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When I made the "Official Halo2PC suggestion thread" I heard that the Hired gun guys were taking a look at it, so I will organize this thread for bugs/changes that we would like to see fixed/implemented into a future patch.

Disclaimer: There is no guarentee they will ever look at this thread. There is nothing "official" other then me wanting to streamline these kinds of posts on this board and organize them for easier viewing.

Here is how this is going to work. You can submit bugs and/or changes in this thread and I will edit this first post and list them. I will only list it if there are two or more posts about that issue and I will put it in bold if more then six posts have been made about the issue. I will test bugs to verify they affect everyone not just you. Whining and/or flaming will get your post ignored. Use good grammer and spelling and describe the issue thoroughly.

Bug/Changes List
1.Button Combo glitches - by hitting certain well-documented button combinations the player is able perform double shots and double melees and give himself an advantage over another player who is not exploiting these combonations.
2. Delaying the game in the lobby - A player can delay the game indefiantly by pushing X to delay the game before it starts. There is nothing the other players can do to prevent it. Limit the number of times you can delay before you get kicked and display who is doing the delaying. If I was the host on my own machine I would not be able to identify and kick the person abusing this feature.
3. Resolutions - Hey where did 1440x 990 and other wide screen resolutions go? You had them in early demos(Leipzig).
4. Crouching - There is a bug that will not allow you to crouch while running you have to fullt stop then crouch then you can creep forward. It did not do this in the X-box version, this is something new.
5. Some players have not gotten certain achievements when they would have qualified. Most particularily the Demon acheivement completing a level without dying.
6. Video options - More video options specular, decals, etc, so it can be adjusted to everybodies taste.
7. Stat-tracking on Bungie.net like you have on the X-box
8. Remote console for dedicated servers. So that admins playing on the server can kick/ban ,change maps and passwords etc. How did you guys miss this?
9. Covenant Carbine - the carbine seems to have a higher rate of fire then the X-box version. This may cause weapon balancing issues.
10. When you start the game and go to browse the server list there are none available. If you do something else first then go the server list they are listed.
11. Matchmaking - Several times matchmaking has matched me up with NO ONE. If I leave a game and hit matchmaking it should NOT send me back into the game I just quit.
12. Cutscenes = The cutscenes on almost everyones computer are skipping if not crashing the game. This needs to figured out and solved.
13. Key mapping - Many people have said that the "E" key can not be remapped because it says it is being used. I know personally the End key cannot be mapped to anything.


[Edited on 06.12.2007 6:43 PM PDT]

  • 05.22.2007 2:39 PM PDT
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Extra Settings-I would like the ability to change particle and decal effects to improve my performance.

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  • 05.22.2007 2:41 PM PDT
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resolution support: add support for resolutions such as 1440x900 and other resolutions left out

  • 05.22.2007 2:46 PM PDT
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Superbounces-There's no real straight-forward way to explain this, so let me elaborate: Superbounces are glitches in the game which allow you to reach locations of extremely high elevation (i.e., the towers in Ascension). This gives a person an insanely unfair advantage if he has a sniper rifle, as he will have a huge vantage point and see almost all of the map--it is also much easier to snipe people when you're on a higher position. If you're playing against inexperienced players, and if you land your headshots consistently, it will take them forever before they can see you and counter-attack, assuming they can get to a sniper rifle before you get to them first.

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  • 05.22.2007 2:49 PM PDT
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Voice chat - Why isn't everyone treated with the equal share of something that is absolutely free with other services like Steam?

Auto aim/hit boxes - This one is a stretch, but please remove all auto aim and reduce the hit boxes. Stick with the slight magnetic bullet shots from Halo 1 PC. Hopefully this will discourage console controller users to actually play with what the PC port should've intended to play with--a keyboard and a mouse. I don't think it's quite fair that my opponent will have an unfair handicap because he's using a controller, and I can only imagine if one would alter this controller set to work for the keyboard and mouse.

Make HEK2, not HK2 - How about unlocking all of the features we once had in HEK1 so this game is actually worth buying instead of leaving it to the modding community to do it for us?

By the way everyone, you do realize that we are requesting this from Bungie, as it is Bungie who decides what goes and what doesn't for the PC port.

  • 05.22.2007 3:14 PM PDT

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The video settings surprised me too. wasn't sure what to do there so I turned AA off and kept detail high. Does the manual explain what the setting do? I didn't check.

The lack of resolution is really disturbing because they were playing the game in Leipzig at 1440x990. Where did it go?

Has anyone tested whether the superbouncing works? I know the button glitching has but has the bouncing also been confirmed?

Public and private voice chat has been included in the silver membership so I'm not sure what you mean.

While I would like to see no auto-aim myself, IF and only IF the autoaim truly levels the field between the controller and KB/M then I wouldn't care. However that is a fine line to skate on and I would like to hear from players adept in both KB/M and controller to see if they detect a noticable difference.

  • 05.23.2007 7:47 AM PDT
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The lack of resolutions and graphical change options are just retarded. One single resolution controls everything, from low, to med, to high. Teh PHAIL.

  • 05.23.2007 8:24 AM PDT
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No 1440x900 resolution? That just reaffirms my reasons to not buy Halo 2V. My monitor's native resolution is 1440x900.

  • 05.23.2007 8:37 AM PDT
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Give us back our normal Mouse/Keyboard setup. Not this poor sluggish excuse for one.

Make this game for the PC user.......not for the XBOX user.

  • 05.23.2007 8:46 AM PDT
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Superbounces are impossible to fix. They are a glitch in the physics system which cannot be fixed, unless they invest in another engine. If they fix one here, another one pops up somewhere else.

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1) Better Mouse support (Higher sensitivity options on Look and Vehicles as well).
2) Fix the crouch key not working while moving.
3) Enable ragdoll effects when more than 8 people are in an online match.

  • 05.23.2007 9:43 AM PDT
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Posted by: Kawasexi
Superbounces are impossible to fix. They are a glitch in the physics system which cannot be fixed, unless they invest in another engine. If they fix one here, another one pops up somewhere else.

Is that what you've been spoon-fed to believe?

  • 05.23.2007 10:38 AM PDT
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Posted by: Recon Number 54
It is a bug that occurs because of how the physics engine interacts with any map, revising the maps in order to address current super-bounces (but create a whole new set of super-bounce locations) would not really be a solution at all.


  • 05.23.2007 10:48 AM PDT

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Posted by: Kawasexi
Superbounces are impossible to fix. They are a glitch in the physics system which cannot be fixed, unless they invest in another engine. If they fix one here, another one pops up somewhere else.

Wow, talk about ignorance.

  • 05.23.2007 11:10 AM PDT

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Posted by: Kawasexi
Superbounces are impossible to fix. They are a glitch in the physics system which cannot be fixed, unless they invest in another engine. If they fix one here, another one pops up somewhere else.

Wow, talk about ignorance.


In the post above yours he clarified his point and sited a reference. Now its your turn.

  • 05.23.2007 11:20 AM PDT
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Well it is true they could fix super bounces if they wanted to.

  • 05.23.2007 11:26 AM PDT

I don't have H2V yet, but I've seen a few things that I would like fixed.

#1 The sound settings, I would like to trun off the Music in the Game if I wanted to, the music's nice, but some times I like to listen to my own music which has a fast beat so I'm faster at thinking then what some of the music that I have to listen to in the SP levels.
#2 for Keyboars, Walking and Runing to be set so I can hold the "Shift" key to run or walk, and to swich it is a different key, all FPS games that I've played with the Walk and run thing has that kind of thing in it.
#3 I would like it if I can run a dede server on my computer, go in, and play on that server all on one computer.
#4 hosting Games, I would like it if I can host games and Silver members can play.
#5 a Better H2EK, the one that came with H2V is a stick in the mud, or at lest that's what I've heard about it.
#6 (here is one that every one wants) I want H2V to have a Set released date that isn't going to be pushed back, it's getting old.

  • 05.23.2007 11:30 AM PDT

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<point> Programming is logic, put into a language that computers can understand. Logic can't counter-dict itself, therefore it is safe to assume that the one doing the programming either didn't think all the way through the logic, or didn't cross-communicate correctly. Imagine using a program to create programs as the above example. Say someone made a mistake in the program that you were using to create other programs. It's goes without saying that all programs made with the one program will be seriously hindered by that mistake. The same goes for this. Just becuase you make a mistake that is hard to fix, does not mean that it is immpossible to fix, just hard. Any program made will not be with out glitches, obvouisly, because we are not pure logic, but to say that we are not capable of fixing a problem that we created is insane. But I will admit, that I was not completly attentive to his post, because he does say, " They are a glitch in the physics system which cannot be fixed, unless they invest in another engine.", but he also says, "Superbounces are impossible to fix.", so what he should have said was it would be very difficult to do because of the flaw with their current engine. </point> reference: google; my professors; and the internet.

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Posted by: Desert Fox RWTF
<point> Programming is logic, put into a language that computers can understand. Logic can't counter-dict itself, therefore it is safe to assume that the one doing the programming either didn't think all the way through the logic, or didn't cross-communicate correctly. Imagine using a program to create programs as the above example. Say someone made a mistake in the program that you were using to create other programs. It's goes without saying that all programs made with the one program will be seriously hindered by that mistake. The same goes for this. Just becuase you make a mistake that is hard to fix, does not mean that it is immpossible to fix, just hard. Any program made will not be with out glitches, obvouisly, because we are not pure logic, but to say that we are not capable of fixing a problem that we created is insane. But I will admit, that I was not completly attentive to his post, because he does say, " They are a glitch in the physics system which cannot be fixed, unless they invest in another engine.", but he also says, "Superbounces are impossible to fix.", so what he should have said was it would be very difficult to do because of the flaw with their current engine. </point> reference: google; my professors; and the internet.
Don't forget more glitches and issues that could spring from removing these ones.

Basically, it's a lose/lose situation.

  • 05.23.2007 12:04 PM PDT
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They could just change the map design ever so slightly to eliminate the problem spots.

  • 05.23.2007 12:17 PM PDT
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Can someone tell me all the controls, like jump, reload, pick up weopon etc. Also can you change the controls if you want.

  • 05.23.2007 12:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: Stealth_1000
#3 I would like it if I can run a dede server on my computer, go in, and play on that server all on one computer.


Then it wouldnt be a dedicated server. The whole point behind dedicated servers is that it dedicates all your resources to the game to make it a smoother experience for those conencting to it.

I dont know if you know it or not but you can still run a server from your computer and play in it...it just wont be dedicated.

  • 05.23.2007 12:22 PM PDT

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OK so lets summarize this situation. The bugs could probably be fixed because they are coding mistakes or logic errors, however fixing some of these glitches might open up other glitches elsewhere in the map. The time and resources needed to correct all the problems may become unacceptable and cost ineffective. Combine that with the fact that several million users have played over a billion hours over the last two years and they have come to accept and embrace it. Not a whole lot of incentive to fix it is there. In fact if they had fixed it I wonder how many people would be complaining about the fact that they did!

[Edited on 05.23.2007 12:25 PM PDT]

  • 05.23.2007 12:25 PM PDT

Posted by: Nessy

The bungie.net community is the halo PC community that is renowned for being unbelieveably sucky.

Guys, take it from someone who has been PC gaming since before 1991. There are other games to enjoy, and other things to do. The more people that buy the game hopeing it will be fixed (button glitch macros especially) the less likely it will get fixed. Be wise with your money. Take a wait and see approach, the game isn't going anywhere. Bungie needs to own up to some of this and make some statements. If they plan on leaving the glitches in, fine, but let us know where we stand. The longer they keep their mouths shut, the worse this is going to get for them.

If you are content with a simple cheap port job with some added features for Live Anywhere, then be my guest. M$ is dumbing down PC gaming, and I'm not interested really.

Also, looking back, I have to say that Gearbox and MacSoft did a much better job than Hired Gun has done is actually creating a PC game from a console game. The fact that HaloPC had twice as many video options as Halo2V is just incredibly telling. Looks like this one was a rush job put out there to make money without too much concern.

[Edited on 05.23.2007 12:41 PM PDT]

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Posted by: Frnksnbns
If you are content with a simple cheap port job with some added features for Live Anywhere, then be my guest. M$ is dumbing down PC gaming, and I'm not interested really.
I'm with you there, but I already have an Xbox Live account so it kinda doesn't matter to me. :/

  • 05.23.2007 12:42 PM PDT