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Subject: Question to halo1 die hard fans

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I AM A PROUD CHRISTIAN. HALO IS AWESOME BUT GOD IS MUCH BETTER!!!!!!!!
Did you knew that JESUSdied for you?

I heve a question for you is halo3 what you have expected or you still prefer halo1?

  • 05.20.2007 6:10 PM PDT
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Some people are stubborn and will refuse to play it if elements from Halo 2 are in it

[Edited on 05.20.2007 6:14 PM PDT]

  • 05.20.2007 6:14 PM PDT

Halo: CE > > Halo 3 > Halo: Reach = Halo 2

I'm enjoying halo 3 beta more then halo 2, but it still has the damn 70 degrees Field of Vision (FOV) tunnel-vision of halo 2. That deserves a big, WTF Bungie! I'd be content if theyd just put it back to the STANDARD 90 degrees FOV that halo 1 and every other damn FPS uses.

  • 05.21.2007 12:44 AM PDT

Some that I know are happy it's better than halo 2 and incidentally a little more like halo CE, but some are just calling it halo 2.5.

  • 05.21.2007 5:41 AM PDT
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I like all three for the different nuances that they each had. I love CE but H2 is undeniably awsome if not marginally better (aside for "the little things") but I'd say that Beta is just as if not better than H2. It's like falling in love with the needler all over again. I'm so happy!

  • 05.21.2007 12:12 PM PDT
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Like I said, some people are that stubborn. If Halo 3 is only like Halo 1 without anything from Halo 2, then the game is only 50% done

[Edited on 05.21.2007 5:08 PM PDT]

  • 05.21.2007 5:07 PM PDT

Halo: CE > > Halo 3 > Halo: Reach = Halo 2

Posted by: RL King
Like I said, some people are that stubborn. If Halo 3 is only like Halo 1 without anything from Halo 2, then the game is only 50% done

Being stubborn has nothing to do with it. We expect the series to be at least as good as halo 1, and if BUNGIE cannot at least live up to what they did with halo 1, then shame on them. BUNGIE took out a lot of the little details that made halo 1 so great.

  • 05.21.2007 5:49 PM PDT
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Halo 3 is definetly a step up from halo 2, but it still is nothing like the original. It still doesn't have that feel of an epic game.

Either way, I'm excited for halo 3, and I hope for the best. Even though I have many doubts with it being as good as Halo 1.

  • 05.22.2007 3:05 AM PDT
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We can't compare the beta to a complete game. The campaign will be the measuring stick as far as I'm concerned.

  • 05.23.2007 5:47 AM PDT

Moo

I don't own a 360, but from what I've heard, H3 replaced some of the H2 elements and went back to more of what HCE was like.

  • 05.23.2007 7:06 AM PDT
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I posted my thoughts on this in another thread in the H3B board.

LlamaKing happened to post there too and made some good points...

[edit: I was gonna to quote LlamaKings post but its very long and I'm over the character limit =s )

...Anyways I replied with.

Posted by: MichaelMH
Ok... first of all, that is one of the best pieces of writing I've ever seen on this forum. Secondly everything you said was right.


Posted by: LlamaKing
The common misconception with the pistol is that it is too easy to get a kill. I mean sure it takes 3 shots to get a kill, but how often do you actually land all 3 shots to kill? Given the Halo 2 auto-aim, yes i would agree that the pistol would be very inbalanced but almost every pistol enthusiest wants the pistol and its auto-aim back to the way it was in CE.

This is so true. The Pistol wasnt actually that accurate. I remember having pistol battles in blood gulch where people would empty whole clips and only take down half of a guys sheild. The Pistol may have been a 3 shot kill but it was a hell of alot harder to use that the BR/Carbine. I think any gamer in the world can consistently get headshots with the BR after only a few hours of play where as in Halo CE it took me months before I was good with the pistol.

Posted by: LlamaKing
My major gripe with halo 2 and halo 3 beta is that there still is too much auto-aim and it takes too long to kill somone. Whenever there is a 2v1 situation in halo 2/3 the 2 people always win because its too easy to get the kills and it takes too long to kill one person. At least in halo CE if the one person landed 3 good shots on one of the people, he would have a fighting chance against the second person.

This is also very true. I think the problem here is mainly the Assualt Rifle. Since you can't kill someone with a single clip you need to melee them to finish them off... ok great idea there but now theres another red/blue coming down the hill and you've got half sheilds and hes already begun firing at you.

Your F****d Basically. Ok, so you have half sheilds and this 2nd dude has begun firing at you. Now you gonna have to fight back, you can't run away because theres no where nearby to hide. Unforunatelly its too difficult to dodge his bullets effectively. AND untop of all of this you still need to fricken reload from that last kill. So If you somehow incrediblely reload and manage to dodge these incoming bullets then you have to empty this new clip into him. But wait! Even that wont kill him you then, after all of that, ethier need to melee him or reload and empty another clip into him. There is no way. There simplely just is no way. Its a gameplay flaw. Unless the person shooting you is a complete newbie to the game then you are dead. Perhaps if there grenades were more effective this would at least solve the problem a bit because at least then you could drop a suicide grenade before you die.

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My other Complaints with Halo 2/3B are that somethings are so gimped now for some reason.

The Shotgun
Not a huge thing but I'm just so annoyed with the shotgun now, In Halo CE you could *shock* use it in open areas effectively. It had a pretty decent range and so it should. Its a shotgun, yes but for christ sake you don't need to be right infront of someone to take them out. You need to be right next to someone in Halo 2/3B to kill them with it... I mean you might as well stap them. The sword has more range the thing. In Halo CE people -blam!- about how overpowered the pistol was but I can and have seen others easily take pistol weilding people out in open areas by running up to them with the shotgun.

The Plasma Rifle
The Plasma Rifle is so gimped now. I acutally like it in Halo 3B because it takes down sheilds so damn quick but its such a different weapon to the one in CE. What Bungie is trying to do with the assualt rifle and meleeing is just wrong. It sounds good until you add more than two people into the equation. The idea they have of making a weapon which can take down peoples sheilds but you need to melee them to finish them off is already in place in Halo CE!
The Plasma Rifle from Halo CE was so god damn fricken kickass, On full "whack" upto overheating point it took out somes sheilds but not only that it stuned them... and I mean proberbly stunned them, if you got hit by one you couldnt move like at all. This gave the player weilding the plamsa rifle time to run up and melee said player being stunned. And if they couldnt make it to the player in time there was also the kickass combo of plamsa rifle and shotgun. Take someones sheilds down and whip out the shotgun.
I purpose that the plasma rifles currently in the beta should become the new Brute Plasma Rifles, dual weildable weapons that fire fast and kill fast and that the old regular plasma rifle from Halo CE should come back in its single weildable stunning* form. (*no pun intended)

Vehicles
Ok, firstly and most importantly any vehicle when at full speed hitting another player should give an instant kill, if they jump over the vehicle and clip the top or dodge and hit the side perhaps only 1/2 sheilds down. Also I dunno if I'm a lone voice on this one but I... myself don't think destroyable vehicles is a good thing... respawning vehicles is for sure but I find most of the time that vehicles being destroyed is just a nuisance. Obviously when you fire a rocket at the thing all of the occupants should still die but I don't think the vehicle needs to be destroyed. I mean it dosnt add much if anything to gameplay and only makes the game more realistic but I ask you. Does Halo need to be realistic? I think it would be nice for at least the option to have invincible vehicles in custom games.

Also with the warthog... I dunno what it is but It just feels and looks so distant from Halo CE. In Halo CE the warthog was some badass super shiney space vehicle that and a nice bouncy feel to and was fairly difficult to tip over on routine drive to the enemy base. In Halo 3B the warthog looks likes something the US Army will develop in 2015. I find that when driving along on a straight if you hit a rock you suddenly start loosing control and while in this state if you make the slightest turn you end up rolling uncontrollably. And everytime you hit something or go off a jump theres a crunch and bang and you come to a dead stop. In Halo CE you could launch off cliff sides, 360 the thing, do front flips, Power slide it then jump out and fling yourself through a base door. Now it just feels so heavy and doesnt feel like it handles itself that well off road.

Anyways, these are just my thoughts on certain things in the game.


The actual topic is here

  • 05.23.2007 7:30 AM PDT

Finally playing Halo Reach!

Posted by: Kalzilla
We can't compare the beta to a complete game. The campaign will be the measuring stick as far as I'm concerned.


I whole-heartedly agree, the Campaign mode will by my measuring stick as well. I can still put Halo CE in and enjoy playing the whole game through, even the Library. However with Halo 2, I find myself skipping certain levels because they just don't feel the same, they are not as interesting. I enjoy the added dual-wielding of Halo 2, and of course the cosmetic upgrades. I hope Halo 3 will revert to the same "feel" as Halo CE yet with the more advanced visuals.

Of course, no matter what they do, I'll buy the game, buy a 360, and play it for hours.

  • 05.23.2007 11:04 AM PDT
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So far, i have been impressed with bungie in the beta. They seem to have worked out some of the major problems with halo 2, but i still dont think they understand what made h1 so great. It was the speed of play that made it fun. H3 is still too slow. Maybe it is just because all the people i keep getting matched up with are dual wielding morons and they take years to find because they all go hide.....

Overall h1 is still better by a long shot, but h3 is already miles beyond halo 2.

  • 05.23.2007 3:54 PM PDT
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Posted by: MadroKurgan
I'm enjoying halo 3 beta more then halo 2, but it still has the damn 70 degrees Field of Vision (FOV) tunnel-vision of halo 2. That deserves a big, WTF Bungie! I'd be content if theyd just put it back to the STANDARD 90 degrees FOV that halo 1 and every other damn FPS uses.


Don't mind me asking but, what do you mean 70 degrees?

  • 05.23.2007 5:38 PM PDT
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Posted by: MadroKurgan
Posted by: RL King
Like I said, some people are that stubborn. If Halo 3 is only like Halo 1 without anything from Halo 2, then the game is only 50% done

Being stubborn has nothing to do with it. We expect the series to be at least as good as halo 1, and if BUNGIE cannot at least live up to what they did with halo 1, then shame on them. BUNGIE took out a lot of the little details that made halo 1 so great.


Some people just didn't like Halo 2, I think it outdid Halo 1, that is my honest opinion, but there are some people saying that Halo 3 should not have any elements from Halo 2 in the game, and that is being stubborn

[Edited on 05.23.2007 6:55 PM PDT]

  • 05.23.2007 6:55 PM PDT
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H3 is fun but H2 is still better.

  • 05.23.2007 9:05 PM PDT
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H2 is garbage and H3 Beta reminds me way too much of H2, so I still enjoy H1 waaaaay more. I just wish they would put H1 on XBL and I would be satisfied forever!

  • 05.23.2007 9:41 PM PDT

H3 Beta Player

Halo 3 adds new levels of gameplay
some i like some i dont but it is still very fun
I see problems but the beta can still improve
people who call this Halo 2.5 over the graphics show go stick a copy of Gow up their Frag holes

[Edited on 05.24.2007 5:22 PM PDT]

  • 05.24.2007 5:21 PM PDT
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Now why does everyone hate Gears of War, I thought it was a great game, and I can't wait for the sequel

  • 05.24.2007 9:14 PM PDT
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It's decent for a few days but it gets old really fast. All the games are too similar and theres no depth in the games. Plus the game is really glitchy and the coding is pretty poor in terms of registering hits.

  • 05.24.2007 9:25 PM PDT
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Are you kidding me? I can play the same level over and over and it doesn't tire me out, well I play it on Insane and the fights are always intense

  • 05.24.2007 9:27 PM PDT
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I'm talking about xbox live and multiplayer. If you're talking about campaign then yes it still gets stale. The only level thats good on GOW is the level where you're on the bridge and you're fighting off the loads of enemies. The boss battles make the whole game a lot less fun.

  • 05.25.2007 2:45 AM PDT

Personally I think Gears of War is fantastic. It's not perfect, but it's the most refreshing and unique shooter to come out in a while. It's a game that rewards perseverance and an open mind.

  • 05.25.2007 3:53 AM PDT
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Carrots.

honestly, I like halo 2 better then halo 1 and halo 1 better then the beta.

  • 05.25.2007 4:18 PM PDT

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