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the only time I really despise quitters is in objective games where you really need all the team work you got, its hard playing a game of double team ctf and not groaning when your p quits, if its slayer I cant help but get a smile cuz thats when its challenging

  • 05.17.2007 3:00 PM PDT
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Posted by: Martyn106
Posted by: a bad mo fo
I have a perfectly legit reason for quitting... because I WANT TO. YOU don't get to dictate what's "enjoyable" and what isn't. I don't play this game for rank. I play it for fun. And when I'm not having fun anymore, I quit.

Your problem is that you take it too seriously. It's a video game for Pete's sake! Your rank is meaningless for the most part anyway. If someone quits on your team, and you don't enjoy that, then QUIT YOURSELF and start a new game. Pretty simple really.


If your playing for fun and not rank thwen the is PLAYER MATCHES for people like you
In spite of your typos you have a valid point.

Unfortunately helmet boy here is probably going to have a hard time understanding, let me paraphrase:

IF YOU PLAY TEAM GAMES OR RANKED GAMES YOU SHOULD GO IN WITH THE INTENTION TO PLAY THE GAME ALL THE WAY THROUGH. IF YOU WANT TO QUIT WHEN THINGS AREN'T UP TO YOUR PRINCESS-PONY STANDARDS THEN STICK WITH UNRANKED OR SOLO GAMES.

duuuuhhhhhrrrrrr

  • 05.17.2007 3:02 PM PDT
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ALL the player matches are for me. I like to play Team Slayer also. I paid just as much for my game as you. You don't get to dictate to others how they can play. Sorry. You can insult me till the cow come home. You can post 10,000 threads complaining about quitting. All you are doing is sending yourself to an early heat attack. It isn't going to change. It's a video game played for fun. You are taking this stuff way to seriously.

Take it down a thousand.

  • 05.17.2007 3:03 PM PDT
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Posted by: WildBoyz7
the only time I really despise quitters is in objective games where you really need all the team work you got, its hard playing a game of double team ctf and not groaning when your p quits, if its slayer I cant help but get a smile cuz thats when its challenging


Agreed, never leave an objective game of any size. Its easy to overcome a quitter in TS, but its hard in objective. If you teammate quits in DT its over. Always play DT with a friend.

  • 05.17.2007 3:03 PM PDT
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Actually, you know what Bungie could do to solve your problem? Take away ranks all-together. No ranks means no rank whores. It means you have nothing to get so upset about.

  • 05.17.2007 3:04 PM PDT
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Its our money and we pay for it. If I have to go I can quit out of the game. Beileve me I hate quitters when we are down 10 points but when im down 15 point or higher I leave its pointless to waste my time to loss.

  • 05.17.2007 3:07 PM PDT
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Posted by: a bad mo fo
Actually, you know what Bungie could do to solve your problem? Take away ranks all-together. No ranks means no rank whores. It means you have nothing to get so upset about.
Wow. You really ARE an idiot. I'm starting to feel sorry for you.

Why don't you go back and read what I wrote, maybe ask for help in understanding some of it. I know some of the punctuation could throw you off.

Then maybe come back with something intelligent to say.

Next?

  • 05.17.2007 3:07 PM PDT
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bad idea, I need to be able to compete

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Posted by: a bad mo fo
Actually, you know what Bungie could do to solve your problem? Take away ranks all-together. No ranks means no rank whores. It means you have nothing to get so upset about.


If there are no ranks then there is no way to know how much better you are than the person you just beat. It would take away the real fun of online games.(thats whooping the arse of someone 5 levels lower than you if you didn't get that)

  • 05.17.2007 3:09 PM PDT
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ap0 is your whole deal that you want there to be some kind of punishment for quitters since they do ruin the game?

  • 05.17.2007 3:09 PM PDT
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Posted by: killin u foo
Its our money and we pay for it. If I have to go I can quit out of the game. Beileve me I hate quitters when we are down 10 points but when im down 15 point or higher I leave its pointless to waste my time to loss.
So in essence you're saying you're as much of a selfish bastard as the people you hate - yet you see a clearly defined difference in 5 or so points?

Come on - grow up people.

This is the kind of crap that makes this game complete crap to play ranked games in.

Quitter.

  • 05.17.2007 3:10 PM PDT
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Its hard to beileve ur a adult you are calling us Quitters..seriously grow up dude.

  • 05.17.2007 3:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: WildBoyz7
ap0 is your whole deal that you want there to be some kind of punishment for quitters since they do ruin the game?
Yep 100% - restriction on gameplay and rank advancement.

Bungie needs to make all quitters who make a habit of it to hover around low ranks and for the sake of sportsmanship not be allowed to compete with higher (more serious) ranked games. In fact it'd be best if they were restricted from playing ranked games for extended periods of time in general after quitting X amount of times in addition to taking rank loss for doing so.

Again, I want to restate that legitimate quitting serves it's purpose and that is not what I am referring to.

  • 05.17.2007 3:13 PM PDT
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Posted by: killin u foo
Its hard to beileve ur a adult you are calling us Quitters..seriously grow up dude.
Oh no! A quitter is mad at me! What are you gonna do? Quit the thread?

Oh the irony.

If you get popped in the nose do you run home to mommy or do what you can to put that sunofa-blam!- down?

My money's on mommy for you pansy-assed princesses.

  • 05.17.2007 3:15 PM PDT
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Oh man this has been an entertaining thread.

Thanks for the fun you candyassed quitters.

I got work to do but I'll be back to read all the weak ass flaming attempts.

Have fun!

  • 05.17.2007 3:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: ap0klyptk
Yep 100% - restriction on gameplay and rank advancement.

Bungie needs to make all quitters who make a habit of it to hover around low ranks and for the sake of sportsmanship not be allowed to compete with higher (more serious) ranked games. In fact it'd be best if they were restricted from playing ranked games for extended periods of time in general after quitting X amount of times in addition to taking rank loss for doing so.

Again, I want to restate that legitimate quitting serves it's purpose and that is not what I am referring to.


I'm confused about how this would work. A person would be punished for quitting, but how would bungie be able to tell if they had a legit reason for quitting? I can't see how anyone could determine the reason people that a person quit.

What if the quitters are skilled, if they arn't allowed to advance in rank wouldn't that ruin the low levels/unranked playlists for everyone else? If people knew bungie was doing this they would quit on purpose just so this would happen to them so they could play against the lower quality of competition.


Please don't think this is an attack, its not. I think something should be done to combat the problem. How about making a know quitter start with a negative score, for instance -2. That way his team would have to get 52 kills to win in TS, putting them at a disadvantage.

  • 05.17.2007 3:22 PM PDT
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Posted by: el rey
Posted by: ap0klyptk
Yep 100% - restriction on gameplay and rank advancement.

Bungie needs to make all quitters who make a habit of it to hover around low ranks and for the sake of sportsmanship not be allowed to compete with higher (more serious) ranked games. In fact it'd be best if they were restricted from playing ranked games for extended periods of time in general after quitting X amount of times in addition to taking rank loss for doing so.

Again, I want to restate that legitimate quitting serves it's purpose and that is not what I am referring to.


I'm confused about how this would work. A person would be punished for quitting, but how would bungie be able to tell if they had a legit reason for quitting? I can't see how anyone could determine the reason people that a person quit.

What if the quitters are skilled, if they arn't allowed to advance in rank wouldn't that ruin the low levels/unranked playlists for everyone else? If people knew bungie was doing this they would quit on purpose just so this would happen to them so they could play against the lower quality of competition.


Please don't think this is an attack, its not. I think something should be done to combat the problem. How about making a know quitter start with a negative score, for instance -2. That way his team would have to get 52 kills to win in TS, putting them at a disadvantage.
Let me ask you this: Do you really think someone would have a LEGITIMATE reason to quit more than 3 times in one 24 hour period?

If you have that many emergencies in your life then you shouldn't be playing team games where people rely on you pulling your weight.

So, as a result let's say everyone has a 3 quit limit. After the 3rd quit, you're not allowed to play ranked games for 24 hours.

Furthermore, every time you quit - for whatever reason - you lose 25% of your ranking score. So everyone knows no matter WHAT you get penalized for quitting.

It's a double edged sword sure, but the consequence is on par with the action. You screw your teammates or screw with the game and there are consequences - pretty simple actually and FAIR.

Think of how much fewer people will quit...

  • 05.17.2007 3:27 PM PDT
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Posted by: ap0klyptk

.Let me ask you this: Do you really think someone would have a LEGITIMATE reason to quit more than 3 times in one 24 hour period?

If you have that many emergencies in your life then you shouldn't be playing team games where people rely on you pulling your weight.

So, as a result let's say everyone has a 3 quit limit. After the 3rd quit, you're not allowed to play ranked games for 24 hours.

Furthermore, every time you quit - for whatever reason - you lose 25% of your ranking score. So everyone knows no matter WHAT you get penalized for quitting.

It's a double edged sword sure, but the consequence is on par with the action. You screw your teammates or screw with the game and there are consequences - pretty simple actually and FAIR.

Think of how much fewer people will quit...




Considering that there is a large part of the community that comes home from school and plays halo for 6+ hours I can believe that a person could have legitimate cause to leave on more than 3 occasions. Take a dump, eat, answer the phone, get the door, etc...

I do like the idea, I think it should be raised to 5 quits in a 24 hour span and only quitting out of ranked games should contribute to it. If you mean 25% of a player's progress on his current level I like that idea. I think the percentage should be lowered if it is going to be assessed after each quit, or increased to 50% and applied after the player uses all 5 quits All in all I think this could be the beginning of a good idea and has serious potential.

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  • 05.17.2007 3:36 PM PDT
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i Totaly agree wit el rey

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I still agree with apocalptyo, even though the insults from BOTH sides have been immature, unoriginal, and pointless.
Everyone knows ranked matches are more serious than training: it's common sense.

If you need to go to the bathroom or eat, do so before you join a game. Why in the world would you join a game you know you were going to quit anyway? The typical "because I can" answer here will not suffice.

To reiterate, quitting in training matches IMO is alright, under any circumstance. I respect everyone's right to quit, but one would admit it does get annoying sometimes. I say just obey the Golden Rule. If you have ever complained about quitters, you should never quit unless it's of dire need.
Sound too serious to you? Well, it's not surprising that too many people take this game seriously. To ignore this fact would be just plain ignorance. Is it illegal? No. Is it going to get you banned? No. Is quitting usually the best thing to do? No.

If you don't like a game or think "it's just for fun dude---relax (and I agree)," you should play training matches. Plain and simple.
Too many people take this game too seriously for others to ignore, and to overlook this fact would be a deliberate way to piss people off.

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To the starter of this thread,

If you're annoyed by quitters in Halo 2, try playing C&C on Live. People quit just as I'm about to win, which is annoying. So get over it, I guess. Whining on this forum won't help.

Yours,

Deus

  • 05.17.2007 6:55 PM PDT

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Ap0 you suck. There is a thing called a life. Get One. Like you said you are a geek and a retard.

  • 05.17.2007 6:58 PM PDT
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Posted by: Deus_Ex_Machina
To the starter of this thread,

If you're annoyed by quitters in Halo 2, try playing C&C on Live. People quit just as I'm about to win, which is annoying. So get over it, I guess. Whining on this forum won't help.

Yours,

Deus


Agreed.

  • 05.17.2007 6:59 PM PDT
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I agree with the whole point of this thread, though I would've gone about a different way of explaining my points.

The basic point is this: Team games require a TEAM, not someone who wants a certain gametype over another. That defeats the whole concept of a team.

In any ranked 4 vs 4 game, a quitter usually spells doom for the team the person quit on. I am fairly confident that teams with a quitter with, most of the time, lose.

Is it right to punish those who stayed in while one kid decided to quit because the gametype was not to his/her liking? No.

Is it right to punish the quitter? Yes.

I don't care if you paid the same for your Halo 2 disk than me. The fact is, you (the quitter) are ruining many people's experiences over Live because of your selfishness. You ruin 3 other people's game in order to try and improve yours. That is selfish. If you really want that one gametype, gather some friends and play a Custom or unranked.

In my opinion, the only way to justify quitting is a family emergency. Answering the door? Takes less than a minute. If it's one of your buddies? You shouldn't have started a game to begin with.

Answer the phone? Again, takes little time.

Go to the bathroom/eat? C'mon, you should know that this is coming up and not start a game.

Leaving to go out? Again, plan ahead and don't start that game.

An emergency? Fine, go ahead and quit. But I don't know too many people that have more than 2 or so emergencies a day. Any more quits than that, and I will look on you as another quitter, set to ruin my gameplay to improve your own.

You know who else ruins my time for their own benefit? Modders. Standbyers. Cheaters. Don't make me mention quitters in the same breath.

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  • 05.17.2007 7:35 PM PDT
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k look dont go ranting on us we quit for resons like el rey i think said to eat ,crap ,or answer the phone like so.
i dont quit at all never ever., unless i have to crap reeeeeeaaaaallly bad i can wait to eat and take a message on the phone but still we quit for reasons.

now you do have a point people leave in skirmish and we probably will lose and i will not quit if im last. because i want to shuv it in they're face that i can beat the with no team mates.


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