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Subject: Why do sponsered clans think they are better??!?!?!?!?!!
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When people like me and my clan destroy way too many sponsered clans on a daily basis?!?!? I thought clans like KSI, XGC, KOG, and such are supposed to be the dominant clans? But yes they out number us, but they have needless to say only decent players?! Nobody that great that we have played worth being sponsered for!

HOW do you get sponsered? By Recruting Mass numbers of people who are not good? Or having one clan that is Skillfully unstoppable??? And they BLACK LIST people so you cant play with you friends from other clans? Are using this game Like -blam!- Germany? Seems like it! Yet they form the trash talking and countless insults thinking they are the best cause they are "Sponsered".

I am sure there alot of poeple out there that are either been apart of it or have seen this for your self. I am am sorry to say i have been in KSI one form of branch that me and my cousin formed under their permission. We had 76 deep and they BLACK LISTED us for beating them too often and accused us of some "Out Their" reason.

Anyone think this is right??!?!?

  • 05.29.2007 7:26 AM PDT
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all those huge clans are horrible..they get sponsored for the amount of people they get not the skill
most of them are legit 20's and then they may have a few decent people but thats all

and there not even close to being "dominate clans"

  • 05.29.2007 7:46 AM PDT

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You must understand sir that 90% of the players you find withs KSI XGC or other gamertags are not in these clans and never have been.

At the start KSI was a very good clan with good players only however someone was given a promotion that was the wrong choice and the clan was quickly filled with noobs and cheaters. They could have booted all these members but the reputation of the clan had already been damaged beyond repair. So they decided to leave KSI and start a new clan. All legitimate members of KSI quit and left the clan to the noobs to do as they pleased.

If my memory serves me correctly then the clan they started was XGC. And with much stricter member screening processes there are not. (To my knowledge) any noobs and cheaters in XGC. And the XGC gamertag noobs you find are most probably in a copycat clan.

Of course not all of the members of these clans are high class the required skill to get in is merely to be an above average or good player. But their top tier members are the impressive ones and they are the players they are sponsored for however they only play amongst themselves and other great players.

I am afraid I have no knowledge on KOG so to speak.

I hope you understood what I just said because it was a little hard to explain

  • 05.29.2007 8:20 AM PDT
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The only reason people think KSI cheat's is because some modders got in there clan and the clan didn't know they modded at the time, and the modders were banned so now everyone talks down to them.

  • 05.29.2007 8:53 AM PDT
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I remember when clanmatch was around we used to get KSI a lot, and we would destroy them game after game, it was hilarious cause someone mentioned that they were sponsored... very sad.

  • 05.29.2007 12:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: Xiahou Dun
You must understand sir that 90% of the players you find withs KSI XGC or other gamertags are not in these clans and never have been.



Way to make up a stat, that is wrong.

Accoding to you, there's probably somewhere in the area of 300,000/400,000 XGC, KSI, and MoB tags.

Do you know how many members each of these communities actually has? Each is in the 10,000s, or has been at one point.

  • 05.29.2007 12:59 PM PDT

I'd Rather Be A Smartass Than A Dumbass

The stat was indeed wrong sir let me rephrase that.

Around 90% of the players you normally find with these gamertags are not in these clans.

There are a lot of people in these clans yes but most of them only really play amongst themselves.

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He did not state ,however, that 90% of gamertags are copycats, he said that the majority of people with "KSI Gamertags" are not truly in the clan.
Im pretty sure thats right... c:

  • 05.29.2007 1:03 PM PDT
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Posted by: Xiahou Dun


At the start KSI was a very good clan with good players only however someone was given a promotion that was the wrong choice and the clan was quickly filled with noobs and cheaters. They could have booted all these members but the reputation of the clan had already been damaged beyond repair. So they decided to leave KSI and start a new clan. All legitimate members of KSI quit and left the clan to the noobs to do as they pleased.

If my memory serves me correctly then the clan they started was XGC. And with much stricter member screening processes there are not. (To my knowledge) any noobs and cheaters in XGC. And the XGC gamertag noobs you find are most probably in a copycat clan.



Stop believing what you hear. XGC does not have a screening process, it always has been, and still is simply based on anyone who wants to join. KOG is just XGC for kids 18 and under. XGC has tens of thousands of members, and they're all good? I have nothing against XGC, I wa sin it, and I met some cool people in it. I was a general. Pure fact, is nobody was really good at all. The people who founded XGC aren't very good at this game, nothing against their chracter in real life, but they just don't play this game to get good.

KSI was the same way. They are both, and always have been communities. Based on fun and finding people to play with, in a huge, thousand member community.

  • 05.29.2007 1:04 PM PDT
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He did not state ,however, that 90% of gamertags are copycats, he said that the majority of people with "KSI Gamertags" are not truly in the clan.
Im pretty sure thats right... c:


I can assure you its still not that high.

30-40% of them are probably tags made while they were in KSI, and quit.

90% would imply taht for every10 kids recruited into KSI, one stays.

Its not possible to get as many members as they ahve with that ratio.

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  • 05.29.2007 1:05 PM PDT

I'd Rather Be A Smartass Than A Dumbass

I was in XGC for quite some time too sir.

Not all the players are of a high level but they were all to my memory very capable .

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Posted by: Xiahou Dun
I was in XGC for quite some time too sir.

Not all the players are of a high level but they were all to my memory very capable .



Were you a high rank? Someone whos job it is to recruit?

There was and is no skill basis, at all.

There was skill basis to get into XGP, but XGP is no more.

  • 05.29.2007 1:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: SPAREnoEV1L
When people like me and my clan destroy way too many sponsered clans on a daily basis?!?!? I thought clans like KSI, XGC, KOG, and such are supposed to be the dominant clans? But yes they out number us, but they have needless to say only decent players?! Nobody that great that we have played worth being sponsered for!

HOW do you get sponsered? By Recruting Mass numbers of people who are not good? Or having one clan that is Skillfully unstoppable??? And they BLACK LIST people so you cant play with you friends from other clans? Are using this game Like -blam!- Germany? Seems like it! Yet they form the trash talking and countless insults thinking they are the best cause they are "Sponsered".

I am sure there alot of poeple out there that are either been apart of it or have seen this for your self. I am am sorry to say i have been in KSI one form of branch that me and my cousin formed under their permission. We had 76 deep and they BLACK LISTED us for beating them too often and accused us of some "Out Their" reason.

Anyone think this is right??!?!?



oh YOU MAD

and can't spell

  • 05.29.2007 8:43 PM PDT
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I find it extremely distasteful when someone talks bad about any clan. PLAY THE -blam!- ING GAME!!!

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i was in KSI as a pretty high rank when i left we had over 9000 members.

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I spent close to 10 months in Xiled Gaming. Long enough to be lied to about being sponsored (THEY AREN'T) and also tricked into recruiting people using those false pretenses. Also, 90% of the people from KSI and XGC ARE in fact a part of those communities. I still have a lot of friends in XG that keep me well informed on the goings on within. I still report violators of the Honor Code. I am perfectly willing to take a shot at their Council's leadership. I will not mention any specific names, but they pick and choose when they want to live by the Honor Code. There is only one XI that wasn't a pretentious @$$. They do think they are the BEST. Although; out of their 10,000 or so members, fewer than 10 have any real talent. This is coming from someone that improved VASTLY since I left. ANyway, back to the issue... Most are dicks, Most are NOT sponsored, Most lie and All think they are #1. FYI, there are as many REAL XG cheaters as there are KSI cheaters.

  • 05.29.2007 10:11 PM PDT

In the case of the KSI clan I havent met a half good player

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Aren't the smaller clans the better ones, because you figure that it is easier to train a smaller team of 5 or 6 than 30 or 40.

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MoB does not think highly of the current KSI...so if anything, don't take anything they say for sure.
Alot of people put tags on thier names and copycat just to have people really believe they are "pro". gives them a sense of power no?

I've played plenty of KSI...and all of them sucked. I don't think I've met any of the good ones yet no? I aint exactly a great player >>

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i know all of them are Garbage and i dont really know why they are sponsered?!??! does any one have a good explanation for that?!?
But also if you want to see a great clan it is mine FEAR FFA... we are just good all around players... anyways i just dont know how people get sponsered in general.... its a fluke to me even I or my cousin can become Pro its the just matter of being noticed at the right time... Its not bragging i am just saying its true fact.. But take KSI or any other major clans they have DEPTH and thats about it... but i really dont know the reason why and how they get sponsered
And sorry if i only post a couple of times i have practice for Football And a Volleyball Club team till 3 to 10 =D

  • 05.30.2007 7:39 AM PDT
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i used to be in KSI my self and i agree they were some of the most stuck-up players out there. sure they knew how to play but they thought they were all top players because they were in a "sponsered" clan. i was mad because when ever i got invited to custom's it would be pretty easy and medeocre. I give them props for having so many members but they'll send a clan invite to anyone.

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Posted by: SPAREnoEV1L
When people like me and my clan destroy way too many sponsered clans on a daily basis?!?!? I thought clans like KSI, XGC, KOG, and such are supposed to be the dominant clans? But yes they out number us, but they have needless to say only decent players?! Nobody that great that we have played worth being sponsered for!

HOW do you get sponsered? By Recruting Mass numbers of people who are not good? Or having one clan that is Skillfully unstoppable??? And they BLACK LIST people so you cant play with you friends from other clans? Are using this game Like -blam!- Germany? Seems like it! Yet they form the trash talking and countless insults thinking they are the best cause they are "Sponsered".

I am sure there alot of poeple out there that are either been apart of it or have seen this for your self. I am am sorry to say i have been in KSI one form of branch that me and my cousin formed under their permission. We had 76 deep and they BLACK LISTED us for beating them too often and accused us of some "Out Their" reason.

Anyone think this is right??!?!?


XG as a whole is not sponsored and anyone who said it was was lying or illinformed on the issue. The only sponsorship to date the one that helps pay for the website, which is just a google advertising bar and things alike. I still have yet to figure out where the notion of "omg, their an organization of gameres, they must be elitest" comes from, but it's completely wrong. XG is a gaming community based off of many many games, and not just Halo/2/3. It is very true that there are a varying degree of gamerskill in XG, but being in XG isn't about being great, the best, or top notch players, just people with good attitudes. As with any gaming community, there are bad eggs and people who enjoy spoiling it for everyone else. There are rules set that are intended to help create the best atmosphere in the community as possible and create a fun gaming experience. Not everyone accepts these rules and thinks it is fun to sully our name, community, and what we are here for.

It is also true that you will come across members with XGC, KOG, SYN in their gamertags, a simple check of their clan name can almost instantly let you know if they are truely in either of those communities. We are aware of the fake clans that form over time and we pass this information amongst each other in the community. The people that make these clans are either removed from the community, or already have been removed.

Posted below is a DIRECT copy of the Honor code from our website, which is public so this is not hidden information. Anyone who speaks otherwise is being ignorant. Whether or not anyone decides to read it or understand isn't up to me, but it makes for argument.

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XGC members will display a professional gaming demeanor at all times. Any match a XGC member participates in should observe the rules of Fair Play, Sportsmanship and Respect. As a XGC member, you not only represent yourself but XGC as a whole.


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All XGC members MUST be at least 18 years of age. XGC is a mature gaming community. If a gamer is under the age of 18, they will be recruited into KoG or SYN. XGC is an 18 and up community, NO EXCEPTIONS! Those “grandfathered” in will be allowed to remain. Any member who lies or any leader that allows this exception will be dealt with accordingly.


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All XGC members must register on the website within one week of their recruitment to remain in XGC. As a registered member, you will have access to the Forums and the Gaming Ladder (www.CLANCOMPETE.com) along with many other great sites. New members must read and accept the Honor Code and Rank Structure.


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All XGC members are encouraged to share any issues or ideas through the chain of command and with The Council of Leaders ANYTIME! The leaders of XILED GAMING believe in the open door policy and encourage members to use it.


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New members will not be allowed to change their gamer tag until reaching the rank of Sergeant and receiving approval from a Section Leader or higher.


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XGC members CANNOT be apart of any other gaming communities/clans! Any and all gamer tags must be either in XGC clans or in none at all. XGC does NOT have ANY alliances with other gaming communities/clans! XGC members will remain friendly and professional with ALL gaming communities at all times! ZERO TOLERANCE! If a XGC member leaves, they are NOT allowed back. In the event of a member wanting to come back, each situation will be looked at by the COUNCIL/Division Leaders on a case-by-case basis.


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Violation of the Honor Code will earn the Gamer a warning; two warnings and you will be banned from the community. Members caught t-bagging, purposely cheating and/or participating in manipulated online play will be immediately banned. No exceptions!


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Honor Code violations consist of trash talking, t-bagging, discrimination, racism, sexism, harassment, illegal drugs, cheating, poaching, squad deranking, or any other aggressive behavior toward fellow online gamers. Cheating is defined as any manipulation of online play; this includes, but is not limited to modding, bridging, stand-bying, forcing host, action replay, glitching / super jumping in match making / ranked games to gain an unfair advantage, playing online custom / ranked games with Modders, and circle boosting.


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BOTTOM LINE!!! Have fun, play games, and network with other gamers that share the same interest. At the end of the day, it is after all just a game!

  • 05.30.2007 8:55 AM PDT

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I was wondering how long it would take for one such as yourself to enter sir.

But I must say I find your code of conduct amusing.

Poaching and Illegal Drugs references in particular. XD

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I know some things can sound goofy, and thanks for not abusing the language filter like some around here seek pleasure in doing. The illegal drugs is mainly about posting it on our forums and talking about how to go about getting such things.

To some people it seems like a lot of things, but it's really not. I just wanted to clear some things up as I know it is impossible for someone to change ones mind once it is made up but handing out information keeps people from making ignorant decisions. Everyone is welcome to their opinion of us, just please make your opinions informed. Our information is out there and easy to find.

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  • 05.30.2007 9:31 AM PDT

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Of course rules like this always sound goofy.

Things like

"We treat our enemies with respect and honour"

Sounds a little stupid and basically means

"It is important to be nice to people"

Which also sounds stupid and like something your mother might tell you.

I have respect for XGC and other clans and was pointing out that the majority of these "XGC noobs" are probably not XGC'ers at least you have proved your clans maturity by not flying off the wall about this.

Also Poaching seems the most random thing ever to put I can understand the Illegal Drugs part even if it seems a little irrelevant.

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