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Posted by: DtritonP
the sword is a cheap weapon even if your the best halo player a noob can come up and kill you with basicly no skill at all. my 2nd choice would be the plasma pistol


exactly

  • 05.21.2007 2:58 PM PDT
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the needler is possibly the worst weapon to use on any map..no one ever uses it and it takes to long for the needles to reach your opponent

  • 05.21.2007 3:03 PM PDT

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Posted by: DtritonP
the sword is a cheap weapon even if your the best halo player a noob can come up and kill you with basicly no skill at all. my 2nd choice would be the plasma pistol


Sword actually had a downside, range, but plasma pistol is cheap EVERYWHERE.

  • 05.21.2007 3:50 PM PDT
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The sword is "cheap"? BxR is cheap. Double shots are cheap. The sword, just like other power weapons, is a risk/reward weapon. You expose yourself to somethings and gain advantage in others.

PP is overpowered, but the Combo isnt immortal. Just have a good ear for the sound it makes and youll be ok...

SMG is the most worthless (after the needler... DUH) if it isnt dual wielded.

  • 05.21.2007 4:12 PM PDT
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Weapons:

SMG: Its very good at duel wielding, its also good to use Frag grenade and slaughter them with bullets. Best Dual wiled combo is with the Brute Plasma Rife,Plasma Rifle and Plasma Pistol.

BR: Its a good 'anti-power weapon' its the best weapon in the game.

Sniper Rifle: Someone in the other team has the flag, almost home to score, you snipe them and they whine. Also has best range in the game.

Beam Rifle: You can't pick any ammo, you need a another Beam Rifle and it overheats.

Plasma Pistol,:Very Good in situations, the best weapon to dual wield with any weapon... except the Needler.

Brute Shot: If you have no grenades and someone is taking cover, this weapon saves the day.

Brute Plasma Rifle: Its a slaughter machine when dual wielded.

Plasma Rifle: Its weaker then the BPR, but you can shot more without overheating.

Shotgun: Someone is sneaking in your base, trying to get out, then bam you get -blam!- by a Shotgun.

Magnum: Its good with the Plasma Pistol, like a BR only smaller and has no scope and shots slower.

Carbine: Good in decent situations.

Sword: Its your last chance, bring this holy grail to slaughter everyone in your path.

Rocket Launcher: Oh -blam!-! The Tank his surrounding us! Don't panic the Launcher is here.

Sentinel Beam: Bring this non classifield weapon and burn them to dust.

Needler: Call sex appeal, cause its good at dual wielding, prepare to get your ass pointed.

Fragenmantion Grenade: What else then use it to take shields down of 2 guys fighting in FFA and killing them with a BR?

Plasma Grenade: We like seeing raw plasma explosions on someones ass.

  • 05.21.2007 4:20 PM PDT
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i hate the plasma pistol, i hate when u get newb comboed by it in double team, the whole game is basically decided upon who gets the newb combo (and i hate using it because its boring and requires no skill and makes me feel like a newb)

I usually just blow it off the map with a grenade.

  • 05.21.2007 5:34 PM PDT
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i really like all the guns especially if you get to know the strengths and weaknesses

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BR

SmG for life yo.


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  • 05.21.2007 9:14 PM PDT
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Plasma pistol. Im so tired of n00bed from behind.

  • 05.21.2007 9:44 PM PDT
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far as i see it the only real problem with the sword is it doesnt have ammo so you can keep using it which is wrong and the plasma should not track which would make that combo much harder. it didnt track in the first game far as i understand. then again in that game it was one of the most useless weapons ever. i think the sentinal beam should be removed. its just not that good far as i can tell.

  • 05.21.2007 10:16 PM PDT
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What's the big deal with the "n00b combo"? Admittedly, I'm a "n00b", but I don't understand what's the problem with it. It's a nice combo. I pick it up when I happen to have an SMG or Magnum and walk over a Plasma Pistol. So, I use it like once in 10 games or a little less. But it isn't as incredible as everybody is ranting about. In my opinion, the SMG/Magnum combo is MUCH better, it is pretty much an insta-kill if you get the aim right. The PP/SMG combo is easier to use, because the PP hits more reliably, but takes a few seconds longer to kill--long enough for them to counterattack. Plus, you have to charge the PP, which is annoying.

So, I'd say it's a balanced part of the game: Hits more reliably than SMG/Magnum, but has the downside of taking a bit longer to kill and having to charge it. Seems fair to me.

On topic, I think I'd take out the Plasma Rifle. Plasma Rifle by itself is pretty much useless, you have to be crazy good or sneak up behind somebody to get a kill. I've seen people dual-wielding PR/SMG and doing OK, but I've never been able to get the hang of it myself, so I think they could probably do that with anything, they're just better than me.

Plasma Rifle is useless, let's get rid of it.

  • 05.21.2007 11:44 PM PDT
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Posted by: Anith
What's the big deal with the "n00b combo"? Admittedly, I'm a "n00b", but I don't understand what's the problem with it. It's a nice combo. I pick it up when I happen to have an SMG or Magnum and walk over a Plasma Pistol. So, I use it like once in 10 games or a little less. But it isn't as incredible as everybody is ranting about. In my opinion, the SMG/Magnum combo is MUCH better, it is pretty much an insta-kill if you get the aim right. The PP/SMG combo is easier to use, because the PP hits more reliably, but takes a few seconds longer to kill--long enough for them to counterattack. Plus, you have to charge the PP, which is annoying.

So, I'd say it's a balanced part of the game: Hits more reliably than SMG/Magnum, but has the downside of taking a bit longer to kill and having to charge it. Seems fair to me.

On topic, I think I'd take out the Plasma Rifle. Plasma Rifle by itself is pretty much useless, you have to be crazy good or sneak up behind somebody to get a kill. I've seen people dual-wielding PR/SMG and doing OK, but I've never been able to get the hang of it myself, so I think they could probably do that with anything, they're just better than me.

Plasma Rifle is useless, let's get rid of it.


... you understand the combo is usually the PP and BR, right?

PR/SMG against a combo can't do -blam!- at even mid range, and if you're good probably not short range either if the PP is already charged.

  • 05.22.2007 12:01 AM PDT
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Not that I dont like the sword, actually I love that thing. But of course it sucks when someone else has it. You only have about a 40% chance of dodging it at any given time. It just needs a limit on use like in the campaign mode. So if you kill 5 people with it, it just runs out of ammo. I just still wanna know why you can't kill anyone with the plasma pistol. I mean if you shoot them (not the charge shot) You should still be able to put them down with it like in the first game.

  • 05.22.2007 12:52 AM PDT

This is a RETICULE, and that is a RETICLE. I'm using the latter to aim. And what are you using?

Though it was a close call between sword and plasma pistol, I voted for the sword for a couple of reasons.

1) There's practically no delay between switching to the sword and being able to use it, whereas it takes a few moments to charge up the plasma pistol.

2) Since there's practically no delay, this allows you to "hide" the sword. You don't run around with it (at least you shouldn't) but switch to it once you're within lunge range and immediately hit B. You'll cut down your target before it even sees the sword.

3) Unlike with any other weapon in H2, you never have to worry about running out of ammo or discharging it, respectively. The rocket launcher will eventually run out of ammo, as will the PP -- but not the sword.

4) A single hit from the plasma pistol doesn't kill you, it only depletes your shields. A single hit from the sword is instant death.

5) And even though the plasma pistol is belittled as just a part of the n00b combo, it's a good weapon to use in other combos: PP + magnum, PP + SMG, PP + melee, PP + grenade.

Posted by: CLARKISGODXXX
I just still wanna know why you can't kill anyone with the plasma pistol. I mean if you shoot them (not the charge shot) You should still be able to put them down with it like in the first game.
Unless that was changed in the recent update, it takes 17 hits on an opponent without shield to kill him.

[Edited on 05.22.2007 1:12 AM PDT]

  • 05.22.2007 1:08 AM PDT

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Posted by: DtritonP
the sword is a cheap weapon even if your the best halo player a noob can come up and kill you with basicly no skill at all. my 2nd choice would be the plasma pistol


exactly


You guys don't know how to kill "noobs" who have a sword?

[Edited on 05.22.2007 2:36 AM PDT]

  • 05.22.2007 1:25 AM PDT

Plz stop this noob combo talk! That combo is not noobish at all! If you got killed by it, why don't you use it yourself?? And don't say it's because you want to play fair and such! The Combo actually needs skills to be performed correctly, and it's really difficult from a distance. Anyway the PP is pretty good, if you're good at using it. Dual-wielded with a pistol makes it awesome, no-time kills if you got presicion.

The SMG is the worst weapon, that was what I voted anyway, I'm so tired of starting with the smg without a chance against players which had time to get a better weapon... but it is good against banshees.... I guess that the real worst weapon is the needler...

  • 05.22.2007 3:11 AM PDT

This is a RETICULE, and that is a RETICLE. I'm using the latter to aim. And what are you using?

Posted by: Sgt Petter
The SMG is the worst weapon, that was what I voted anyway, I'm so tired of starting with the smg without a chance against players which had time to get a better weapon...

I don't mind people who were merely faster than me. I do mind if the members of one team spawn next to BR, sniper, RL, etc. and the other team spawns at the back of beyond where just another SMG is lying around. It happens so often it's not even funny anymore. >:(

[Edited on 05.22.2007 5:16 AM PDT]

  • 05.22.2007 5:16 AM PDT
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Posted by: Sgt Petter
Plz stop this noob combo talk! That combo is not noobish at all! If you got killed by it, why don't you use it yourself?? And don't say it's because you want to play fair and such!...


Thank you Sgt Petter!

Everyone who complains about the combo should shut up and pick it up. You've all managed to fool yourselves into thinking that Plasma Pistol with BR is the WRONG way to play the game. That's why you complain about it. Well guess what? BUNGIE PUT IT IN ON PURPOSE! They knew what they were doing.

But wait, if the GAME DEVELOPERS put the Plasma Pistol in on PURPOSE, after months of testing and seeing people use the PP/BR without removing it from the final game, then that must be the RIGHT way to play the game.

This is basically what goes through all of your heads:
"WHOA!!! WHAT?! OH JEEZ!!! I'm supposed to pick up and use two guns that were put into the game on purpose? I can't believe this CRAP!!! AGH!!! And now the other team used it against me but I refused to pick it up because I want to play the game MY way, not the RIGHT way (which is BUNGIE's way). I want to play MY way which is the "RIGHT" way but the other team, since they used the weapons Bungie gave them, is playing the "WRONG way." Now I'm going to go onto the forums and complain and call everyone that uses it a n00b."

Wait, can you call everyone that uses it a n00b? Shoot, looks like you just ran into another obstacle. Pros use it all the time.


Now quit making your stupid arguments against n00b combo, come back to me and only argue against the Combo if you actually have some LOGIC this time.


SMG is horrible, it has no range. But Needler definitely needs to be taken out. Does absolutely nothing.

Of course, this is assuming the poll means, "If you could take a weapon out of Halo 2, what would it be?"

Not "If you could take a weapon out of Halo for Halo 3, what would it be?"

If you mean the latter of the two, don't take out anything because the weapon balance in H3 is pretty good right now, could use a little tweaking in the Carb vs. BR part of it and some of the anti-vehicle measures blow. Tracking on the PP in the Beta is also dramatically reduced but as a result, Bungie made it travel a lot faster. Needler is a beast.

  • 05.22.2007 8:25 AM PDT
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All the weapons seem to have a time and a place to use. The only gripe I have is that the sword should run out of energy like it does in the single player version. It sucks that someone who is good with the sword can just run around all game rampaging. It should run out of "ammo" just like every other weapon. At least make the sword guy find energy refills or something...

Steggy

  • 05.22.2007 9:08 AM PDT
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Posted by: xl OC Girl lx
Plasma Pistol for sure.

And to whoever voted for the Sniper Rifle, I hate you. Forever.
agreed i hate the plasma pistle, and love sniper

  • 05.22.2007 9:22 AM PDT
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Posted by: Sgt Petter
Plz stop this noob combo talk! That combo is not noobish at all! If you got killed by it, why don't you use it yourself?? And don't say it's because you want to play fair and such! The Combo actually needs skills to be performed correctly, and it's really difficult from a distance. Anyway the PP is pretty good, if you're good at using it. Dual-wielded with a pistol makes it awesome, no-time kills if you got presicion.

The SMG is the worst weapon, that was what I voted anyway, I'm so tired of starting with the smg without a chance against players which had time to get a better weapon... but it is good against banshees.... I guess that the real worst weapon is the needler...
i dont use it myself bacause i try to play with some honor. its sad how low some people will go to win a game (newb comboing) and if every1 started usein it halo wouldnt be much fun anymore.

[Edited on 05.22.2007 9:25 AM PDT]

  • 05.22.2007 9:24 AM PDT
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Posted by: R3DAC1DCAT
I say the sword should go cause its retarded. The thing is the size of Master chief anyways. How could he logically lunge that far with a sword in his hand? Yikes, I guess there is no logic in this game!
the master chief can pick up a 50 ton tank he can probaly lunge realy far with sword also.

  • 05.22.2007 9:37 AM PDT
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The weapon I would get rid of the BR.

  • 05.24.2007 3:34 PM PDT
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I mostly agree with CAVX. Some of the considered "noob" weapons do definitely benefit worse players. The more skilled player will eventually triumph in the end. I do think that the plasma pistol should definitely less "lock on" ability. I remember someone saying earlier in the post that the rocket launcher was super powerful and could kill someone really quick, but on 4v4 maps there is sometimes 2, but at least 1 plasma pistol on every map, and there is sometimes no rocket launcher but never more than 1 rocket launcher on small to medium sized maps. It doesn't happen really frequently that you are killed by the plasma pistol and something else, and very very rarely can change the outcome of a game, the plasma pistol is more of a nuisance than a power weapon. I voted for it to be out, because all the other weapons don't really aggravate me when I'm killed by it (except perhaps the rockets).

  • 05.24.2007 6:42 PM PDT

While I would not like to get rid of any of these weapons, several need modifications (yay for Halo 3). Namely the Sword, Plasma Pistol, and BR. Sword needs to be more difficult to use effectivly (it should take skill and lunge range should be reduced). The PP should keep its overcharge, but axe the homing ability. It's beyond cheap. BR's problem is stuff like BXR, doubleshot, quadshot, etc; and that's not really the weapon it's just some glitches with the engine.

  • 05.24.2007 6:53 PM PDT