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Posted by: WartHogRacerman3
No, Vista is doomed. H2 should be on XP.
I agree with the latter, but the former is an absurd statement.

  • 05.22.2007 4:54 PM PDT
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Posted by: Synthmilk
I'm sorry, did I just read 6 pages of -blam!-ing about crap that no one here is forced to use?

Because I'm sure I did, I just can't believe it. Since when is a UI reason to bash a service? "I don't like that it has 'press A for this or B for that'", good god people, grow up. And the whole "50 bucks a year for services we can get for free" thing is just as moronic, you don't need to use Windows Live Gold, just wait for those great free pieces of software you love so much to include H2V.

Most of them you don't even need to wait for, so what's the problem?

And this:


Posted by: CommanderZx2
At the moment I'm not going to buy Halo 2V, I see no point. Maybe if it falls in price to the bargin bin I may consider it. Still even if I get it out of the bargin bin I won't be paying for live gold service.


If you own a 360, why are you here? As obviously you have played Halo 2, and thus there is no reason for you to play it on PC, as obviously you care not for the fact you can do all these great things that XBox Live makes you pay for, free of charge on the PC, and don't wish to play Halo 2 with a KB&M, nore play any of the custom maps people will be churning out.

All then there's all these people -blam!-ing about how controllers will ruin Halo 2 multiplayer. Have you EVEN PLAYED THE GAME FIRST? Hmmm, no, you haven't, so why don't you STFU and stop whining over non-existant problems.

All I see are the supposed "Ancients" of The Maw complaining over non-issues. Boo Hoo, Bungie doesn't love us, they didn't port Halo 2. Boo Hoo, Bungie doesn't love us, their porting Halo 2 to Vista, Boo Hoo, Bungie doesn't love us, the map editor doesn't include a free copy of 3dsMax, so we can only make maps with existing Halo 2 geometry. Boo Hoo, Bungie doesn't love us, they didn't make Live Gold free just like all our other free programs that do the same thing, just without matchmaking and stuff.

You don't DESERVE Bungie's love you ungrateful losers, I would rather see this forum dead than filled with the likes of this crap.


exactly what is the great service XBL offers? match making? you do know how XBL works, right? the fact that companies not even a wealthy as MS are offering the same thing for free just shows how greedy MS is. voice chatting is not available cause of live. its in the games, you can even do it on LAN. so you are basically paying say hey i wanna play this game type and XBL sets up a random game following the rules of the game type and then selects a random host. you are paying to get your games set up and to get connected to use someone else's bandwidth. in many cases you are lagging but the only reason you don't notice is because when you are cursor is red it also sends the message to the host that you are targeting the person.

and its not even about what live does, i would not even question it if i had to buy it for XBOX because it has become the standard for XBOX online play. but now they want to bring the systems together, OK fine. but don't bully us into playing after so many years of not paying and especially when we have free programs that can do everything LIVE can do. MS already has no good reason for making the game vista only. a 3 year old game need vista to run? even consoles are backward compatible and MS is making new software months after the release of there new OS thats not? MS just do what they want and its because of you people who just conform. they never feel the pain for their attempts to bully their own customers. they did it to sell crack down putting halo 3 beta on it. this should have been expected when MS got deep into gaming every other console is moving towards free online play with the exception of buying games and extras and MS whos roots stem from the PC world where online play is normally free is the one trying to infect gaming with a service that should be free anyway. you guys see its only 50$ a year so why not instead of asking why is it 50$ a year. its just unlucky that people with that attitude has power.

  • 05.22.2007 6:04 PM PDT
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why are u discussing this if ure not going to change anything

i have windows vista ultimate
and it rocks!!!

i have h2v and it also rocks
--and i'm using silver membership--

cross-platform already existed

but not with the best console in the world--THE XBOX FAMILY--

but anyway just wanted to state MY opinion



oh. and

1:IF u DON'T WANT NEW TECH STAY WITH -XP-

2:if u want CLASSIC internet gaming play HALO 1 Pc also
good but cant beat h2v

  • 05.22.2007 7:00 PM PDT
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Posted by: O_o demon o_O
why are u discussing this if ure not going to change anything

i have windows vista ultimate
and it rocks!!!

i have h2v and it also rocks
--and i'm using silver membership--

cross-platform already existed

but not with the best console in the world--THE XBOX FAMILY--

but anyway just wanted to state MY opinion



oh. and

1:IF u DON'T WANT NEW TECH STAY WITH -XP-

2:if u want CLASSIC internet gaming play HALO 1 Pc also
good but cant beat h2v

Halo 1 PC shall always kick the -blam!- outta H2V unless they added skill.

  • 05.22.2007 7:02 PM PDT
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The game is still good.. And besides, bungie may be working on it, they are busy making halo 3, and u do kno a lotta ppl r logging onto halo 2 at the same time.. that could cause interferance with the ppl connecting to halo LIVE! but awel, im getting it tommorow, hope everything is alright. :)

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You guys are arguing over a stupid Microsoft service, Nobody gives a crap what you think, Neither does Microsoft, They want to steal peoples money, So they do it on PC too, They are going all gamer style because its the only hold up they have against Apple now, It the gaming, and if they don't, gaming company will go to the next best things, Even Microsoft tryed to take console gaming and the Wii blew it out of the water, because the Nintendo is OUR FAMILY, They don't have to reship games or force you to pay for something you don't want, oh and online, voice and messaging is free through the Wii, and They're more advanced then the Xbox 360 now because released later, I've seen Xbox Live its crap, They're brining it to the PC to make more money off crap, I don't play with a console gamer, I wanna smash the console over the console gamers head, Its not a problem, Xbox's are built to handle the game boughten for it, Now, If you're worried about Auto-Aim, Then Get machine gun and go nuts, I've played Halo 2, for the Xbox and I don't like it, I'm hoping its better for the PC because like the campaign and I think the Halo PC online play was good enough, But you end up with people with different connections and lag, I'm sure its the same for Xbox and "Live".

The fact is the more complain about it the more arrogant fools want it, Just, NO ONE get the Gold membership and then Microsoft will see they failed and make it a 1 membership title with gold features for free, Because they don't need any money, Battle.net has been around since 94 and they haven't asked for any fee from anyone only that you bought the game, So stop fooling yourself and telling yourself you should have to pay for extra features, -blam!- the money hungry bastards.

  • 05.23.2007 12:54 AM PDT

Don't follow in my footsteps; I walk into walls
my 360s blog

there here to stay deal with it

  • 05.23.2007 3:17 AM PDT
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Like hell I'm going to let Microsoft monopolize PC gaming, They can suck my -blam!- dick before they'll get my money.

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Its not enough that anyone in order to play "GFW: Live" have to have Vista a $200+ OS/Flavors then you gotta pay $60 for a brand new game, then they expect people to pay money for high features that already come in most games? Thats called poor marketing on Microsofts part, Because I never paid for Vista OUCH. And I won't get anything but Silver and if they play it stupid the hackers will do more then client side.

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And don't make the assumption because I didn't buy Vista my PC won't handle Vista anyways, It will, Its way over recommended, Maybe need a better graphics card soon, But thats about it, Halo 2 is nothing.

Edit ---

I'm an idiot, I thought Gold was $49 a month, not $49 a year, Just ignore what I said.

[Edited on 05.23.2007 6:55 AM PDT]

  • 05.23.2007 6:48 AM PDT
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Posted by: WartHogRacerman3
No, Vista is doomed. H2 should be on XP.


LMFAO. Wow...there are STILL people complaining about H2 going onto Vista?

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Posted by: O_o demon o_O
why are u discussing this if ure not going to change anything

i have windows vista ultimate
and it rocks!!!

i have h2v and it also rocks
--and i'm using silver membership--

cross-platform already existed

but not with the best console in the world--THE XBOX FAMILY--

but anyway just wanted to state MY opinion



oh. and

1:IF u DON'T WANT NEW TECH STAY WITH -XP-

2:if u want CLASSIC internet gaming play HALO 1 Pc also
good but cant beat h2v


Lol, don't make us laugh. h2v is a -blam!- ass port. H1PC kicks h2v's ass by so much, it's actually impressive.

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Posted by: lpjuunin
Posted by: O_o demon o_O
why are u discussing this if ure not going to change anything

i have windows vista ultimate
and it rocks!!!

i have h2v and it also rocks
--and i'm using silver membership--

cross-platform already existed

but not with the best console in the world--THE XBOX FAMILY--

but anyway just wanted to state MY opinion



oh. and

1:IF u DON'T WANT NEW TECH STAY WITH -XP-

2:if u want CLASSIC internet gaming play HALO 1 Pc also
good but cant beat h2v


Lol, don't make us laugh. h2v is a -blam!- ass port. H1PC kicks h2v's ass by so much, it's actually impressive.


Wow, you're an idiot.

Does H2V have missing shaders? No.

Does H2V have every animation capped at 30 FPS? No.

Does H2V have a crap netcode? No.

Does H2V need an ATI card to render most effects? No.


Just because H2V has a few button glitches doesn't mean its a -blam!- port.

H2V> H1PC

  • 05.23.2007 8:43 AM PDT
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Posted by: Kawasexi
Does H2V have missing shaders? No.

Does H2V have every animation capped at 30 FPS? No.

Does H2V have a crap netcode? No.

Does H2V need an ATI card to render most effects? No.


Just because H2V has a few button glitches doesn't mean its a -blam!- port.

H2V> H1PC


Does H1PC have missing shaders? No. Multipurpose bitmaps.

Does H1PC have every animation capped at 30 FPS? No.

Does H1PC have a crap netcode? Yes.

Does H1PC need an ATI card to render most effects? No.

Then there's everything HPC has that H2PC doesn't.

  • 05.23.2007 9:10 AM PDT
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Posted by: Kawasexi
Does H2V have missing shaders? No.

Does H2V have every animation capped at 30 FPS? No.

Does H2V have a crap netcode? No.

Does H2V need an ATI card to render most effects? No.


Just because H2V has a few button glitches doesn't mean its a -blam!- port.

H2V> H1PC


Does H1PC have missing shaders? No. Multipurpose bitmaps.

Does H1PC have every animation capped at 30 FPS? No.

Does H1PC have a crap netcode? Yes.

Does H1PC need an ATI card to render most effects? No.

Then there's everything HPC has that H2PC doesn't.


yes it does. for example:

AR shader. Flagpole shader. some very Low-resolution textures. ect

A lot on animations are capped at 30 FPS

You cant have active camo with an nvidia.

  • 05.23.2007 10:41 AM PDT
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Halo 1 pc was a very crap port, are you kidding me? I think the Halo 2 port is a lot better.

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Posted by: Mikanan
Posted by: Btcc22
Posted by: Kawasexi
Does H2V have missing shaders? No.

Does H2V have every animation capped at 30 FPS? No.

Does H2V have a crap netcode? No.

Does H2V need an ATI card to render most effects? No.


Just because H2V has a few button glitches doesn't mean its a -blam!- port.

H2V> H1PC


Does H1PC have missing shaders? No. Multipurpose bitmaps.

Does H1PC have every animation capped at 30 FPS? No.

Does H1PC have a crap netcode? Yes.

Does H1PC need an ATI card to render most effects? No.

Then there's everything HPC has that H2PC doesn't.


yes it does. for example:

AR shader. Flagpole shader. some very Low-resolution textures. ect

A lot on animations are capped at 30 FPS

You cant have active camo with an nvidia.


Shader? Multipurpose bitmaps I said.

Also, no they're not.

Finally, yes you can.

  • 05.23.2007 10:57 AM PDT

Slaying noobs since 2007.

Oh, this thread is still alive?!?

  • 05.23.2007 11:02 AM PDT
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Wow people are actually believing that Halo 1 PC was a better port than H2V?

Halo 1 PC had optimization problems when it released as well, people with the latest hardware couln't run it max at the time it was released. Halo 2 Vista i can easily get somewhere over 80+ FPS with 8AF & AA8 and everything at max quality with 1600 x 1200, and my GFX card is an Nvidia 8800 GTX.

Also, lets not forget the missing shaders and FPS anim cap, as well as the -blam!- netcode.

Face it, H2V > H1PC port.

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H2PC > H1PC port only if you have no idea what you're talking about.

  • 05.23.2007 11:11 AM PDT

Slaying noobs since 2007.

"1ike i no wat im talkn ab0ut, cuz im supper smart! lolz" Remind you of someone Btcc22?

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It actually doesn't! :D

I'm sure if you gave me a hint though... ;)

  • 05.23.2007 11:15 AM PDT
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Quote waterfalls/pyramids are the Devil.

  • 05.23.2007 11:18 AM PDT

Slaying noobs since 2007.

I'm not gonna name any names but *cough*cough**NAME**cough*cough*

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Posted by: lpjuunin
Posted by: O_o demon o_O
why are u discussing this if ure not going to change anything

i have windows vista ultimate
and it rocks!!!

i have h2v and it also rocks
--and i'm using silver membership--

cross-platform already existed

but not with the best console in the world--THE XBOX FAMILY--

but anyway just wanted to state MY opinion



oh. and

1:IF u DON'T WANT NEW TECH STAY WITH -XP-

2:if u want CLASSIC internet gaming play HALO 1 Pc also
good but cant beat h2v


Lol, don't make us laugh. h2v is a -blam!- ass port. H1PC kicks h2v's ass by so much, it's actually impressive.




LMAO u think that "Halo pc" can beat "h2v".....remember patches will exist
i have haloPC and h2v and they are both awesome each one has its own -pros- and -cons-

--it's a very cool game anyway--

[Edited on 05.23.2007 3:11 PM PDT]

  • 05.23.2007 3:08 PM PDT