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I think stuff that is worse you can't say on TV should be kept out. Halo 1 didn't have anything that can't be said on TV and, while I'd prefer there was no swearing, it was fine. And the M rating isn't like an R rated movie, it can't have as much language as an R movie can. I just hope that the E3 03 trailer has the absolute WORST swearing that's in Halo 2.

Because, Bungie, swearing doesn't make a game, gameplay does.

SF

  • 05.29.2004 4:32 PM PDT
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Ive heard grunts call me a little b i t c h or f u c k e r when theyre running away, but they say it under their breath so it isnt obvious. You wont believe how many times my parents have walked into the living room and said: "What did that little orange thing just call you?"

  • 05.29.2004 4:46 PM PDT

Ignoring those who obviously play Halo with their profanity filters set to illusory overdrive, let's talk about maturity.

Posted by: Spiderfreak
...the M rating isn't like an R rated movie, it can't have as much language as an R movie can. Because, Bungie, swearing doesn't make a game, gameplay does.
SF


[color=green]Let's see... you're supposed to be 17 to see an "R" rated movie. You're supposed to be 17 to purchase and/or play an "M" rated video game. So how are they not alike?[/color]

[color=yellow]And, on the list of all the game companies in the world that you DO NOT need to say "swearing doesn't make a game, gameplay does," Bungie is at the top.[/color]

You learn something new every day.

[Edited on 5/29/2004 5:00:03 PM]

  • 05.29.2004 4:57 PM PDT
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Like everyone has said, Dont let your damn brothers play the game then! Cussing is a part of war and without it, it might not be war!

  • 05.29.2004 5:07 PM PDT
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Halo 2 isn't pink little bunnies frolicking in the tulips, IT'S WAR. I hope bungie puts more swears in halo 2, it makes it more realistic. You wouldn't hear a soldier yell "Oh Fudge!" or "DANG!!!" It doesn't really matter. But i would like to see MORE vulgar language.

  • 05.29.2004 5:18 PM PDT
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Posted by: Mactad
Halo 2 isn't pink little bunnies frolicking in the tulips, IT'S WAR. I hope bungie puts more swears in halo 2, it makes it more realistic. You wouldn't hear a soldier yell "Oh Fudge!" or "DANG!!!" It doesn't really matter. But i would like to see MORE vulgar language.


Amen to that

  • 05.29.2004 5:21 PM PDT

Posted by: Mactad
Halo 2 isn't pink little bunnies frolicking in the tulips...


What!? No [color=pink]pink[/color] bunnies!? Cancel my reservation!

  • 05.29.2004 5:52 PM PDT
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I would also like to see more profane language. I mean, this game is about war, and who fights wars? Soldiers...and do soldiers swear a lot in tough situations? Yes.

I'd also like to see the Master Cheif swear. I mean, he is in the Navy and is considered a SAILOR you know! No one is supposed to swear more than sailors.

And like everyone has said, the game is rated M, so if your parents let your brothers play it, they should expect the same language as R rated movies, and thus even F*** is in play. And frankly, most teens and even children either use or have heard the F*** word. It doesn't bother me since I pretty much cussed like a sailor since I was around 12. The only thing is that kids need to understand that there's a time and a place for it. You don't go to school and start saying F*** this and F*** that and you definately don't use much (if any) profanity around adults.

  • 05.29.2004 6:21 PM PDT
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Wow, I don't need to say anything at all.

I will say this....
Real people use real cuss words. I have heard every single word on PRIME TIME. Cher said the Fu ck word not too long ago. Bono used the Fu ck word as an adjective so it is "ok", I have heard -blam!-, Sh it, damn, hell, etc. If you took any of these out it would be an awfull game.

Here is a possible lines without cuss words:

"Look, its those silly Covies!"
"Oh, darn, that plasma burns!"
"Oh, shoot, I'm dying!"
"You son of a gun!"
"You piece of slime!"

I think you get the point. I am 16, but I think I can handle some friggin language, or as Patrick would say,"Sentence enhancers"


EDIT: BTW, I have a 7 year old brother who plays the game. My mom has restricted him to only the Multiplayer Split Screen stuff. If you are so worried, then have your parents do that, and just turn the volume down when your sibs are present. Problem solved.

[Edited on 5/30/2004 9:37:41 PM]

  • 05.30.2004 9:32 PM PDT
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Well what do your little brothers say when they hear a marine say "We are FUBAR"?

Anyway, I agree with you. There's no need for swearing, especially in games. Of course most of us are "big kids" and can handle the language public schools are built to desensitize us to these things, but that doesn't make it necessary. Yeah, people use words like d' and f' an anything else you want to add in there, but that doesn't mean it HAS to be there. You don't even have to use the alternates for cursewords (darn, frick, shoot etc.) because sentences involving them can be easily avoided entirely.
Real people use cursewords in real life, but real people in real life are mindblowingly stupid and 9 times out of 10 not worth the food they eat. Videogames are not meant to be like reality, but rather a place beyond reality were you don't deal with what's in the real world.

[Edited on 5/30/2004 9:38:36 PM]

  • 05.30.2004 9:33 PM PDT
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Posted by: stangfb6117
Here is a possible lines without cuss words:

"Look, its those silly Covies!"
"Oh, darn, that plasma burns!"
"Oh, shoot, I'm dying!"
"You son of a gun!"
"You piece of slime!"

I think you get the point. I am 16, but I think I can handle some friggin language, or as Patrick would say,"Sentence enhancers"


Thats some funny stuff. Silly covies. I'd expect after a marine said that. He'd whip down his pants and go -blam!- with a grunt.

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Posted by: Mactad
Thats some funny stuff. Silly covies. I'd expect after a marine said that. He'd whip down his pants and go -blam!- with a grunt.


LMAO!

To the other guy-

Oh, so this world is far different than ours? It seems like the world in 2552 is a living hell, so I would think the language, in full scale all out combat, would be much worse.

  • 05.30.2004 9:52 PM PDT
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Posted by: Scipio
Well what do your little brothers say when they hear a marine say "We are FUBAR"?

Anyway, I agree with you. There's no need for swearing, especially in games. Of course most of us are "big kids" and can handle the language public schools are built to desensitize us to these things, but that doesn't make it necessary. Yeah, people use words like d' and f' an anything else you want to add in there, but that doesn't mean it HAS to be there. You don't even have to use the alternates for cursewords (darn, frick, shoot etc.) because sentences involving them can be easily avoided entirely.
Real people use cursewords in real life, but real people in real life are mindblowingly stupid and 9 times out of 10 not worth the food they eat. Videogames are not meant to be like reality, but rather a place beyond reality were you don't deal with what's in the real world.


I totally agree. Swearing doesn't have to be in the game. And about what Frogwart said, it's not age, but the stuff game makers can put in a game. M-rated games can't have as much swearing as an R-rated movies can. And I didn't mean the gameplay in Halo was bad, it's great, I just want Bungie to focus on it, not swearing.

SF

P.S. And Grunts don't swear.

  • 06.01.2004 11:22 AM PDT
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your a bunch of sniveling fools swearing is apart of life whether you like it or not worry bout your kids or wee brother is your problem soldiers swear especially when there backs are against the wall you would your problem is you probibly see war on the tv and in games
youv never seen it first hand i know ppl who have and it ant pleasent when you think your going you get blasted to hell you dont think "oh heck i think i just fill my Y fronts whatever should i do ohh my word" you think SH IT and every other word you can think of
YES its a game but you want to know one of the reasons its so popular is its realism its got guns we can relate to ok the covies dont but we do we dont have super advenced ships with sheilds and phaser guns apart from the slipspace drive and the AIs but mostly everything we can relate too as well as the foul baddie bad words for god sake ppl GROW THE HELL(or as you would say heck) UP !

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  • 06.01.2004 3:10 PM PDT
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Dude dont sweet it there wont be any use of the f-word because it says it is rated M for Blood and Violence not Strong language and every thing that people are saying about ur brother should not play it dont listen to them because halo 1 and halo 2 should be played by all ages not just 17+ so i hopr ur brother likes the game!

  • 06.01.2004 3:19 PM PDT
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Don't know if this has been stated. I hate reading several posts so I won't repeat what has already been said.

It should go like this...if you are playing the easy campaign there should not be any cursing. The harder the campaign the more creative the language. Or maybe have the option to turn off the dirty language.

  • 06.01.2004 3:24 PM PDT
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So um tell us zeus u must be turned on by bad words and ur the one who needs to grow up acting cool because u stood of for bad words!!! Yea i admit that many people do cuss and it is a part of life but u dont always need to hear it! But ur poat doesnt make u look cool! Also i am glad halo did not have much cussing because we play it at my church in the youth!

  • 06.01.2004 3:27 PM PDT
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give me a break i dont get turned on by bad words but if you read what i said about realisem
youd understand puting in words like "fudge you" "and oh heck" sounds rediculous i admit
having swearing all the time wouldent be right but at the right time and place it suits the situation and thats my point and as for looking cool i dont give a damn what you think about
me Mr churchy church man go back to your praying or somthing

  • 06.02.2004 1:46 AM PDT
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I'm all for the cussing, like many have said before me, if the human race is in its lowest number and on the brink of extinction with your back agaist the wall fighting your ass of 24/7 witnessing you friends and allies fall dead beside you, there is a larget possibliity of swearing. I would even use words if i was in war, i'd run around flipping the bird to the covies and swearing my arse off. instead of "sir yes sir" i'd say "-blam!- fu*k -blam!-". but seriously there is one thing no one has commented on....some people have said "bungie focuz on the game not the swearing" what do you think bungie employees do, sit there in their chairs thinking of the swear words they could use in a piece of dialog?! "well i dunno, i think the f word far surpasses the s word in this piece of dialog. because they are in battle and all, think of the context.....hmmm maybe you're right, let sleep on it for a week and maybe then it will all make sense to us." NO, bungie is not sitting around discussing cussing, maybe a BIT to decide what is the appropriate usage but not like my example.

  • 06.02.2004 2:17 AM PDT
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Im sorry but i really think people who class whats on Halo as vulgar words are people who havent lived.
It's 2004 its all over TV, Internet etc and besides there just words.
There only gonna mean something if you make a issue out of it.
If i said from tomorrow Halo is now classed as the worse vulgar word to use,
i know for a fact some of you people who class some words as vulgar, would just laugh and say Halo.
If your really Anti against it then mute your TV.
I wonder what its gonna be like on Xbox-Live, alot of muting thats for sure.

  • 06.02.2004 2:35 AM PDT
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who gives a -blam!-, ok im gonna make a real long story short.....

my 10 yr old lil sis, is a hardcore halo plaer (i thought her everything :-D)

and she was playing, and my mom was watching her, and the grunt was like (lil -blam!-) or somthing to that effect...my mom was like "You know your not old enough to sware right, cause if you sware those grunts are gonna rip you apart in your sleep" (exact words)

my sister still hasnt sworn yet and shes now 12

  • 06.02.2004 3:26 AM PDT
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Posted by: Empty Shadows
Dude!, Its rated Mature, your little bro shouldnt be playing it anyway!
They can say F U C K all they want, theyre marines, and if youre life is on the line, you should at least be able to swear your a s s off!
Your parents are irresponsible, the warning is there for a reason, have them read it! Show them the game, they should be informed, that this game has really realistic blood, gore, death, cursing, and stuff your little kid shouldnt see, they dont understand. We should fire everyone at ESRB, cause i dont even know if thats what theyre called. They should make sure every body knows, when you buy that game for your kid they should have a pamphlet for each game, that every clerk reads to you before you buy it, saying this game is bad, it wont teach your kid good things, he might be frightened by this game, he might learn new words, that you dont want him to hear, he might not value a human life too much, after this game.

This contains serious things, Im not saying they shouldnt be there, but it takes these things and makes them into a Game. Thats all they will think serious things such as killing are nothing more than a game. That should not happen.




Who here agrees?
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Im gonna make a big deal about this, and send an e-mail to that one place.


I dissaggree. Everyone should have a chance to play a game, and it would ruin it for MANY MANY people if the f word was put in. Then children all around the world would have to avoikd playing in front of their parents.

  • 06.02.2004 9:24 AM PDT
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By the way, games are made for fun, and are more intentionally made for kids and teenagers. They are not made to have bad language and extreme violence in them. Kids wont kill people when they play games. We're not idiots.

  • 06.02.2004 9:25 AM PDT
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Posted by: LazyAssWhore
i have been playing violent games and watching violent movies and listening to violent music for years and i have never thought about killing anyone and im not desensitised to violence.

Exactly. If anything it's made me more senstitive

  • 06.02.2004 9:30 AM PDT
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good point empty shadows. your brother shouldn't play the game if they cant hear cuss words.besides f u c k and s h i t arn't bad words anyway

[Edited on 6/2/2004 9:41:50 AM]

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