Halo 1 & 2 for PC
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Subject: Looks like i'm buying a 360 now.
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Delays?
No word from anyone official?
Glitches?
Lack of content?
Poor Optimisation?
No online rankings even though we're PAYING?

I'm sick of it. PC Gaming should be the best, it has masses of potential. But no, we just get ports and rushed jobs. I know most of you don't really care, but i've had enough.

I'll probably still get Crysis, Alan Wake and Shadowrun for PC but I get the feeling the console versions will end up with more features (except Crysis, since the consoles can't run it).

  • 05.21.2007 6:54 AM PDT
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shadowrun will not be better on the xbox. you want to know why? because it is the exact game on the pc and xbox people have to pay 10$ more and HAVE to pay live fees whereas we dont have to.

and of course manufactures are giving everything to consoles (just about anyway) you want to know why? because there is more money in it than pc. for console they can charge for MP, for console they can jack the price up because it is more difficult to pirate, for console they can make a shotty consol that will work for only a short period of time and then will crap out forcing the customer to buy a new one (thus saving on manufacturing cost and increasing revenue) where as with a pc people buy them from other manufacturers where there isnt a monopoly so people get to choose who to buy from and therefor will choose the best product (or build their own).

but hey we still have graphics, no limitations to game size because of our HD, cutting edge tech (ie: crysis) ect.

  • 05.21.2007 7:17 AM PDT
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I said I will get Shadowrun on PC.

But no doubt the 360 players get some better features.

  • 05.21.2007 7:30 AM PDT
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360 players get motion blurr and PC players don't. Apparently they don't know how to do motion blur with the PC or something. Also 1440x900 resolution may be missing.

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Why even bother making it for PC then?

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I don't know what's with them...
There was no PC beta and now they have no announcement for a PC demo either, just a 360 demo. Do they want anyone with a PC to buy shadowrun at all?

  • 05.21.2007 8:10 AM PDT
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well they make more money with 360 players so thats y

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Posted by: Romanticide
Delays?
No word from anyone official?
Glitches?
Lack of content?
Poor Optimisation?
No online rankings even though we're PAYING?

I'm sick of it. PC Gaming should be the best, it has masses of potential. But no, we just get ports and rushed jobs. I know most of you don't really care, but i've had enough.

I'll probably still get Crysis, Alan Wake and Shadowrun for PC but I get the feeling the console versions will end up with more features (except Crysis, since the consoles can't run it).
Wow, Halo 2 Vista turns out to be a crap-ass port and thus the entire PC gaming genre is affected by this?

That's like saying you bought and used a crappy HDTV and thus are turned away from all HDTVs just because you were unfortunate enough to experience a low-quality product, and you let that one experience affect your feelings toward all HDTVs.

Posted by: CommanderZx2
360 players get motion blurr and PC players don't. Apparently they don't know how to do motion blur with the PC or something. Also 1440x900 resolution may be missing.
...What are you smoking?

[Edited on 05.21.2007 11:48 AM PDT]

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Posted by: CommanderZx2
360 players get motion blurr and PC players don't. Apparently they don't know how to do motion blur with the PC or something. Also 1440x900 resolution may be missing

...What are you smoking?


[Edited on 05.21.2007 11:59 AM PDT]

  • 05.21.2007 11:58 AM PDT
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Posted by: Master Kim
Posted by: Romanticide
Delays?
No word from anyone official?
Glitches?
Lack of content?
Poor Optimisation?
No online rankings even though we're PAYING?

I'm sick of it. PC Gaming should be the best, it has masses of potential. But no, we just get ports and rushed jobs. I know most of you don't really care, but i've had enough.

I'll probably still get Crysis, Alan Wake and Shadowrun for PC but I get the feeling the console versions will end up with more features (except Crysis, since the consoles can't run it).
Wow, Halo 2 Vista turns out to be a crap-ass port and thus the entire PC gaming genre is affected by this?

That's like saying you bought and used a crappy HDTV and thus are turned away from all HDTVs just because you were unfortunate enough to experience a low-quality product, and you let that one experience affect your feelings toward all HDTVs.

Posted by: CommanderZx2
360 players get motion blurr and PC players don't. Apparently they don't know how to do motion blur with the PC or something. Also 1440x900 resolution may be missing.
...What are you smoking?



Haha. Not quite.

It's true that PC Gamers are getting stuck with really bad ports. Look at it like this.

We got DMC 3! But it performed and looked worse than the PS2 Version
We got RE 4! See Above (looked a lot worse than Ps2 version
We got Double Agent! Oh the horror
We got R6 Vegas! Oh the horror
We got Oblivion! With a dumbed down interface and Gameplay.
We got TR: Legend! Riddled with performance issues. (to be fair it did get patched eventually).
We got Test Drive Unlimited! Without any downloadable content, unbelievably bad (worse than Halo PC) netcode, horrible graphical glitches...the list is long.
We got Halo 2! Only after nearly 3 years but now with a poor map maker and no stat tracking.

There's a lot more than that too. I'm not just saying "Halo 2 is bad therefore PC gaming has gone to pot. I'm saying we get left with bad ports of the best games far too often. We should be the ones with the best graphics, performance and content, but instead we're left last to pick up the shards.

Developers now care about one thing. Sales. People are scared of PC Gaming so we get the lowest priority.

  • 05.21.2007 3:20 PM PDT

Gaming Systems:
Intel Core i7 720QM (4 cores, 8 threads)
4Gb DDR3-1333mhz
1Gb AMD Radeon HD 4650
Windows 7 64bit

Xbox 360 w/ 20Gb HDD (2008 edition) & XBL Gold.

I don't care what you're excuses are, but you sir, are a trator to PCGaming. I wish you well on your short journey to console noob-heaven!

There is more to PCGaming....than Halo 2.

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Posted by: Romanticide
It's true that PC Gamers are getting stuck with really bad ports. Look at it like this.

We got DMC 3! But it performed and looked worse than the PS2 Version
We got RE 4! See Above (looked a lot worse than Ps2 version
We got Double Agent! Oh the horror
We got R6 Vegas! Oh the horror
We got Oblivion! With a dumbed down interface and Gameplay.
We got TR: Legend! Riddled with performance issues. (to be fair it did get patched eventually).
We got Test Drive Unlimited! Without any downloadable content, unbelievably bad (worse than Halo PC) netcode, horrible graphical glitches...the list is long.
We got Halo 2! Only after nearly 3 years but now with a poor map maker and no stat tracking.

There's a lot more than that too. I'm not just saying "Halo 2 is bad therefore PC gaming has gone to pot. I'm saying we get left with bad ports of the best games far too often. We should be the ones with the best graphics, performance and content, but instead we're left last to pick up the shards.

Developers now care about one thing. Sales. People are scared of PC Gaming so we get the lowest priority.
Are you joking me? You're letting bad ports affect your entire perspective on PC gaming?

By the way, Oblivion is vastly superior on the PC to the Xbox 360. Just thought you should know.

Posted by: Master_Dragon
There is more to PCGaming....than Halo 2.
My point exactly. Or bad ports.

  • 05.21.2007 4:12 PM PDT
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What? I SAID THAT THERE'S MORE THAN HALO 2.

READ what I posted. I said we rarely get a good game, where as 360 gets tons of attention with games coming at it from all angles that arent crap ports.

I know PC has some great titles coming to it, and I will still play them. I'm venting my anger, and saying that PC Gamers are just dropping like flies.

  • 05.21.2007 4:21 PM PDT
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Posted by: Romanticide
What? I SAID THAT THERE'S MORE THAN HALO 2.

READ what I posted. I said we rarely get a good game, where as 360 gets tons of attention with games coming at it from all angles that arent crap ports.
I believe that's false. It's not like the Xbox 360, let alone the other consoles, don't have their share of craptastic or inferior ports. Quake IV. Battlestations: Midway. LOTR: BFME II. C&C3.

Posted by: Romanticide
I know PC has some great titles coming to it, and I will still play them. I'm venting my anger, and saying that PC Gamers are just dropping like flies.
That's why 8.5 million of them are playing World of Warcraft alone. Alone.

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  • 05.21.2007 4:33 PM PDT
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Well, well always have Blizzard Games with the Starcraft, Diablo, Warcraft series along with its MMORPG World of Warcraft! The PC will always have the best technology and First Person shooters due to technology and software along with the keyboard and mouse. We also have awesome RTS games to come, along with PC exclusives like Quake Wars.

One example of a great RTS to come that has no plans to go to the console as stated by blizzard entertainment is this!!!!

Starcraft 2: HELL, IT'S ABOUT TIME! :D



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I know, I play WoW. I have a lvl 70 too.

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Posted by: CommanderZx2
360 players get motion blurr and PC players don't. Apparently they don't know how to do motion blur with the PC or something. Also 1440x900 resolution may be missing.
Yeah, 1080i ftw!

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Posted by: Romanticide
I know, I play WoW. I have a lvl 70 too.
Well, then, at least you know that PC gaming is still going strong and that there are still plenty of PC gamers out there.

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Anyway, just think how we look to the general PC community. H2V will be a failure. Pay to play online, autoaim on a PC game, instant kill button glitches, weakest editor EVER, and the simple fact that it's a port of a console game that wasn't even all that good.

  • 05.21.2007 4:46 PM PDT
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Posted by: darekster2ongame
Anyway, just think how we look to the general PC community. H2V will be a failure. Pay to play online, autoaim on a PC game, instant kill button glitches, weakest editor EVER, and the simple fact that it's a port of a console game that wasn't even all that good.


You don't have to pay to play. Silver memberships to GFW are free, and there's nothing wothwhile in the Gold membership. However. Everything else you said was true. -blam!- optimization, macro insta-kill glitches, terrible graphics except on uber-leet gaming comps, no stat tracking, no real editing tools, controller autoaim, only two new maps and no Desolation/Tombstone.... yeah.

This hasn't exactly been a good few years for PC shooters. With the exception of S.T.A.L.K.E.R, which is really more of a RPG, there haven't really been any top-end PC FPS's for about three years. Let's just hope for Shadowrun, Bioshock and Crysis. Otherwise, I may well be selling that computer in my basement to buy a 360. Hell, even a PS3 would be better than what we've got now. And that's saying something.

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What about Battlefield 2142? I consider that a good FPS.

  • 05.21.2007 5:09 PM PDT
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Remember we always have crysis and spore.
SPORE FTW! >.<!

  • 05.21.2007 5:23 PM PDT

Slaying noobs since 2007.

Meh, I hate BF:2142 (because of ea's stupid checkin system), and why is this guy naming all ports? I mean take a look at F.E.A.R., obviously not worse then the console version. What about PC exclusives? Hhhmmmm........... sounds like someone hasn't had their daily dose of n00b today.

  • 05.21.2007 5:41 PM PDT
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Does no one read what I post at all?

I did actually say I know there are some great games coming to PC. This is the the THIRD time i've had to say this now.

I SAID, that most of the good games, like I mentioned come to PC with so little care that it's amazing that a developer can even think for a second that it's acceptable to release it like that.

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Infact a perfect example is Shadowrun. MS' Flagship title for Vista.

A 360 demo is happily confirmed yet not one word of a PC demo at all.

  • 05.21.2007 6:15 PM PDT

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