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Subject: Is Double Shotting, BxR, etc. Cheating?
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Is double shotting, bxr, etc cheating if used in matchmaking?

  • 05.26.2007 12:09 PM PDT
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nope perfectly legal if u can do it go pwn some neebs

  • 05.26.2007 12:11 PM PDT
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Yes. XBL terms of Service says so, so did Bungie. You just have less of a chance of being banned since it can't be detected, only people can report you.

Keep in mind, I find button combos mostly dishonorable and cheap, it takes no skill, I performed a BXR that I never have before...did it first try. that means no practice=no skill. For RRX, it might take skill, but any well trained RX'r it becomes impossible to stop, no counter in sight. Kinda like modding, you need skill to do it, but it isn't fair in any way.

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  • 05.26.2007 12:12 PM PDT
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Depends on where, and who you're playing.

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No it's not cheating. Really look in the cheating section of this website nothing is in there about double shoting, quad shoting, ultra shoting, bxring,bxbing. They are not because anybody can do them at any given time. Modding though costs money and is illegal. It is not part of the game. This is.

  • 05.26.2007 12:14 PM PDT
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Posted by: HaloFighter92
Yes. XBL terms of Service says so, so did Bungie. You just have less of a chance of being banned since it can't be detected, only people can report you.

Keep in mind, I find button combos mostly dishonorable and cheap, it takes no skill, I performed a BXR that I never have before...did it first try. that means no practice=no skill. For RRX, it might take skill, but any well trained RX'r it becomes impossible to stop, no counter in sight. Kinda like modding, you need skill to do it, but it isn't fair in any way.


Button combos take skill.

Dishonorable.........LOL.

  • 05.26.2007 12:14 PM PDT
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Button Combos Do Take skill double shotting took me 2 months to learn but yet bxr and rrx comes natural to some players or maybe u have a turbo controller!!!!

  • 05.26.2007 12:18 PM PDT
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Posted by: HaloFighter92
Yes. XBL terms of Service says so, so did Bungie. You just have less of a chance of being banned since it can't be detected, only people can report you.

Keep in mind, I find button combos mostly dishonorable and cheap, it takes no skill, I performed a BXR that I never have before...did it first try. that means no practice=no skill. For RRX, it might take skill, but any well trained RX'r it becomes impossible to stop, no counter in sight. Kinda like modding, you need skill to do it, but it isn't fair in any way.


Button combos take skill.

Dishonorable.........LOL.
It doesn't take practice...equals no skill, any BXR'r that comes close is garenteed the kill. No good counter to it unless you have a shotgun or Sword...and MLG doesn't allow that so....

I don't see any evidence in your post :p

  • 05.26.2007 12:20 PM PDT
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Okay Why does everyone think turbo controls do crap! They don't... Idiots BXR doesn't always work. Without host it just drains and at the perfect angle kills. I can press BXR so fast but it doesn't always kill. Crouch when they BXR if they're looking straight they'll miss.

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  • 05.26.2007 12:20 PM PDT
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Posted by: HaloFighter92
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Posted by: HaloFighter92
Yes. XBL terms of Service says so, so did Bungie. You just have less of a chance of being banned since it can't be detected, only people can report you.

Keep in mind, I find button combos mostly dishonorable and cheap, it takes no skill, I performed a BXR that I never have before...did it first try. that means no practice=no skill. For RRX, it might take skill, but any well trained RX'r it becomes impossible to stop, no counter in sight. Kinda like modding, you need skill to do it, but it isn't fair in any way.


Button combos take skill.

Dishonorable.........LOL.
It doesn't take practice...equals no skill, any BXR'r that comes close is garenteed the kill. No good counter to it unless you have a shotgun or Sword...and MLG doesn't allow that so....

I don't see any evidence in your post :p


LOL, its not hard to counter a BXR, and it doesn't always kill.

Duck, strafe, melee, shotty, sword, BBX, plsma grenade, bunny hopping.

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Posted by: glass
Okay Why does everyone think turbo controls do crap! They don't... Idiots BXR doesn't always work. Without host it just drains and at the perfect angle kills. I can press BXR so fast but it doesn't always kill. Crouch when they BXR if they're looking straight they'll miss.
No they won't, look down as they crouch, basically keep aim at their head.

Turbo controllers only really work with RRX.

  • 05.26.2007 12:23 PM PDT
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i was kidding about turbo controler.... wow

  • 05.26.2007 12:25 PM PDT
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Posted by: HaloFighter92
Posted by: glass
Okay Why does everyone think turbo controls do crap! They don't... Idiots BXR doesn't always work. Without host it just drains and at the perfect angle kills. I can press BXR so fast but it doesn't always kill. Crouch when they BXR if they're looking straight they'll miss.
No they won't, look down as they crouch, basically keep aim at their head.

Turbo controllers only really work with RRX.


Crouching works wonders against BXR.

Simply moving in a direction other than right towrads the person works against BXR. Unless they play with the Claw, they can't move their reticule at your head while BXRing.

  • 05.26.2007 12:27 PM PDT
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Posted by: xVeteranBxRx
i was kidding about turbo controler.... wow
This is the internets, sarcasm is nearly impossible.

  • 05.26.2007 12:27 PM PDT
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I wouldn't call it cheating but it is cheap... Hard to explain.

Anyways, why do you guys pay so much attention to the game to even know how to do this. There videogames for gods sake, just have some fun man.

  • 05.26.2007 12:36 PM PDT
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Posted by: FK Pandemic
Posted by: HaloFighter92
Yes. XBL terms of Service says so, so did Bungie. You just have less of a chance of being banned since it can't be detected, only people can report you.

Keep in mind, I find button combos mostly dishonorable and cheap, it takes no skill, I performed a BXR that I never have before...did it first try. that means no practice=no skill. For RRX, it might take skill, but any well trained RX'r it becomes impossible to stop, no counter in sight. Kinda like modding, you need skill to do it, but it isn't fair in any way.


Button combos take skill.

Dishonorable.........LOL.
It doesn't take practice...equals no skill, any BXR'r that comes close is garenteed the kill. No good counter to it unless you have a shotgun or Sword...and MLG doesn't allow that so....

I don't see any evidence in your post :p

I hope you did not say MLG does not allow shotgun and sword........
I just meant sword, isn't that the rules? Cheap thing either way.

  • 05.26.2007 12:39 PM PDT
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Posted by: HaloFighter92
Posted by: evildude41
Posted by: HaloFighter92
Posted by: FK Pandemic
Posted by: HaloFighter92
Yes. XBL terms of Service says so, so did Bungie. You just have less of a chance of being banned since it can't be detected, only people can report you.

Keep in mind, I find button combos mostly dishonorable and cheap, it takes no skill, I performed a BXR that I never have before...did it first try. that means no practice=no skill. For RRX, it might take skill, but any well trained RX'r it becomes impossible to stop, no counter in sight. Kinda like modding, you need skill to do it, but it isn't fair in any way.


Button combos take skill.

Dishonorable.........LOL.
It doesn't take practice...equals no skill, any BXR'r that comes close is garenteed the kill. No good counter to it unless you have a shotgun or Sword...and MLG doesn't allow that so....

I don't see any evidence in your post :p

I hope you did not say MLG does not allow shotgun and sword........
I just meant sword, isn't that the rules? Cheap thing either way.



....No, there's sword in MLG.

BXR can't be called cheap at all in MLG, since everyone spawns with a weapon capable of doing it.

BXR is not cheating at MLG, at all.

  • 05.26.2007 12:46 PM PDT

It is cheating in MM.

  • 05.26.2007 1:08 PM PDT

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YEAH, PWN THAT FEETUS!

Posted by: FK Pandemic
BXR is not cheating at MLG, at all.


That is right. But the question is 'if it is cheating in MatchMaking?'

Do you agree that it is cheating in Matchmaking? MLG≠ MatchMaking. I am sure your aware of this, but this needs to be reiterated. Bungie = MatchMaking. Bungie has said they are cheating and basically if you are going to play their game on their free MM service, then you must abide by their rules.

  • 05.26.2007 1:08 PM PDT
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its not cheating its in the game 4 u 2 use there

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Posted by: glass
No it's not cheating. Really look in the cheating section of this website nothing is in there about double shoting, quad shoting, ultra shoting, bxring,bxbing. They are not because anybody can do them at any given time. Modding though costs money and is illegal. It is not part of the game. This is.


Have you even looked in the rules? Or the FAQ? It specifically talks about glitches! Modding isn't illegal by the way, it's just cheating. Also, yeah, they are 'part' of the game, but it's a glitch in the animation sequence of firing and reloading, and for bungie to take them out would mean you having to buy a new disc.

Also, for those who argue that MLG players use them, that's a completely different scenario. It's not xbox live, it's pretty much a big ol' system link game. MLG makes their rules, Bungie has a different set. And Bungie says all glitches are cheating. Superjumps, bxr's, dubshots, etc.

If you say it takes skill to do it, and that it's so hard to do, how about you just play normally, instead of sitting in custom games double shotting a wall for an hour?

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  • 05.26.2007 1:24 PM PDT

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its not cheating its in the game 4 u 2 use there
Tell that to the people who made the game and see what they say. Oh, they say it is cheating. I guess that makes you wrong.

By the way, when you are trying to say "it is" you use "it's."

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  • 05.26.2007 1:24 PM PDT
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it isn't cheating.. mlg allows it so mm should definitely allow it. double shooting is hard to get the hang but it is awesome when you do. BXR's are just as sweet. Just because you cant do it you call it cheating.

  • 05.26.2007 1:35 PM PDT

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