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Subject: New Spartans
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Hey, zanzibar multiplayer is a babysitting level! that would still be fun.

  • 05.30.2004 4:17 PM PDT
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this is a large thread

  • 05.30.2004 4:18 PM PDT

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Will there be a new batch of Spartans in Halo 2? I'd bet on it.
Reasons why i'd bet on it:

1) CPO mendez leaves the spartan 2 project to specifically go train the new class of Spartans when the Chief and the gang graduate (at age 16 or something and he's like 40 by the time the events in Halo take place). This "new class" of Spartans is never mentioned although they would be of age for combat ops.by the time Halo happens.

2) Dr. Halsey snoops on Ackerson's files and finds a document CPOMZ S3 which is suspicious of reason #1 but she also finds a doc called King under the Mountain (this is all from memory so I might be a little off) which could be a possible plot twist that we haven't forseen and it's another possibilty for Dr.Halsey's disappearance with Kelly (it sounds like it might have been just about Reach cause the Holy Time/Gravity Crystal was under the complex facility on Reach.

3) Ackerson definitely has something going on and it's quite clear that the Spartans and Dr.Halsey were his direct competition within the Military Industrial Complex of the 26th century. In a scene in one of the books Ackerson displays some sort of leverage over a superior ranking officer (admiral Hood I think) that's so obvious that an ONI Lieutenant notices it. Chapter 11 in FS is practically all about this so i would assume that it's a major plot factor.

4) I think the emblems on the Mjolnir armor in Halo 2 might extend beyond Multi-player and they could be a mark of different Spartan 3 squads.... also FLASH cloning isn't successfull but i think clones can be made if done....uh....naturally. The general ignorant theory is that Ackerson cloned some of the Saprtan 2's maybe even the Chief.

5) Admitedly i have no idea how this relates to there being more spartans in Halo 2 but Chapter 30 from The Fall of Reach smells very fishy and so therefore, like Ackerson. It also takes place almost exactly a day before Reach is invaded. I know the Iroquios had a Covie tracking device on it and that's supposedly how Reach was found by the Covenant but Chapter 30, especially how it's placed within the last moments of Reach, is just too conspicuous.

6) If there aren't Spartan 3's then I hope that some of the old crew that survived Reach or at least Kelly will return. I think it would lend even more flavah to the story if when playing Co-op, you and your friend were actually two different Spartans and not just the Master Cheif doubled.


There, Ba-Blamo. I think we seriously need a thread on some history timelines for the Halo story or a site (I think Bungie has a history of the human race, but not a chronology of known events from the books). I think it would clear up a lot of questions, spur on others to think of more possible theories and most importantly cut down on stupid posts and stupid bickering.

[Edited on 5/31/2004 8:24:57 PM]

  • 05.30.2004 4:22 PM PDT
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there are at least 5 old spartans still alive

the next program was taking place someware on reach and most of reach was destroyed they either died or evacuated to Earth

They may have started the spartan 3 on earth but they will still be in training because it hasn't been long enough for the kids to get there suits ect..

  • 05.30.2004 4:45 PM PDT
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Posted by: Kasamee
there are at least 5 old spartans still alive

the next program was taking place someware on reach and most of reach was destroyed they either died or evacuated to Earth

They may have started the spartan 3 on earth but they will still be in training because it hasn't been long enough for the kids to get there suits ect..
30 Years isn't long enoguh?

  • 05.30.2004 4:47 PM PDT
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it hasn't been 30 years sence the Chief stop his training they have been in the war for 30 years chief is still only like 20 something in Halo
so they would still be kids

  • 05.30.2004 4:58 PM PDT

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OH YOU GONNA GET FLAMED!!!!!!!

"it hasn't been 30 years sence the Chief stop his training they have been in the war for 30 years chief is still only like 20 something in Halo
so they would still be kids" -Kasamee

Fool of a took, The Fall of Reach Chapter 2, date -August 17th, 2517, John or Master Cheif as you Kasamee will refer to him is 6, yes S-I-X years old. You do the math to find out when he was born.

Opening page, first sentece in the booklet that comes with the friggin' game, (more flamage), "The year is 2552."

Now please, if your a fan than do some research or refer from commenting.

[Edited on 5/30/2004 5:14:20 PM]

  • 05.30.2004 5:13 PM PDT
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damn your right
But if they did start a third program because the second were wiped out from reach or evacuated
The third spartans on earth would still be young

  • 05.30.2004 5:36 PM PDT
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This was such an enjoyment to read. I believe one person said "i am just trying to think realistically."

Like HALO is realistic, haha, anything can happen, its a video game.

Considering there are still 5 Spartans alive, i am almost certain there will be more than Master Chief involved in the story.

If this wasn't true, i doubt they would set up HALO 2 so much with the book only to say, oh yeah, the other spartans died.... again.

Its also very possible that the Doctor and Kelly are going to find the other Spartans. Another thing i don't see why they would set up and give hints about in the novels only to not throw them into the story. They may not actually fight, but i think they will be mentioned at some point throughout the story.

  • 05.30.2004 5:46 PM PDT
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Halsey wouldn't do that- she says that she regrets her actions. Her personal effort is directed towards saving every life that she can at that moment, not in the future. So she would not put a group of people through the same training that the originals had to face.

  • 05.30.2004 5:50 PM PDT
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The new ones would have finished thier training.

  • 05.30.2004 5:56 PM PDT
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maybe they will be back, but who knows?

  • 05.30.2004 6:44 PM PDT
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They train the spartans on reach and reach is gone.

  • 05.30.2004 6:59 PM PDT
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I don't think she'd be getting Mark V. Bungie said that in Halo 2 MC gets Mark VI. What happened to Mark V, we can only guess at.
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Exactly, she could be getting the Mark V armor for the MC. (Maybe she maks an appearence in the begining of Halo 2?)

  • 05.30.2004 7:13 PM PDT
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well the first suit was a level 2 the monitor says so and tells chief he should upgrade to level 12
He upgraded on reach when he rescued Dr. Hasley so he really doesn't get a new suit he just upgrades the old one.

  • 05.30.2004 7:29 PM PDT
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Posted by: Kasamee
there are at least 5 old spartans still alive

the next program was taking place someware on reach and most of reach was destroyed they either died or evacuated to Earth

They may have started the spartan 3 on earth but they will still be in training because it hasn't been long enough for the kids to get there suits ect..


and a couple left out far away in space...i recall a line in tfor when they recalled all the spartans to try and defend reach...but a few were on missions too far away to recall...i personally hope there are only two out there...because that would make the grand total of living spartans...7...

  • 05.30.2004 7:30 PM PDT
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w0RD!!!!!!!@#!@!#!@@:') mebe your right that would be koo tho if they were in halo 2 :'''''D!!

  • 05.30.2004 8:21 PM PDT
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Posted by: fencr505
They train the spartans on reach and reach is gone.

that has nothing to do with it
ya never know they could already be on earth
or trained on a different planet besides reach

  • 05.30.2004 8:33 PM PDT
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everyone should keep posting in this thread
so it gets onto home page as thread of interest

  • 05.30.2004 8:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: TheSpartan no117
Posted by: fencr505
They train the spartans on reach and reach is gone.

that has nothing to do with it
ya never know they could already be on earth
or trained on a different planet besides reach


theres no reason they wouldn't train on reach because all the training faciliies r on reach and thats where they trained the Spartan2s

  • 05.30.2004 8:49 PM PDT
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who here thinks im good at halo???

  • 05.30.2004 9:05 PM PDT
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i just got done reading the books....and yes to confirm...there are still 5 spartans left.....kelly and the dr. left on some secret agenda......and the possiblites are endless.....ppl in here are right...there is no proof that the spartans only trained on reach....so how do we know that the second group was even wiped out? and the other point about the other spartans being to far away.....so there could be like 12 spartans left....though they never went into detail about the ones to far away....i wonder what they are doing?

  • 05.30.2004 9:10 PM PDT
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I think she went to another "batch" and is showing them the horror of what she thinks she has done to the origional Spartans. She's going to "redeem herself", and raise these new one's in a new way that she feels will do something to fix what she thinks she did to the origionals.

If you can follow thwt I applaude you.

  • 05.30.2004 9:13 PM PDT
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Posted by: mithrandir1
who here thinks im good at halo???


Not me if have to brag.

  • 05.30.2004 9:15 PM PDT
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the new spartans are not definately on reach. but even on earth they would be pretty scarce. the new ones might really come in handey if they make an apperance in halo 2. I dont hope there are more than 13 alive though, that would be a little easy. but yeah, the possibilities are endless.

  • 05.31.2004 7:38 AM PDT