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Subject: So I was checking out Sapien and...

Let there be CHAOS!

Poll: Adding the Fuel Rod Gun to Halo 2 Vista Multiplayer  [closed]
Good:  80%
(24 Votes)
Bad:  20%
(6 Votes)
Total Votes: 30

...I opened the example.scenario that came with it, and was just poking around in it and noticed a fuel rod gun on the map. So apparently they can now be used in multiplayer :D That's awesome imho, seeing as it's much more balanced than the rocket launcher.

Rocket Launcer:
1. Small clip
2. Delay between shots (not long though)
3. Lots of splash damage
4. One direct hit = kill
5. Tracks vehicles
6. Fast projectile

Fuel Rod Gun:
1. Larger clip
2. Smaller delay between shots
3. Not too much splash damage
4. One direct hit != kill
5. Doesn't track vehicles
6. Slow projectile

So do you guys also think it's good that it's finally in multiplayer?

[Edited on 05.22.2007 2:25 PM PDT]

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Probably. But expect to see lots of kiddies running around with it attempting to hit a one-man infantry in close range. That's what made everyone in H1PC hate it so much. Including me. Because it's cheap.

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It's been in multiplayer for HPC. I know it will be added into most maps, but I won't like it if it's as powerful as the original.

  • 05.22.2007 2:28 PM PDT
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I proposed the return of the fuel rod gun quite a while ago, but no--Bungie said they wouldn't add in new weapons or vehicles, which is absurd--at least Gearbox was smart enough to give PC gamers exclusive content (screw Uplift and District, we still don't get Tombstone and Desolation).

[Edited on 05.22.2007 2:35 PM PDT]

  • 05.22.2007 2:34 PM PDT

Let there be CHAOS!

Interesting, there is also a silenced SMG on this map. I think it's a little more accurate than the normal SMG, but it has some crazy recoil. Cool, eh?

Well yes, but there's something I don't understand. Why did Hired Gun make an example of a map with weapons that can't be accessed by the game variant creator? Sure there's an FRG in this map, but I can't make a game variant that spawns me with one, or puts FRGs on the map (besides default). Same with the silenced SMG. Could they not have added these weapon tags to the rest of the existing maps and also to the Main Menu? I make tons of custom game variants, so it's really lame not being able to make any that include these two weapons.

I could understand if some random person made a map and threw these weapons on it somehow, but Hired Gun's example map that ships with the game includes two weapons that cannot appear on any other maps and cannot be included in custom game variants. This makes no sense to me.

  • 05.22.2007 3:03 PM PDT

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You can add the SSMG and the FRG on any map you want. The item collection is no different than any of the other ones. Also, SMG ha s werid red thing on it, that needs to be removed.

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Posted by: Master Kim
(screw Uplift and District, we still don't get Tombstone and Desolation).


Uplift and District> Tombstone and Desolation in my opinion, i think our new maps are varied better(District a vehicle map, Uplift a midrange-closerange map).

And yes, i think the FRG in MP is awesome, it's a lot more balanced.

[Edited on 05.22.2007 3:15 PM PDT]

  • 05.22.2007 3:12 PM PDT

Let there be CHAOS!

Posted by: Masterz1337
You can add the SSMG and the FRG on any map you want. The item collection is no different than any of the other ones. Also, SMG ha s werid red thing on it, that needs to be removed.


I'm just talking about making game variants. For example, I can't make a game variant called "Ninja Duals" where you are cloaked and you spawn with a silenced SMG. It's not in the main menu so that wouldn't be possible.

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..A silenced SMG. This is Halo, not SOCOM. This is not Ghost Recon or Splinter Cell. This is a run-and-gun shooter.

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Posted by: Master Kim
..A silenced SMG. This is Halo, not SOCOM. This is not Ghost Recon or Splinter Cell. This is a run-and-gun shooter.


QFT.

  • 05.22.2007 3:21 PM PDT

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Posted by: Master Kim
..A silenced SMG. This is Halo, not SOCOM. This is not Ghost Recon or Splinter Cell. This is a run-and-gun shooter.


It was a weapon that was originally going to be in the game, so don't give me that generic "This is Halo, not Splinter Cell" crap lol.

And like I said, the best thing about that weapon is the fact that it is more accurate, not that it's silenced.

[Edited on 05.22.2007 3:22 PM PDT]

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Posted by: Chaosenemy
Posted by: Master Kim
..A silenced SMG. This is Halo, not SOCOM. This is not Ghost Recon or Splinter Cell. This is a run-and-gun shooter.


It was a weapon that was originally going to be in the game,
But it didn't, and that's my point. It never ended up in the game for a reason. I will give you all the "This is Halo, not Splinter Cell" crap I want, there's a reason why they didn't put it in the final version.

Posted by: Chaosenemy
And like I said, the best thing about that weapon is the fact that it is more accurate, not that it's silenced.
More accurate? That's nice, but didn't you just say that it had huge recoil?

[Edited on 05.22.2007 3:26 PM PDT]

  • 05.22.2007 3:24 PM PDT

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Posted by: Master Kim
Posted by: Chaosenemy
Posted by: Master Kim
..A silenced SMG. This is Halo, not SOCOM. This is not Ghost Recon or Splinter Cell. This is a run-and-gun shooter.


It was a weapon that was originally going to be in the game,
But it didn't, and that's my point. It never ended up in the game for a reason. I will give you all the "This is Halo, not Splinter Cell" crap I want, there's a reason why they didn't put it in the final version.

Posted by: Chaosenemy
And like I said, the best thing about that weapon is the fact that it is more accurate, not that it's silenced.
More accurate? That's nice, but didn't you just say that it had huge recoil?


More recoil as in the SMG crosshair goes up faster when you fire it than the normal SMG's.

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Posted by: Chaosenemy
More recoil as in the SMG crosshair goes up faster when you fire it than the normal SMG's.
But wouldn't the recoil negate the silenced SMG's supposed accuracy?

By the way, can you give us some screenshots? :D

[Edited on 05.22.2007 3:33 PM PDT]

  • 05.22.2007 3:32 PM PDT

Let there be CHAOS!

Posted by: Master Kim
Posted by: Chaosenemy
More recoil as in the SMG crosshair goes up faster when you fire it than the normal SMG's.
But wouldn't the recoil negate the silenced SMG's supposed accuracy?

By the way, can you give us some screenshots? :D


But that's the thing, the accuracy is better but only if you can actually keep the crosshair on your enemy...

And really, the recoil isn't THAT huge, but it is a little quicker than the SMG, especially if you dual wield them.

Screenshot 1

Screenshot 2

Btw, I burst fired at the wall with both weapons 5 times.

Also, if you hold down the trigger, the SSMG is just as inaccurate as the SMG. So burst firing is actually very useful. I feel like the SSMG is what the SMG should have been in Halo 2.

Oh yeah, and here's a pic of the FRG: Click

[Edited on 05.22.2007 3:58 PM PDT]

  • 05.22.2007 3:36 PM PDT

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Posted by: Masterz1337
You can add the SSMG and the FRG on any map you want. The item collection is no different than any of the other ones. Also, SMG ha s werid red thing on it, that needs to be removed.


I'm just talking about making game variants. For example, I can't make a game variant called "Ninja Duals" where you are cloaked and you spawn with a silenced SMG. It's not in the main menu so that wouldn't be possible.

You should be able to, or at least on H2 xbox it was possible.

The solution isn't to try and add a menu option, but replace the menu equipment reference to the smg to the silenced smg - then whenever the gametype has it set for you to spawn with the smg, you get an ssmg. Or you could just make the ssmg be the map default weapon. Then if the gametype has map default weapon settings, you'll get the ssmg, but you still have the option to change it.

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Posted by: Chaosenemy
Oh yeah, and here's a pic of the FRG: Click
Yeah, can we have a picture of it where it doesn't look like something I'd find floating in my toilet?

  • 05.22.2007 5:09 PM PDT

Let there be CHAOS!

Posted by: Master Kim
Posted by: Chaosenemy
Oh yeah, and here's a pic of the FRG: Click
Yeah, can we have a picture of it where it doesn't look like something I'd find floating in my toilet?


Rofl, well I was kinda just trying to show that it was indeed on the map, but here ya go.

FRG 1

FRG 2

[Edited on 05.22.2007 7:32 PM PDT]

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Hmm, these weapons give a interesting question.

Were Hired Gun going to release this weapons for the Halo 2 Vista but maybe someone told them not to?

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Posted by: Chaosenemy
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Oh yeah, and here's a pic of the FRG: Click
Yeah, can we have a picture of it where it doesn't look like something I'd find floating in my toilet?


Rofl, well I was kinda just trying to show that it was indeed on the map, but here ya go.

FRG 1

FRG 2
Why isn't the hud in those pictures closer to the side of the screen? Like you know, in real h2v screenshots.

  • 05.22.2007 8:10 PM PDT

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Posted by: Master Kim
Posted by: Chaosenemy
Oh yeah, and here's a pic of the FRG: Click
Yeah, can we have a picture of it where it doesn't look like something I'd find floating in my toilet?


Rofl, well I was kinda just trying to show that it was indeed on the map, but here ya go.

FRG 1

FRG 2
Why isn't the hud in those pictures closer to the side of the screen? Like you know, in real h2v screenshots.


Because they're fake.

/sarcasm

Video

[Edited on 05.23.2007 11:22 AM PDT]

  • 05.22.2007 8:54 PM PDT