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Posted by: Achronos
I'm afraid you've been duped - the beta is actually a very sophisticated network datamining tool disguised as some aspects of what Halo 3 will be. Such datamining only works with an extremely large sample size.

So - the beta is missing not only maps, weapons, and vehicles, but loads of polishing, weapon balancing, graphic and sound work, lots of networking bugs/features, etc.

Anyway, assuming that you've seen even a quarter of the final game is... well... wrong. And just because the beta was widely distributed and marketed doesn't mean it wasn't just a big beta test - with lots of stuff still to come.

Posted by: viper1989
ZalVex that was one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. The beta will undoubtedly be VERY similar to the final game. Why in the world would MS put so much marketing into the beta if it isn't going to be representative of the final game? Heck, they even packaged it with crackdown to drive sales and increase hype. This thing has been publisized for ages now, and for good reason. If you read videogame publications or even just watch g4 tv, you'd probably realize that the press knows what they're talking about when they say this is the most complete beta ever.


I thought we were getting the final graphics passage until I read this post. Now I understand! We are part of a Bungie conspiracy to "trick" us into thinking H3 has mediocre graphics, while the game has kick ass graphics. Obviously we are doing this so we can help Bungie with something really boring: Networking. Our minds are being aimlessly forced to play this networking tool: And because it is in the seven step plan for world domination, there is nothing we can do.

Now I am not game development Savvy, so I incorrectly assumed Beta = Final. Sue Me. I didn't really understand, I thought the disclaimer was "boring legal stuff".

Please, post something like this so all of the graphics threads stop. Confused users like me can understand that the Beta graphics are 25% of the final graphics.

And thanks Achronos for clearing that up.

Hell, I was really worried. You may have seen me whining on graphics threads, because I was concerned the UT3, Assasisn creed appeared to have better graphics.

Some new screenies (of the graphical awesomeness) would be nice as well. But we can't everything. And that would ruin the surprise of the final game, playing with the same old graphics would be kind of lame.

Obviously it is my fault for not being tech savvy. However this is a "public" beta, so there are a lot of people who are inept at understandin what a beta really is .

So it would really help out if there was a nice big sticky explaining it to... the less informed of us.

[Edited on 05.30.2007 4:48 PM PDT]

  • 05.29.2007 6:54 PM PDT
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If people want to argue about the graphic quality on the beta, why would you stop them? I think it's a legitimate topic.

For what it's worth I could understand that the beta graphics wouldn't be the as the final product and I don't consider myself to be, "game development Savvy".

Also, I don't see where Achronos said that the graphic quality in Halo 3 beta is 25% of Halo 3 final.

  • 05.29.2007 8:01 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sketto
If people want to argue about the graphic quality on the beta, why would you stop them? I think it's a legitimate topic.


The problem is that everyone is on this bandwagon that Halo 3's graphics are gonna suck. I mean, a couple threads here and there complaining about it is one thing.......but looking at 5 threads a day (in either forum) about the graphics are just plain annoying.

And people still can't get it through their thick skulls: It's a BETA. And I for one like the way the graphics look now. If the graphics are going to increase tenfold upon September 25th's release, then more power to 'ya.

However, the graphic whining threads won't stop. It's just annoying to see people pretend to know what they're talking about. Especially the ones who are "programmers" and give me their "expertise" on how the graphics should look LOL

[Edited on 05.29.2007 9:52 PM PDT]

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lol @ conspiracy theories.

  • 05.30.2007 2:18 AM PDT

Strange evolution how people have come to believe
That we are it's greatest achievement
We're barely, we're just a collection of cells
Overrating themselves

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Posted by: Sketto
If people want to argue about the graphic quality on the beta, why would you stop them? I think it's a legitimate topic.


The problem is that everyone is on this bandwagon that Halo 3's graphics are gonna suck. I mean, a couple threads here and there complaining about it is one thing.......but looking at 5 threads a day (in either forum) about the graphics are just plain annoying.

And people still can't get it through their thick skulls: It's a BETA. And I for one like the way the graphics look now. If the graphics are going to increase tenfold upon September 25th's release, then more power to 'ya.

However, the graphic whining threads won't stop. It's just annoying to see people pretend to know what they're talking about. Especially the ones who are "programmers" and give me their "expertise" on how the graphics should look LOL

But stickying Achronos' post would be pointless as these experts would simply scroll past the stickies so they can provide us with more in-depth analysis.

Its nice to have stickies, but they don't do a single thing to stop the flood of idiot posts.

  • 05.30.2007 10:28 AM PDT

If you really sit to think about it the package can only be so big for a download. Do you think they would put the best and (size wise)biggest graphics in it... I don't think so.

Also I have a small issue with your comment about the networking stuff being boreing. If it wasn't for the very intricate networking process you wouldn't be playing this game online, would you. Also the more information they get about the network, the better they can create a less "laggy" game for you to play.

[Edited on 05.30.2007 10:51 AM PDT]

  • 05.30.2007 10:50 AM PDT
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Posted by: Fxt_Redwolf
If you really sit to think about it the package can only be so big for a download. Do you think they would put the best and (size wise)biggest graphics in it... I don't think so.

Also I have a small issue with your comment about the networking stuff being boreing. If it wasn't for the very intricate networking process you wouldn't be playing this game online, would you. Also the more information they get about the network, the better they can create a less "laggy" game for you to play.


ROFL. Nobody likes sitting at a table programming networking!! Thats not the fun stuff.

I am not game savvy in any shape, form, or fashion. I thought "beta" meant very close to the final.

  • 05.30.2007 4:47 PM PDT