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Posted by: c_marvel360
u get the -blam!- out of here -blam!- go play ur wackass dull boring f.ucked up halo.


Yeah, walking faster, having more powerful weapons, and having shinier graphics sure is dull.

We're all entitled to our opinions, but I don't see why some people have to be such an ass about not liking a game. .


right right im not trying to be an ass but its the way i talk and i have to kus but it doesnt mean im mad or anything i just kus.but ill keep my self in check im not trying to give people the worng idea even tho i know i have hell if i have to say im sorry then i will but i dont have to so whatever.btw i dont see a differnece in walking speed with halo and halo2 cuz im used to both games,ya there are more powerful weapons but u dont really need them u learn to live without them,the graphics in halo2 are better then that of halo im sure of that.

  • 05.30.2007 10:41 AM PDT

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Posted by: lpjuunin
c_marvel, I'm going to start talking to you like I talk to the 6 year olds I teach/help out during my summer job. Maybe you'll finally understand.

Listen you little kid, just because a game has slightly better graphics, the noob-knife (sword), and a homing rocket, does not mean the game is even SLIGHTLY better. Oh and I forgot: a game that has the number 2 or 3 after its title does not make it better.

Got all that? Go lick up your little ice cream cone, I think it's melting from your pathetic tears.


lol hahahha ok.everything about halo2 is just better than halo.

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Posted by: c_marvel360
Posted by: lpjuunin
c_marvel, I'm going to start talking to you like I talk to the 6 year olds I teach/help out during my summer job. Maybe you'll finally understand.

Listen you little kid, just because a game has slightly better graphics, the noob-knife (sword), and a homing rocket, does not mean the game is even SLIGHTLY better. Oh and I forgot: a game that has the number 2 or 3 after its title does not make it better.

Got all that? Go lick up your little ice cream cone, I think it's melting from your pathetic tears.


lol hahahha ok.everything about halo2 is just better than halo.


Wow you still don't get it. I actually explained to you why H2 is not better than H1, yet you still say something stupid like "everything about halo2 is just better than halo.". I would understand that a kid like you might've forgot what I've said 5 minutes ago if you posted tommorow, but right after I post this? You STILL don't get it?

You lied about your age for b.net signup haven't you? Now get out.

  • 05.30.2007 10:45 AM PDT

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Posted by: lpjuunin
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Posted by: lpjuunin
c_marvel, I'm going to start talking to you like I talk to the 6 year olds I teach/help out during my summer job. Maybe you'll finally understand.

Listen you little kid, just because a game has slightly better graphics, the noob-knife (sword), and a homing rocket, does not mean the game is even SLIGHTLY better. Oh and I forgot: a game that has the number 2 or 3 after its title does not make it better.

Got all that? Go lick up your little ice cream cone, I think it's melting from your pathetic tears.


lol hahahha ok.everything about halo2 is just better than halo.


Wow you still don't get it. I actually explained to you why H2 is not better than H1, yet you still say something stupid like "everything about halo2 is just better than halo.". I would understand that a kid like you might've forgot what I've said 5 minutes ago if you posted tommorow, but right after I post this? You STILL don't get it?

You lied about your age for b.net signup haven't you? Now get out.


ya i guess if i havent got it now then im never going to get it so just quit and leave then.''halopc sux ass''

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C marvel is obviously quite young and immature. Just move a long and ignore.

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Posted by: Romanticide
C marvel is obviously quite young and immature. Just move a long and ignore.


true true.

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Posted by:Ipjuunin
LMFAO. H1PC kicks h2v's ass anyday, not the other way around. And am I smoking crack? Nah, maybe a Marlboro or two, but in this case, you're the one smoking crack, and being blindassed by M$ and Live propaganda. H2 for Xbox was definitely NOT better than H1, so why do you think a half-assed port like h2v will be any better than a fairly decent port as H1PC?

And I'm sure of the arguments so you won't bother to say them? That clearly means you have no -blam!-ing clue on how it is better. You're one of those kiddos who think a game with better graphics, "cooler, more overpowered" weapons, and the number 2 or 3 after the title name is the better game. Grow the hell up retard.


Posted by: lpjuunin
c_marvel, I'm going to start talking to you like I talk to the 6 year olds I teach/help out during my summer job. Maybe you'll finally understand.

Listen you little kid, just because a game has slightly better graphics, the noob-knife (sword), and a homing rocket, does not mean the game is even SLIGHTLY better. Oh and I forgot: a game that has the number 2 or 3 after its title does not make it better.

Got all that? Go lick up your little ice cream cone, I think it's melting from your pathetic tears.


Posted by:Ipjuunin
Wow you still don't get it. I actually explained to you why H2 is not better than H1, yet you still say something stupid like "everything about halo2 is just better than halo.". I would understand that a kid like you might've forgot what I've said 5 minutes ago if you posted tommorow, but right after I post this? You STILL don't get it?

You lied about your age for b.net signup haven't you? Now get out.


ok... First of all if you're going to insist that any rude person is a child than you should probably ease up off the insults yourself. You made plenty enough rude comments so stop being hypocritical. Secondly, I must be a 6 year old as well because I really want you to STFU. I certainly hope you don't talk to the kids that you "teach/help" this way; if you do you suck.

Let people think what they want to think, and stop arguing about a which game is better.

H2V's netcode is far superior to HPC's. Get over it. Don't say that you just need to adjust to the errors and get over them. Why get over them when you don't have to put up with them. And yes, all the gameplay mechanics from Halo 2 were transfered over to the H2V, just like Halo CE was to HPC. So if you liked the first one more than the second you probably will when comparing the PC versions. HPC has tons of patches making it more Halo 2-esque, by recreating maps and weapons from Halo 2. Does that by any chance tell you something?

MOST ports suck! Notice how I used the word "MOST". The games were designed with a particular console in mind. When you port something over you often lose some aspect of gameplay. In certain situations, the company doing the port tries to make up for it in other areas. I have to give a hand to Hired Gun for providing a better look with higher resolutions. Of course it doesn't look like FEAR, GRAW, R6, Oblivion or any other good looking PC game, it's how old? And oh wait, it was developed for the XBOX not the PC. It does suck that only Vista users can play it and that the retail price tag is $50. But when HPC was released it came out at a high price tag and it took just as long to get ported.

Usually games that have better graphics and more content are better btw. But I guess you can split hairs and argue what better means, whether you're talking about gameplay, content, or overall quality. Ever heard of that phrase, "To each his own?" Probably not, otherwise you wouldn't insist that one version is better than another; unless you have facts to back up your claim that is.

Instead of having a pissing competition and arguing which is better, why don't you just accept that both have their pros and cons and discuss what this thread was created for, Halo 2 Multiplayer aspects.

Speaking of which, does anyone know about how many players are on as of now since it hasn't been officially released yet?

Edit-Holy -blam!- Ipjuunin, I didn't read your last post until after I posted this, but someone obviously hasn't eaten today. First of all, you're acting just as "childish", i prefer rude seeing as how that's more accurate, as anyone else here. And you have not provided one single shred of factual information to back up your claim that Halo 1 is better. But whatever dude, to each his own. <- That phrase, memorize, understand it, learn it. It's your friend.

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  • 05.30.2007 11:29 AM PDT

Posted by: Nessy

The bungie.net community is the halo PC community that is renowned for being unbelieveably sucky.

My advice to Iggwilv: figure out what Static is doing and try to copy him. :) Just ask him for some 1v1 practice.

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Posted by: Frnksnbns
My advice to Iggwilv: figure out what Static is doing and try to copy him. :) Just ask him for some 1v1 practice.

"Good artists copy, great artists steal." Don't know where my friend got the quote but it fits for the online gaming world. The only way you improve is by getting experience and doing what works. In this sense headshots with no shields is a quick and easy kill, well easy after practice.

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  • 05.30.2007 11:40 AM PDT

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Posted by: Iggwilv

*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

Very well said, KusanagiKeitaro. lpjuiuinun had it coming for a while as he always critizes people for calling him out then turns around and does the exact same thing. It would be one thing if he admits to doing it but he then blames the other person for everything. He is truly special.

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Wow....just wow. I was just cruising through, saw something by Iggy, and decided to see what was up. And instead of a mature conversation I usually find in these forums, I find this piece of -blam!-. As I went through the pages, I began losing hope for this forum, until I came upon KusanagiKeitaro's post coming down like a ray of light from heaven itself. I completely agree with everything he said, and I've decided that until you people decide to stop being so much like the screaming 6-year-olds that we always complain about, then Im out.

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  • 05.30.2007 2:05 PM PDT

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There's only about 30 players on at a time right now. There are about 24 MS Dedi servers on permenently, and another 8 or so user dedis. I'm planning on getting with staticx and others with Halo2 experience to learn from. I should finish up the campaign tonight and will concentrate solely on Live. Maybe I should just kidnap staticx and chain in front of my PC and force him to play under my gamertag.

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Posted by: Iggwilv
There's only about 30 players on at a time right now. There are about 24 MS Dedi servers on permenently, and another 8 or so user dedis. I'm planning on getting with staticx and others with Halo2 experience to learn from. I should finish up the campaign tonight and will concentrate solely on Live. Maybe I should just kidnap staticx and chain in front of my PC and force him to play under my gamertag.
Or you can use me instead.

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Posted by: c_marvel360
Posted by: lpjuunin
c_marvel, I'm going to start talking to you like I talk to the 6 year olds I teach/help out during my summer job. Maybe you'll finally understand.

Listen you little kid, just because a game has slightly better graphics, the noob-knife (sword), and a homing rocket, does not mean the game is even SLIGHTLY better. Oh and I forgot: a game that has the number 2 or 3 after its title does not make it better.

Got all that? Go lick up your little ice cream cone, I think it's melting from your pathetic tears.


lol hahahha ok.everything about halo2 is just better than halo.

You're forgetting the pistol.

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Posted by: ZC Tango
You're forgetting the pistol.
"Don't argue with idiots. They bring you down to their level and beat you at their own game."

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I didn't know being an idiot was a game... Although it seems logical since they fail at everything else.

And be careful KusangiKeitaro, ippjunininininininin (whatever...) really loves to freak out at people who chastise him.

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Gearbox's screw ups:
-Netcode
-Textures
-Shaders
-High requirements (for the time)
-Leaving Glitches
-Adding weapons & vehicles that made the game worse.

Gearboxes happy times
-Halo CE
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Hired Gun's Screw Ups:
-Leaving glitches
-Not being able to make custom bipeds, weapons, vehicles, etc.
-High System Requirments

Hired Guns Happy Times:
-Upped textures by a lot
-A map editor that kicks ass if you try to make maps with it.
-First tray n' Play Game
-Achievements
-Improved AI (I swear, I've scene my marines act different and fight different than on the xbox)
-New shaders
-Functioning Netcode

Compare those results.

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who says you have to be an ace to have fun?

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Stupid parents let their stupid children play games that are rated M when they should be playing Big Birds Spelling Adventures

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Also the AR is actually good in CQB now and no longer a glorified baseball bat.

Posted by: KusanagiKeitaro
Posted by: lpjuunin
c_marvel, I'm going to start talking to you like I talk to the 6 year olds I teach/help out during my summer job. Maybe you'll finally understand.

Listen you little kid, just because a game has slightly better graphics, the noob-knife (sword), and a homing rocket, does not mean the game is even SLIGHTLY better. Oh and I forgot: a game that has the number 2 or 3 after its title does not make it better.

Got all that? Go lick up your little ice cream cone, I think it's melting from your pathetic tears.


Posted by:Ipjuunin
Wow you still don't get it. I actually explained to you why H2 is not better than H1, yet you still say something stupid like "everything about halo2 is just better than halo.". I would understand that a kid like you might've forgot what I've said 5 minutes ago if you posted tommorow, but right after I post this? You STILL don't get it?

You lied about your age for b.net signup haven't you? Now get out.


ok... First of all if you're going to insist that any rude person is a child than you should probably ease up off the insults yourself. You made plenty enough rude comments so stop being hypocritical. Secondly, I must be a 6 year old as well because I really want you to STFU. I certainly hope you don't talk to the kids that you "teach/help" this way; if you do you suck.


Yep. I dunno about where you come from, but around here we call people like lpjuuninn bullies.

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Posted by: No Refunds
Gearbox's screw ups:
-Netcode
-Textures
-Shaders
-High requirements (for the time)
-Leaving Glitches
-Adding weapons & vehicles that made the game worse.

Gearboxes happy times
-Halo CE
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Hired Gun's Screw Ups:
-Leaving glitches
-Not being able to make custom bipeds, weapons, vehicles, etc.
-High System Requirments

Hired Guns Happy Times:
-Upped textures by a lot
-A map editor that kicks ass if you try to make maps with it.
-First tray n' Play Game
-Achievements
-Improved AI (I swear, I've scene my marines act different and fight different than on the xbox)
-New shaders
-Functioning Netcode

Compare those results.

Here is a better version of your chart.
Hired gun scrw ups.
1.they put -blam!-pics at the end of legendary, and the map editor.
2.Dealys/delayed a lot.
3. The map editor scks my leftie.
4.Adding weapons that are for n00bs!
5.Not making Cross-platform play.
6.Tray and play.

Things good about Hired gun:
1.Netcode.
2.Updated graphics.
3. wait nothing fits here.
4.Better AI.

Gearbox screw ups:
1.Netcode.
2.No support.

Gear box good times.
1.Skiled weapons.
2.halo CE.
3.A tricky but awsome map editor.
4.Good graphics for the time.
Gearbox>Hired gun.

  • 05.30.2007 7:31 PM PDT

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Posted by: No Refunds
Gearbox's screw ups:
-Netcode
-Textures
-Shaders
-Leaving Glitches

Gearboxes happy times
-Halo CE
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Hired Gun's Screw Ups:
-Leaving glitches

Hired Guns Happy Times:
-Upped textures by a lot
-A map editor that kicks ass if you try to make maps with it.
-Achievements
-Improved AI (I swear, I've scene my marines act different and fight different than on the xbox)
-New shaders
-Functioning Netcode

Compare those results.

Here is a better version of your chart.
Hired gun scrw ups.


Things good about Hired gun:
1.Netcode.
2.Updated graphics.
4.Better AI.

Gearbox screw ups:
1.Netcode.
2.No support.

Gear box good times.
2.halo CE.
3.A tricky but awsome map editor.
4.Good graphics for the time.



I fixed your lists.

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  • 05.30.2007 7:56 PM PDT

i agree that the halo games for pc have a very low FOV, although I havn't played multiplayer in 2, but isn't melee actually weaker? i know in single player you had to melee them like 3 times with weak guns

i also think halo 1 was a better port cuz

unlike halo 1 pc, it doesn't remember your set refresh rate when you exit out and go back in
less graphics optimization options, instead of things like shadows on/off, decals on/off, model quality, etc, theres only 3 detail options which is high, medium, and low
you can't run this game at all if you don't have the hardware requirements, even if you play in low detail, but you could play halo 1 with whatever video card you have
you need vista too which runs games slower because of the lack of drivers and lots of processes running
the controls are a little harder to bind, it gets annoying when a key is in use and you have to go find it and delete it, and i couldn't even bind my middle mouse button for some reason

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Posted by: lpjuunin

Get out. Halo1PC will always kick h2v's ass. So get outta here.

Are you smoking crack? H1PC was the worst port in history of the best game ever. H2V > H1PC any day. I'm sure you know what arguments I will pull to support my statement, so I won't even bother. It's too obvious.
Wow, if anybody, you're the one who's smoking crack. Halo PC? Not only is Halo PC far from being the worst port ever (as bad as a port it was), Halo 2 Vista is much worse. I don't know what arguments you're going to use--they're not obvious at all, unless you really are smoking crack.


Netcoding.

Enough said.

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Posted by: someguy
I began losing hope for this forum, until I came upon KusanagiKeitaro's post coming down like a ray of light from heaven itself.

Thanks, I'd like to think that people can act logical if they try. Let's hope for the best.

Posted by:ZC Tango
You're forgetting the pistol.

Very true. I'm looking forward to its return in Halo 3, although they did make it more balanced. Also, give it a few months or so and then you'll see someone releasing a patch to get in the Halo 1 weapons in H2V. Everyone likes things from both games so it's natural to see mods to incorporate weapons/mpas only available in the other version. Especially with the new map editor, expect hardcore fans to release Halo 1 maps (as close as they can get them) for Halo 2.

Posted by: Iggwilv
There's only about 30 players on at a time right now. There are about 24 MS Dedi servers on permenently, and another 8 or so user dedis.

Ok so now I know what you mean by playing with the same people all the time. Ya, the circuit city in Hayward, CA still has copies and amazingly enough must've not gotten notice from Microsoft because they're still selling them. Also on sale for $38 now. I went down and exchanged my bad copy and got a price match. Was able to play 1 level last night before I went to sleep, it's crazy how easy it is with a mouse and keyboard. I don't think it will be as difficult to beat on legendary now. As soon as I'm done with campaign, and after Halo 3 Beta ends, I'll join you guys online.

Posted by: TUI_Obi_Wan
And be careful KusangiKeitaro, ippjunininininininin (whatever...) really loves to freak out at people who chastise him.

Eh, he's not a mod; I'm so not worried. He'd also just be proving my point.

Posted by: Link Gray
Netcoding.

Enough said.

And I'm so glad this aspect got worked on. Hired Gun, 2 thumbs up!

I was checking out the available maps, why didn't Hired Gun include the 2 new maps that they just made in the release? Hopefully they'll have them as free downloads for H2V. I know they're going to be free in June or July for the Xbox version.

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