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Subject: Are Spartans better the Elites

Posted by: sk8boardinlink
Posted by: Slayer706
A few days ago I decided to see for myself if the rumors of Spartans being better than elites were true. I played as an elite in every gametype.

I concluded they aren't at a disadvantage in anything. If elites are so easy to head shot, then I should have done worse in Team Swat, where a headshot means instant death. In reality though, I did just as well as I normally do in Team Swat.


Well, I hate to admit, but it is easier to head shot an elite than it is a spartan. The reason you didn't do any worse is because, if somebody is going to aim at your head, their gonna hit you there, they aren't going to miss by that little tiny bit.
Then explain why when I played Double Team or Team Slayer the people still had to two shot me with a sniper. If elites are easier to headshot, I should die to headshots more than normal. The fact is, I didn't.

  • 05.31.2007 12:32 PM PDT

Heres a nice little post that i found searching old forums.

Posted by:Sword_Teabag12
This is insane, there is virtually no difference what-so-ever. They each have a little disadvantage and advantage, but nothing major! Here:

Spartan
Advantages
* Sword Lunge distance is a bit longer
Disadvantages
* Can be sniped from any angle, side, back, or front
* Ducks down not as far as the elite.

Elite
Advantages
* Cannot be sniped from the back.
* Ducks down lower
Disadvantages
* Sword Lunge distance is a bit shorter
* Easier to snipe from front/side.

Things that are the same
* All weapon using except the sword.
* The way they are controled
* Run the same speed
* Jump the same height
* Same HUD Setup.
* Same exact health.
* Hitboxes are the same.
* Basically everything in halo 2 other than the position of the head,ducking height, and sword lunge.

The advantages/disadvantages don't give much... lets see:
* Sword Lunge distance
Wow, its only like half a step futher. Not much distance when your running towards your enemy at full speed. You prolly take at least 2 steps a second. And even if it is longer, the elite can adapt, if the spartan lunges while then elite's target isn't red, it will turn red in half a second and then the elite can slash, they might go threw each other but now the elite can go get the spartan with a sword lunge.
* Sniping
Now here a kinda big difference, the elite can't be sniped from the back, but its easier for him to get sniped from the front. But a spartan can get 1 shot sniped from ANY angle. EVERY angle. You name it, 10 degrees, 20,35,50,65,76,82,97,170, any angle. But the elite can only be headshoted at 180/360 angles.
Spartan Hits
Elite Hits
* Ducking
This can mean a little. The lower you duck the more you are out of danger. Exampe: If theres a wall(like the one at the base in Accession(sp?), up top) A spartan may not be able to duck 100% behind it, while an elite can. Therefore the spartan can still be sniped, while the elite cannot.

THEY ARE ALMOST EXACTLY THE SAME.

  • 05.31.2007 12:35 PM PDT

Posted by: Slayer706
Posted by: sk8boardinlink
Posted by: Slayer706
A few days ago I decided to see for myself if the rumors of Spartans being better than elites were true. I played as an elite in every gametype.

I concluded they aren't at a disadvantage in anything. If elites are so easy to head shot, then I should have done worse in Team Swat, where a headshot means instant death. In reality though, I did just as well as I normally do in Team Swat.


Well, I hate to admit, but it is easier to head shot an elite than it is a spartan. The reason you didn't do any worse is because, if somebody is going to aim at your head, their gonna hit you there, they aren't going to miss by that little tiny bit.
Then explain why when I played Double Team or Team Slayer the people still had to two shot me with a sniper. If elites are easier to headshot, I should die to headshots more than normal. The fact is, I didn't.


Let's emphasize a main part of my post here
The reason you didn't do any worse is because, if somebody is going to aim at your head, their gonna hit you there, they aren't going to miss by that little tiny bit.

  • 05.31.2007 12:37 PM PDT

Posted by: sk8boardinlink
Posted by: Slayer706
Posted by: sk8boardinlink
Posted by: Slayer706
A few days ago I decided to see for myself if the rumors of Spartans being better than elites were true. I played as an elite in every gametype.

I concluded they aren't at a disadvantage in anything. If elites are so easy to head shot, then I should have done worse in Team Swat, where a headshot means instant death. In reality though, I did just as well as I normally do in Team Swat.


Well, I hate to admit, but it is easier to head shot an elite than it is a spartan. The reason you didn't do any worse is because, if somebody is going to aim at your head, their gonna hit you there, they aren't going to miss by that little tiny bit.
Then explain why when I played Double Team or Team Slayer the people still had to two shot me with a sniper. If elites are easier to headshot, I should die to headshots more than normal. The fact is, I didn't.


Let's emphasize a main part of my post here
The reason you didn't do any worse is because, if somebody is going to aim at your head, their gonna hit you there, they aren't going to miss by that little tiny bit.
That argument seems to support the fact that elites are not easier to headshot.... I don't understand why you would argue against your own position.

  • 05.31.2007 12:42 PM PDT

Yes, your right, that is arguing against my opinion, sort of, it's hard for me to phrase, It is easier, but a good sniper will still shoot you in the head anyway, so it really dosn't matter. There, that's good.

EDIT: I have now put a little more though into my idea. The only time the Elites head is bigger is from the side, anyways. It is next to possible to headshot an Elite from behind, And if your sniping from the side if you aim too far to the back of the neck, it's a body shot. The Heads are the same size, Slayer, you are correct, sorry for arguing.

[Edited on 05.31.2007 12:54 PM PDT]

  • 05.31.2007 12:47 PM PDT
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Spartan, I just love sitting in a shaded corner of coagulation, seeing an elite wonder by, and -BLAMing- his brains out of his protruding head, they're also nice and big, easy targets! I think choice of species should be fazed out or decided by team in Halo 3, but otherwise Its always gonna be spartans.

  • 05.31.2007 1:16 PM PDT

Elite, I just love sitting in a shaded corner of coagulation, seeing a spartan wonder by, and -BLAMing- his brains out of his non-protruding head, they're also nice and tall, easy targets! I don't think choice of species should be fazed out or decided by team in Halo 3, because it adds to the gameplay experience. Otherwise, it is always gonna be elites.

  • 05.31.2007 2:17 PM PDT
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In case you didnt know, the jumps are the same, how many times do I have to say ACHRONOS TOLD YOU SO!.
the spartans got better armor and can look better (faster) to aim and elites got one good thing they are unseen if they use the camo and if the spartans use it you can see them easy;)
Alright, smartass. Take one thing into consideration: LOOK. SENSITIVITY. CONTROL.

  • 05.31.2007 3:25 PM PDT
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Posted by: Spartan6692
I think Elites are better

Your name matches your vote well ;)

  • 05.31.2007 3:49 PM PDT
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group membership This thread is full of idiots.

To the average player, there is little actual difference. What differences there are, they happen to average out over the course of the game.

It is simply a different model. Deal with it. I am so utterly sick of this stupid debate of which is better. Some of you have even taken to dedicating groups to each model and then starting "wars" between groups that prefer the other model. Keep it up, and I'll just start deleting groups that use the group system for that purpose.

Back on topic though, you people need to be careful - several of you are lucky you haven't been banned based on your comments in this thread. A few more like that and this utterly stupid thread is getting locked and the lot of you banned for a month.

  • 05.31.2007 4:01 PM PDT
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happy birthday

  • 05.31.2007 4:02 PM PDT

I do that quite a lot, actually. Yet people are always surprised.

Posted by: Sukaly56
happy birthday

Spam, much?

Anyway, I like Spartans better. The Blue HUD looks better.
Plus, mixing colours on the elites looks.. weird unless it's one colour.

  • 05.31.2007 4:25 PM PDT

I hate everything, but it's not my fault.

This thread is dumb.

  • 05.31.2007 5:27 PM PDT

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