR and BXB so of course your going to do it right back at them. I would use it if i knew the other player had a advantage over me and the only thing i could do is use it right back at him. Im not trying to defend em or nothing in fact im looking forward to Halo 3 where all of it will be cut out (in my opinion i think it will be a lot funner) and then we can start having fun in the game again instead of getting jackasses who say they kicked your arse and stuff like that. Im not saying button glitches are right im just saying if you know someone else is going to use em on you and you know how to do em and you wanna try to win then your proably going to do em. Oh and another thing. MLG kinda ruined halo 2 because if they would have never came along there would proably be way less people who talk crap on this game. As far as superbouncing goes i like doing em in customs but in MM i think its just plain stupid. At least with button glitches your at least killable.

  • 05.18.2007 1:03 AM PDT
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Posted by: TIGHCLOPS
"they are just stating their opinion that they dont think it is cheating."

Not all opinions are equal, in fact many opinions are outright stupid. If I were to tell you that it is my opinion that the sky is in fact plaid, that would be a stupid opinion because it's clearly -blam!- blue. In this case, the opinion that superbouncing and abusing other glitches in the game is not cheating is an invalid opinion, because they are ABUSES OF GLITCHES IN THE GAME.

It's sickening how utterly incapable many of the people who post here are of understanding that basic fact.


I don't play Halo2 so feel free to tell me to STFU but

I DO play ALOT of online games (mostly PC) and I personaly DETEST exploiting. This superbouncing and button combo-ing sound like exploits. Now my point is that it's an old old and still rageing argument over wether or not exploiting is cheating. I think it might be like the global warming (sorry climate change) argument, in so much as 99% agree but a vocal 1% disagree and the media give them equqal time so it looks like a 50-50 split to thoughs who don't know/ don't care. Anyway back on point as it is such and argument there is little to be done with PC games you just avoid public servers (for most things) and the skill-less kiddies who need to exploit to win (some exploits take great skill but cheating is cheating as far as I care), and need to win to have fun, are kicked quick smart or discouraged to a point that they don't come back.

I know this might not help but all I can say is, it looks like your stuck with them so just take what you can and let the rest go.

  • 05.18.2007 3:08 AM PDT

You were born Guilty

This is all just....HYPOCRISY at it's finest........
1.THE FIRST SIGN OF HYPOCRISY IS DENIAL...Denial is the state in which your parents live.......ask them about it.

  • 05.18.2007 3:20 AM PDT
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These cheaters got to grow up a bit. Oh and don't listen to MLG, they don't know how to run a game, they allow button combos, but prohibit superjumping, how retarded can you get?

[Edited on 05.18.2007 3:23 AM PDT]

  • 05.18.2007 3:22 AM PDT
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ahahaha!!! you would complain about "button combo'ing" if you can't take a double shot or anything, learn to do it good enough to do it back to someone.. i double shot only when it can save me, and it works!! i love double shotting kids like you, you guys get all "WTF?!"

  • 05.18.2007 7:04 AM PDT

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