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Subject: Boycott Halo 2 Vista
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Posted by: Chaosenemy
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I haven't experienced ANY bugs whatsoever. And I don't see how there's horrible optimization. The game runs as smooth as butter on my rig.


Bugs/glitches: (to name a few)
-You can't go into crouch mode while walking, this can be annoying.
-Sometimes I can see certain lighting effects through walls (like the plasma pistol charging up or the lights on the elite's armor).
-Chat is really messed up... if you are typing and you hit the same key that you used to activate the chat, it leaves chat mode.
-I've had the game crash on me a few times for no apparent reason.
-Many people have been having trouble loading campaign maps.
-Many have also had trouble with tray and play.
-All bugs/glitches from Halo 2 Xbox are still there: button comboing, superbouncing, etc.
-Etc.

Most of those are just minor problems, but when there's enough of them... it's very annoying.

As for poor optimization... I'm guesing you received your computer from God himself, or it's just amazing. My PC can run CS: Source, Doom 3, etc. with all video settings maxed out, on the highest resolution and I get a very decent framerate. Now on Halo 2 Vista, I'm running on medium details, 800x600 resolution and 4x anti-aliasing, and I get 30 frames or less plus random lag spikes. Also, turning off anti-aliasing doesn't help, and turning the details on low only increases my frames to maybe 40 a second. There's something very wrong there. And I'm not the only one that's been having framerate problems with this game either.


I will admit that my computer is pretty high end.

AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+
2GB DDR2 RAM
Geforce 8800GTS

But some of those bugs I don't see at all, such as the lighting effects through walls, loading campaign maps, crashing. The only real problems I experienced were when I first installed it, I did the tray and play option, and I got a few blue screens after that. Decided to uninstall it, reinstalled with the "install now, play later" option, worked fine after that. Sometimes if I start the game from the DVD then I'll complete one level then it'll tell me I have to "insert original Halo 2 disk" and kick me back to the main menu, so I started the game from the .exe and it works fine.

I can understand where you're coming from though. It seems to me like it's a RAM hog. Just today I upgraded from 1GB to 2GB of RAM, and when I had 1GB (which was on the recommended specs) it would lag horribly at the beginning of cutscenes, but after that it'd be fine. I think Microsoft didn't really have the mid-range PC in mind when porting this game. As much as I like this game, some of Microsoft's... methods don't exactly appeal to me. For example, I'd be angry too if I didn't already have LIVE which would severely limit MP gaming.

  • 06.01.2007 5:40 PM PDT
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did any one hear about the orange box from valve? I sure as hell can't wait to get it for the 360 and pc. It has a new game called portal. it basically has 3 games in one package for the 360 and ps3 and pc. And the best part about it is VALVe doesn't force you to buy a new expensive (possibly more bugs not sure) vista. You can play the game with an operating system you already have. Until you decide you self to make the switch. Get Steam damn it for some of you who don't have it.

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  • 06.01.2007 9:17 PM PDT
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I feel like I got ripped off buying this game. My wife and I play Halo1 and really wanted halo2 for the new maps. We had to buy 2 agp 1950 cards, 2 4300 Dual Core's, 2 new motherboards, 2 gigs of ram for each pc, and now my sound card has to be upgraded since halo2 has problems with my audigy 2 zs. The game is really slow on the huge levels and there should be no excuse for my hardware. How can a game that is being upscaled from 6 year old hardware (700mhz) not run on 2 cores? lol

  • 06.01.2007 10:07 PM PDT
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To the OP:

Iron, I understand where you're coming from. I don't like the fact that Microsoft is trying to leverage a new FPS (Shadowrun) and an old FPS (Halo 2) as "strategic marketing" to sell Vista, either.

That said, I did buy H2V even though I have the original. See, I've had Vista since launch. I didn't buy Vista for H2V or Shadowrun, I bought it because I'm insane and like to try new stuff. And I've dealt with my fair share of problems since Vista. Hell, I just got it running to where I'd call it "stable" after 4 months of waiting for, tinkering with, and installing various drivers.

Additionally, I didn't have to pay a cent for Games for Windows - Live Gold. I'm sure it's been mentioned before but if you have an XBL Gold account, when you set up your profile for GFW - Live, you'll automatically download your profile as a Gold member. So if you already have XBL Gold and get a game like H2V, your GFWL membership level will be Gold as well.

For the record, I'm vehemently opposed to the whole idea of Games for Windows - Live. The model works well for the console world but, in my opinion, it doesn't work so well in the computer world where we had multiplayer online gaming LONG before consoles became online friendly. Do I think it's nifty that when I press my Home key, I get a nifty X360 style blade that shows all of my info between my X360 and PC-Live games? Sure. Do I think it's necessary? Not at all. Did Shadowrun for PC really need to be cross-platform capable? After all, if I have XBL Gold already, what incentive do I have to get Shadowrun for PC over X360? Not much. If I don't have GFW-Live Gold, is being able to play cross-platform really that much of a motivation to plunk down the money to go from Silver (PC-to-PC only play) to Gold (PC-to-PC/X360 play)? All in all, this whole Live for Windows thing seems like Microsoft trying to reinvent the wheel on PC gaming to be able to use the same profitable model of subscriptions and content downloads - a gamble I'm not so sure will pay off.

Posted by: JesusisGod
We had to buy 2 agp 1950 cards, 2 4300 Dual Core's, 2 new motherboards, 2 gigs of ram for each pc, and now my sound card has to be upgraded since halo2 has problems with my audigy 2 zs.


Please tell me you didn't do all that upgrading JUST to play Halo 2 PC.

[Edited on 06.02.2007 12:44 AM PDT]

  • 06.02.2007 12:29 AM PDT
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Posted by: Iron Curtain
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OMG, OP you absolute noob! Ignore this guy everyone, he's copy and pasting this thread EVERYWHERE he can find! He's already posted the exact same thread over on GameFAQs and Gamespot! He's just flaming a game he doesn't want, big deal!


And your point? Yes, I did post it on GameSpot (GameFAQs shares a few of the same boards), but so what? I'm a noob for wanting to get my point across at more than this fanboy-infested board?
Like GameFAQs and GameSpot aren't fanboy-infested boards. :D

  • 06.02.2007 9:48 AM PDT
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Posted by: Iron Curtain
Posted by: Master_Dragon
OMG, OP you absolute noob! Ignore this guy everyone, he's copy and pasting this thread EVERYWHERE he can find! He's already posted the exact same thread over on GameFAQs and Gamespot! He's just flaming a game he doesn't want, big deal!


And your point? Yes, I did post it on GameSpot (GameFAQs shares a few of the same boards), but so what? I'm a noob for wanting to get my point across at more than this fanboy-infested board?

Gamefaqs/Gamespot is a lot worse. Kids avoid the whole "you have to be at least 13" thing and sign up an account anyways. Sure, they do that all over the place, but there's an unbelievable abundance of children there.

EDIT: LMAO, you guys should know that the topic creator is lol_waffles a.k.a. Johnny Orcface.

[Edited on 06.02.2007 10:14 AM PDT]

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Posted by: Agamemnon582bc
Posted by: Iron Curtain
Posted by: Master_Dragon
OMG, OP you absolute noob! Ignore this guy everyone, he's copy and pasting this thread EVERYWHERE he can find! He's already posted the exact same thread over on GameFAQs and Gamespot! He's just flaming a game he doesn't want, big deal!


And your point? Yes, I did post it on GameSpot (GameFAQs shares a few of the same boards), but so what? I'm a noob for wanting to get my point across at more than this fanboy-infested board?

Gamefaqs/Gamespot is a lot worse. Kids avoid the whole "you have to be at least 13" thing and sign up an account anyways. Sure, they do that all over the place, but there's an unbelievable abundance of children there.

EDIT: LMAO, you guys should know that the topic creator is lol_waffles a.k.a. Johnny Orcface.


Wait...Iron Curtain is Orcface?!?!

  • 06.02.2007 12:01 PM PDT
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Posted by: TUI_Obi_Wan
And it's your connection that's slower than turtle sex.

In........................................................Out .

...Wait, you have to pay to play online on H2V?! Then SCREW THAT.

  • 06.02.2007 2:27 PM PDT
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Posted by: stare3
...Wait, you have to pay to play online on H2V?! Then SCREW THAT.
Read the FAQ. You can play Halo 2 Vista online for free.

  • 06.02.2007 2:28 PM PDT
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i must say i do think the whole games for windows live or what ever its called its pretty damn stupid. paying to play PC games!? but what do i really care i dont have a pc good enough to run the sims.

  • 06.02.2007 2:30 PM PDT

Slaying noobs since 2007.

Posted by: gweedyj
i must say i do think the whole games for windows live or what ever its called its pretty damn stupid. paying to play PC games!? but what do i really care i dont have a pc good enough to run the sims.

You along with the rest of communist China......

  • 06.02.2007 2:37 PM PDT
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Posted by: stare3
...Wait, you have to pay to play online on H2V?! Then SCREW THAT.


No, you only have to pay for Gold features if you're not already a GFWL or XBL Gold subscriber.
GFWL Silver allows you to play against PCs free of charge.

Here's the link to the Games for Windows - Live Info page. Scroll down a little past half to read the differences between Silver and Gold. As far as I know, currently, there's only a very few things you CAN'T do on H2V as a Silver subscriber. I believe, at least according to the manual, hosting your own games is restricted to Gold subscribers, but that's about it, likewise, you can only get Single Player achievements (according to the site).

In the case of games like Shadowrun, you'd have to have Gold to be able to play cross-platform.

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  • 06.02.2007 2:47 PM PDT
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windows live is a joke. All other fps shooters on the pc are free. Steam is way better than windows live and is free. I don't think windows live has a chance against modern fps shooters and rpg's for the pc that are already running.

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Posted by: maverickz
windows live is a joke. All other fps shooters on the pc are free. Steam is way better than windows live and is free. I don't think windows live has a chance against modern fps shooters and rpg's for the pc that are already running.


I agree to a point. I'll bet ppl thought the same thing when XBox live first came out on the original XBox and look at it now, i know that in the world of Pc's things are different. I also hate to tell you that you can still play H2V free also, its called a silver account.

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  • 06.02.2007 7:16 PM PDT
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Where's my pizza?

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Posted by: BlazingBullets9
Where's my pizza?


i ate it, sry

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