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When Bungie was first founded, it was set with one goal in mind. To provide Mac users with the highest quality gaming performance, offering such games the legendary Marathon and Myth series. As it was developing an entirely new game, soon to be refered to as "Halo," the game was consumed by the Microsoft giant, and the rest is history. But what has happened to their original target market. Let's step out of "they were only making games for Mac users," and expand the idea to say, "their original target market were the computer gamers of the time." What has happened to this target market since then? Following their last game that was ever made for the computer, Myth, they have produced Halo and Halo2, both for Microsoft's Xbox. It appears that the once devoted Bungie has turned their backs towards their loyal computer gamers, and have turned rather towards acting as a major advertisement for Microsoft's gaming systems, urging people to buy the consoles purely to play one of the best FPSs ever made. Am I the only one here that thinks that Bungie has "gone to pot" ever since Microsoft has bought it over? The only Bungie related games that I am aware of are Halo PC, which was created by Gearbox, a mediocre gaming company that produced a mediocre port at best, and Halo 2 Vista, which from what I have heard has numerous upgrades, but is still far from making up for the three year time gap. Am I the only one here that honestly believes that Bungie is NO LONGER about providing excellent gaming experiences, as it is to be the "slave boy" to Microsoft, and to serve to create the Flagship games, to promote their consoles. I don't feel as though I'm the only one to believe this, however, I'm surprised that no one has really addressed this.

  • 05.20.2007 6:12 PM PDT
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let me guess your a mac gamer? GET OVER IT

  • 05.20.2007 6:18 PM PDT

Oh my Hell, not again....
Ok there is one word that helps the most.
"Microsoft"
and just in case you don't understand.
"Welcome to Microsoft, we own your life, every where you go, a part of Microsoft will be there. Deal with it! "
No, Halo 2, and Halo 3 are going to be ported to the macs.
No, Halo 2, and Halo 3 are going to be ported to Windows XP.
sorry guy, but this thread fails, and this thread should be locked.

  • 05.20.2007 6:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: Gauntlet
let me guess your a mac gamer? GET OVER IT

One word. "NO." I am a Windows Vista owner who is angered at the fact that the Bungie experience is less than half of what it should be.

  • 05.20.2007 6:20 PM PDT
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Posted by: Recoton007
Posted by: Gauntlet
let me guess your a mac gamer? GET OVER IT

One word. "NO." I am a Windows Vista owner who is angered at the fact that the Bungie experience is less than half of what it should be.
ok i read the first few words and my mind went rant.......no read

  • 05.20.2007 6:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: Recoton007
When Bungie was first founded, it was set with one goal in mind. To provide Mac users with the highest quality gaming performance, offering such games the legendary Marathon and Myth series. As it was developing an entirely new game, soon to be refered to as "Halo," the game was consumed by the Microsoft giant, and the rest is history. But what has happened to their original target market. Let's step out of "they were only making games for Mac users," and expand the idea to say, "their original target market were the computer gamers of the time." What has happened to this target market since then? Following their last game that was ever made for the computer, Myth, they have produced Halo and Halo2, both for Microsoft's Xbox. It appears that the once devoted Bungie has turned their backs towards their loyal computer gamers, and have turned rather towards acting as a major advertisement for Microsoft's gaming systems, urging people to buy the consoles purely to play one of the best FPSs ever made. Am I the only one here that thinks that Bungie has "gone to pot" ever since Microsoft has bought it over? The only Bungie related games that I am aware of are Halo PC, which was created by Gearbox, a mediocre gaming company that produced a mediocre port at best, and Halo 2 Vista, which from what I have heard has numerous upgrades, but is still far from making up for the three year time gap. Am I the only one here that honestly believes that Bungie is NO LONGER about providing excellent gaming experiences, as it is to be the "slave boy" to Microsoft, and to serve to create the Flagship games, to promote their consoles. I don't feel as though I'm the only one to believe this, however, I'm surprised that no one has really addressed this.


We do feel your anger agaisnt Bungie/Microsoft's original goal. Whats more, If you were here for some time you would also have noticed that they stopped posting anything on the front page even about computers. They didn't even inform us of any delay for H2V or any of that. Then again, most of the profit comes from Xbox and such, no thinking gamers, people. Who knows, perhaps things might change.

  • 05.20.2007 6:37 PM PDT

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...and they have made gazillions because they released it on the X-box exclusively. Never would have made as much if they had released it on Mac and that is why they are content with their desicion. They made a sound business decision and profited greatly from it.

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"What a great aid to governments that people don't think"
-Adof Hitler

That can sum this up in one sentence. The majority of console goers are idiots and can be easily tricked and tried by big companies like M$ to do what they want. And now that they have such a strong grip on console goers to buy an xbox because of this one game, there really is no reason to spend more time trying to flush back the more intelligent PC community to buy stuff. Why? Because we don't sell ourselves to a company because of one game.

  • 05.20.2007 7:07 PM PDT
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bungies owned by microsoft noe. so ofcourse they wont make mac games anymore.

  • 05.20.2007 10:02 PM PDT

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They are a business, why would they go against the ideals that give them money, and a bed to sleep in at night. I think it's more M$ than Bungie, and besides you don't need Bungie making games for the computer unless they are superb, and to many H2V will be anything but superb. The truth of the matter is that Halo 2 Vista will not be the same for the PC as it was for the console. Why? Because it offers nothing new and/or innovative, and there are way better FPS's out there.

  • 05.21.2007 4:29 AM PDT
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let me guess your a mac gamer? GET OVER IT

Yeah, but for how long must we "get over" all the stuff that Bungie pulls on us PC/Mac gamers? Sure, we find ways to cope without their support; maybe its for the best, who knows....it sure beats having the forums spammed with "Bungie do this! Bungie do that! Please our ego and you will get 5 more minutes of silence before we complain about something else." like the Halo 2 forums are on B.net.

  • 05.21.2007 6:37 AM PDT
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Posted by: jhirsch
bungies owned by microsoft noe. so ofcourse they wont make mac games anymore.

Halo PC was on mac wasnt it?

I wish we would have got Halo 2 PC sooner but I understand the need for halo on xbox platforms first.

  • 05.21.2007 2:35 PM PDT

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As long as i get to play a decent game, whatever happens to make it work, i don't care. Halo 1 i very much enjoyed, i thought it was an amazing game. Halo 2 i am hoping to enjoy very very soon.

I imagine what has happened with H2V, is that Hired Gun are in a last minute frenzy, trying to get everything sorted out. Jo Clowe (i believe her name is) has recently made a confirmation video on what to expect from the game, work they've done on it and new features, so they are trying. It's just that they're actually quite a small team, about 10 of them. However, to do the port and extremely well, they needed a far greater number of resources available to them from Microsoft than they got. So now, it's just one big scramble to get it all together. Expect to hear something blurted out from either a worn-out looking Jo within the next week or so, or at least an update notice.

  • 05.21.2007 3:21 PM PDT
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Posted by: Master_Dragon
As long as i get to play a decent game


Decent? HPC was such a bad port, we're the laughing stock of the PC community.

  • 05.21.2007 3:44 PM PDT
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Posted by: Master_Dragon
As long as i get to play a decent game, whatever happens to make it work, i don't care. Halo 1 i very much enjoyed, i thought it was an amazing game. Halo 2 i am hoping to enjoy very very soon.

I imagine what has happened with H2V, is that Hired Gun are in a last minute frenzy, trying to get everything sorted out. Jo Clowe (i believe her name is) has recently made a confirmation video on what to expect from the game, work they've done on it and new features, so they are trying. It's just that they're actually quite a small team, about 10 of them. However, to do the port and extremely well, they needed a far greater number of resources available to them from Microsoft than they got. So now, it's just one big scramble to get it all together. Expect to hear something blurted out from either a worn-out looking Jo within the next week or so, or at least an update notice.


Hired gun like you said was really small, actually it was probably lower than 10 people. From the few photos of the porting team on their blog, there were only 4 people in it.......

So your probably right about them having not enough time or the resources and that well probably be seeing quite a few patches.

[Edited on 05.21.2007 3:57 PM PDT]

  • 05.21.2007 3:56 PM PDT
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You do know that Microsoft owns Bungie, right?

  • 05.21.2007 3:57 PM PDT
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I am not saying that Bungie should start making games for the mac. As a matter a fact, I purposely stated that it should go back to making COMPUTER games, meaing games for windows and so forth. I KNOW Microsoft owns Bungie, as I have made it abundantly clear, however, I am shocked at how little control Bungie's administration has over its own company. It is no longer making any games for other consoles or for the computer, let alone any games besides Halo. I feel that it is a shame, how Bungie was just bought over by Microsoft, and is now no longer the great game company that it was, but rather a slave to Microsoft, living off of the name of a single great game that is Halo, which purely serves to sell the Microsoft Xbox and now Xbox 360. It's a damn shame.

  • 05.23.2007 6:29 PM PDT

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Only one problem– Bungie is not a computer game manufacturer anymore. They make games for the X-Box. There are other companies that make computer games. Ask them to give you a game that has everything you wanted in Halo and never got.

I played Marathon way back and loved it. So did a bunch of friends. We started planning a game, which was almost exactly what Halo was– spacemen shooting aliens, and in multi player, each other, with driveable vehicles. The need to earn a living got in the way and the dream died. Then Halo came out on the Mac and, except for the lag and the stoooopid FRG, it's everything I ever wanted in a game.

  • 05.23.2007 8:32 PM PDT