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Subject: Games for Windows and Live anywhere are doomed
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MS seem to have forgotten that we're playing on PC's. Not Consoles. You can't turn the PC into a console.

  • 05.21.2007 5:58 PM PDT

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What are you talking about? Live Anywhere offers cross-platform play, how is that doomed?

  • 05.21.2007 6:00 PM PDT
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Yes you can. What do you think the PS3 is? Oh right.... a grill.

  • 05.21.2007 6:00 PM PDT
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Doomed? Now I can play with my friends who have consoles. That's just damn cool

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  • 05.21.2007 6:02 PM PDT

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Posted by: MrNick01
Yes you can. What do you think the PS3 is? Oh right.... a grill.

Oh yes, grill!!!! "Guess what guys I went out and spent $600 on a grill/paper weight." - Sony Fanboy

  • 05.21.2007 6:03 PM PDT
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I think this thread fails as explaining it'self. Wth are you talking about?

  • 05.21.2007 6:03 PM PDT
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I'm saying it seems quite like my PC will be turned in to an Xbox 360. Why does the interface assume i'm using a 360 pad?

  • 05.21.2007 6:04 PM PDT
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Live anywhere is probably the key to true next gen gaming.

[Edited on 05.21.2007 6:08 PM PDT]

  • 05.21.2007 6:07 PM PDT

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Posted by: The Crestomizer
I think this thread fails as explaining it'self. Wth are you talking about?

  • 05.21.2007 6:07 PM PDT
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Posted by: Romanticide
I'm saying it seems quite like my PC will be turned in to an Xbox 360. Why does the interface assume i'm using a 360 pad?

I don't know about you, but I sure am. It's more convienient to press a button then to move my mouse and click.

Moreover, I think it is a lot more creative and cooler than using conventional buttons.

But seriously... how does a UI determine is an entire network will succeed\fail.

  • 05.21.2007 6:08 PM PDT
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Posted by: Romanticide
I'm saying it seems quite like my PC will be turned in to an Xbox 360. Why does the interface assume i'm using a 360 pad?

Yep, that sucks. I'm determined to not buy a single games for windows live game until they figure out I don't want a console game I want a PC game.

  • 05.21.2007 6:09 PM PDT
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Posted by: CommanderZx2
Posted by: Romanticide
I'm saying it seems quite like my PC will be turned in to an Xbox 360. Why does the interface assume i'm using a 360 pad?

Yep, that sucks. I'm determined to not buy a single games for windows live game until they figure out I don't want a console game I want a PC game.


That is the most retarded thing I ever have read in my life.

  • 05.21.2007 6:10 PM PDT

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Then buy a pc game. ;)
What about Crysis? Oh btw, BioShock is a GFW. You're right Pancho....

[Edited on 05.21.2007 6:12 PM PDT]

  • 05.21.2007 6:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: Desert Fox RWTF
Then buy a pc game. ;)
What about Crysis? Oh btw, BioShock is a GFW.

Games for windows is not the same thing as Games for windows LIVE.
The LIVE part is the retard part.

  • 05.21.2007 6:12 PM PDT
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It's true. I feel uncomfortable with the interface, it's a little TOO user friendly. I mean, if I wanted to see "press A or B" i'd have bought a 360 instead of my new PC. Plus what exactly are we paying £40 a year for? Features we've had for a very log time for free.

  • 05.21.2007 6:13 PM PDT
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Posted by: CommanderZx2
Games for windows is not the same thing as Games for windows LIVE.
The LIVE part is the retard part.

I'm thinking the CommanderZx2 part is the retard part. Let's hear the reasons to your logic (NO, the UI does not count).

  • 05.21.2007 6:13 PM PDT

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Beat me to it Nick.

  • 05.21.2007 6:16 PM PDT
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It's called LIVE Anywhere, not games for windows LIVE CommanderZx2.

  • 05.21.2007 6:16 PM PDT
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I have to agree with the post actually.

The whole network is a load of fail (pardon the expression). I liked my PC gaming that way it was. Untouched by the ways of the console.

1) It takes skill to use a keyboard and mouse, but now we'll have to pit ourselves against players using Xbox controllers with their auto aim filth.

2) No game that comes out for Live and has the option to play with Xbox 360 players will ever take advantage of the true power a PC has to offer for the simple reason that it's unlikely we'll see a ported game with vasty superior graphics that can get the most out of a high end PC.

3) I like my dedicated servers. Not so much user created rooms when it comes to FPS. One reason is so everyone can have a fair playing field and not have to worry about being bridged out the game, or have other network related cheats used against them. A sub point here is that the whole system is focused on Americans. Not meaning to offend, but I do like to play against UK players in UK servers where I'm not at a 200-300+ms disadvantage every single game like in Halo 2.

4) It seems the trend is to dumb everything down, including the replacing of ping bars with colour bar charts that will tell you a 200ms ping is A.O.K. Wrong! It's not okay in an FPS. I blame console gaming for this. Oh, also the whole thing with system ratings because people can't be bothered to learn a small amount about hardware.

5) I don't really like having to pay a yearly fee to pay games I own online. This is not the way of PC gaming. I might understand more if it was optional to have access to hundreds of dedicated servers. But, we don't get that.

6) PC gaming is where to go for user created content, I can only see the Live system trying to stomp on that with all their run from the disc plans and so on.

7) I don't like having to sign into one network for all my games (I can see all MS published games doing this with Live). Heck, if I fail to renew my account in time, I've lost my name permanently (you can't recover your Live name if you fail to renew) and bye bye all my stats, friends etc!

I'm sure there are more points, but 7 is good to start.

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  • 05.21.2007 6:19 PM PDT
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Exactly. also not only do consoles get stupid amounts of auto aim. Our high end Mice get totally gimped in the process.

  • 05.21.2007 6:22 PM PDT
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wow, just wow. Now we're complaining because the GUI (user interface) is too user friendly? and because it sais A button, B button ect.
honestly, theres alot more wrong with this world then this. this thread fails, the guy that started this fails, and those who support it ultimatly fail.
If you want to downgrade to another system because your offended by a service that is new and has alot of potential....i'm lost for words....

  • 05.21.2007 6:23 PM PDT
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wow, just wow. Now we're complaining because the GUI (user interface) is too user friendly? and because it sais A button, B button ect.
honestly, theres alot more wrong with this world then this. this thread fails, the guy that started this fails, and those who support it ultimatly fail.
If you want to downgrade to another system because your offended by a service that is new and has alot of potential....i'm lost for words....



[Edited on 05.21.2007 6:25 PM PDT]

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A lot of potential?

X fire has more features to it, and how much am I paying for such excellent service? Not one Penny.

Live costs and for what exactly?

  • 05.21.2007 6:25 PM PDT
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*cough*cross-platform gameplay*cough*

  • 05.21.2007 6:27 PM PDT
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i supose that Xfire offers , as people above has stated, potential to Cross-Platform play? Although we PC gamers have had pride in free online/multiplayer additions to games, Microsoft is offering us excellent service for such things. Of course, at the cost of money. you can still go online with a silver account by all means BTW.

  • 05.21.2007 6:28 PM PDT