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ok

  • 05.31.2004 7:22 PM PDT
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It seems like a waste to add the side-story about Mendez and his Spartan III's and then not involve them in some way, shape, or form in the game.

  • 05.31.2004 7:25 PM PDT
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OK. What everyone here says is interesting and plausible. Personally, I favor the idea that there is a new batch of Spartan 3s in (dare I say it?) Halo 2. However, in Halo: First Strike, it says that Dr. Halsey takes Kelley with her. Kelley is too badly injured for bio-foam. What I assume is, is that Kelley becomes a Spartan 3.
Spartan 2's are just augmented spartans. MC was a spartan, then after the augmentation with the super bones and stuff, he became a Spartan 2. Kelley is now a badly injured Spartan 2, could she become even more augmented from lessons from the first transition and become the 3rd series Spartan?

Just my 2 cents.

PS. Bungie, if I perchance hit the nail on the head, you can keep me silent by sending me the advance release for Halo 2. You know, just sayin'.

  • 05.31.2004 7:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: Killgore
Perhaps its already been touched on, but in Halo 2, MC has Mark IV armor, and I believe that he had only Mark II armor in the original, doesn't that lead one to believer that there have been versions between that? Sooo... if MC has been on Halo the whole time they must have had another Spartan to test those versions on. I haven't read the Flood or First Strike yet, so I might just be talking out of my a$$, that's just my take in the matter...


In Halo Master Chief had Mark V armor (I think). In Halo 2 he will have Mark VI. Guilty Spark referred to the Chief's Mark V armor as "Class II" for whatever reason. That's probably where you got the Mark II thing from.

  • 05.31.2004 7:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: Terradyne
OK. What everyone here says is interesting and plausible. Personally, I favor the idea that there is a new batch of Spartan 3s in (dare I say it?) Halo 2. However, in Halo: First Strike, it says that Dr. Halsey takes Kelley with her. Kelley is too badly injured for bio-foam. What I assume is, is that Kelley becomes a Spartan 3.
Spartan 2's are just augmented spartans. MC was a spartan, then after the augmentation with the super bones and stuff, he became a Spartan 2. Kelley is now a badly injured Spartan 2, could she become even more augmented from lessons from the first transition and become the 3rd series Spartan?

Just my 2 cents.

PS. Bungie, if I perchance hit the nail on the head, you can keep me silent by sending me the advance release for Halo 2. You know, just sayin'.


I'm not too sure if Spartan-3s are augmented Spartan-2s, in fact I highly doubt it myself, but who knows. You could be right. Though it seems unlikely; especially with the talk that CPO Mendez went off when the Spartan-2s were 14 to go train a new batch of Spartans, in my opinion it seems more likely that Spartan-3s are the same as Spartan-2s, just a new batch. Actually though who knows, you could be correct, a new project might mean a whole new interface. Anyway, also additionally, Kelly wasn't suffering greatly. She was knocked out by Dr. Halsey who tricked her by injecting her with a sedative instead of a certain chemical. In fact Kelly was pretty much fine at that point.

  • 05.31.2004 7:33 PM PDT
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Posted by: Terradyne
OK. What everyone here says is interesting and plausible. Personally, I favor the idea that there is a new batch of Spartan 3s in (dare I say it?) Halo 2. However, in Halo: First Strike, it says that Dr. Halsey takes Kelley with her. Kelley is too badly injured for bio-foam. What I assume is, is that Kelley becomes a Spartan 3.
Spartan 2's are just augmented spartans. MC was a spartan, then after the augmentation with the super bones and stuff, he became a Spartan 2. Kelley is now a badly injured Spartan 2, could she become even more augmented from lessons from the first transition and become the 3rd series Spartan?

Just my 2 cents.

PS. Bungie, if I perchance hit the nail on the head, you can keep me silent by sending me the advance release for Halo 2. You know, just sayin'.


y would kelly become a spartan 3 if she was already a spartan 2? who cares if shes injured they all injured. the original spartans were sometime back in ancient greece and the only thing halsey named em S2's was becomes the first spartans were teh best soldiers that ever lived.

they started out in the spartan 2 project just because there bones were augmented dones't mean they become spartans 2s its just another procedure in their training.

  • 05.31.2004 7:33 PM PDT
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OMFG i want to like KILL HALF THE PEOPLE IN THE FORUM TOPIC! no joke guys...get with the program...some of the people kno wht they are talkin about but others like mithrander1 are stupid as hell...i looked at one of his posts on the first page and he said "HOW IS DR HASLY GETTIN TO THE SPARTANS!" i was like omfg...u should die....i wish i could take his talkin privliges away! gezze! first off she went in a stealth ship (the one that she and her suppiorios found in the meter where the bandits were....she gave kelly the sedative and took her with her. then she said she was goin to try and redeem her self....and everything like that...ok hmmm another thing on the first page some idiot said that she took 4 smgs and 16 clips of ammo to train them!!!! COME ON! dude the smgs are for kelly and her! gezze guys...and btw she is goin to the S3's and if ne one in here doesnt kno wht S3s are then just quite halo forever. and yes there will be other spartans in halo2...dont believe me? well if u really wanna kno about this than u can aim me at CoCDoC2 or msn msg me at ThEDoC323@hotmail.com CPO mendez is not dead so u can all shut up about that one....well actually he is prolly dead now but he wasnt dead when he started traingin the new spartans....! get with the program guys. the S3s and alive and well and ready to kick some serious covey a$$! and ill be ready to do the same when i get halo2! hell yAH!

  • 05.31.2004 7:51 PM PDT
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Posted by: ThE DoC
OMFG i want to like KILL HALF THE PEOPLE IN THE FORUM TOPIC! no joke guys...get with the program...some of the people kno wht they are talkin about but others like mithrander1 are stupid as hell...i looked at one of his posts on the first page and he said "HOW IS DR HASLY GETTIN TO THE SPARTANS!" i was like omfg...u should die....i wish i could take his talkin privliges away! gezze! first off she went in a stealth ship (the one that she and her suppiorios found in the meter where the bandits were....she gave kelly the sedative and took her with her. then she said she was goin to try and redeem her self....and everything like that...ok hmmm another thing on the first page some idiot said that she took 4 smgs and 16 clips of ammo to train them!!!! COME ON! dude the smgs are for kelly and her! gezze guys...and btw she is goin to the S3's and if ne one in here doesnt kno wht S3s are then just quite halo forever. and yes there will be other spartans in halo2...dont believe me? well if u really wanna kno about this than u can aim me at CoCDoC2 or msn msg me at ThEDoC323@hotmail.com CPO mendez is not dead so u can all shut up about that one....well actually he is prolly dead now but he wasnt dead when he started traingin the new spartans....! get with the program guys. the S3s and alive and well and ready to kick some serious covey a$$! and ill be ready to do the same when i get halo2! hell yAH!


Woah buddy. I agree with all your info on the books, though 2 things; A) Calm down, let's not get overly rude ourselves. Everyone's entitled to their curiosities, and people are allowed to be wrong. It's not like this is a matter of life and death, it's just a forum that entertains peoples curiosities and debates about Halo 2. B) It's NOT definitive that Dr. Halsey is going to the Spartan 3's. I agree it's EXTREMELY likely, and seems like that would be the exact thing, but Bungie and the authors (Eric Nyuland, and William Dietz) have a habit of surprising you.

  • 05.31.2004 7:55 PM PDT
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i never said that what r u talking about, i was talking about how dr.halsey didn't know about the s3's in the first place since it was her program.

  • 05.31.2004 8:03 PM PDT
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maybe she was summoned by the forerunners? or maybe shes going to go get that class 12 armor as described in Halo: The Flood

  • 05.31.2004 8:24 PM PDT
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We will all have to wait till Halo 2 now won't we.

  • 05.31.2004 8:30 PM PDT

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Yeah what's up Doc? Chill.

I'd like to encourage everyone to refer to my posts on pages 8 and 9 of this thread (i've edited a little) and debate any of my assumptions and find any holes in the facts presented. It's all pretty much relevant to Spartan 3's and the question of new spartans. BUt yes doc i do feel with your frustration. If people haven't a firm grip on the details of this intricate story then at least read some of the posts (p.8 and 9!) before posting nonsensical pooh.

  • 05.31.2004 8:35 PM PDT
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let me staight something out. no such things as spartan 3s. and MC was never a spartan. he was always a spartan 2. spartans are soldiers of sparta, an ancient greek place. they call them spartan 2s, because they are tough just like the origional spartans. so the new spartans are not 3s, they are just new 2s.

  • 05.31.2004 8:41 PM PDT
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this thread is so riddled with flames and insults because of..................ME, YEAH

  • 05.31.2004 9:05 PM PDT

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Uhh mega marine there's no reason why a new class of Sparta wouldn't be classified as Spartan 3's. Granted the book never mentions Spartan 3's (again please refer to prev.posts) but the question of new Spartans implies Spartan 3's. Now if the Chief's team are the Spartan 2's (he has a roster of his team at the end of FS) then wouldn't the next batch of super human soldiers be named Spartan 3's. Then, hey, the next calss after that could be named Spartan 4's. I wouldn't be worried about them being more advanced (unless Ackerson's been meddlin with them.... ahem, prev.posts) or more augmented than the Chief just be interested in what level of Mjolnir they have. Just because it's not spelled out in the book doesn't mean people can't speculate on the S3's, besides the folder S-III and the file within it CPOMZ which is in the book is enough to theorize with.

  • 05.31.2004 9:06 PM PDT
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their right new parts and new amour for new spartans
makes since

  • 05.31.2004 9:12 PM PDT
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I just think it's hilarious that people can so mad about crap that doesn't matter.

  • 05.31.2004 9:19 PM PDT
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yeah. this might get locked

  • 05.31.2004 9:27 PM PDT
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what about my theorie of another groep that is on a more important mission and that the spartans where jus a diversion.

  • 06.01.2004 3:43 AM PDT
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That is indeed a good theory. Who knows?

  • 06.01.2004 9:16 AM PDT
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xcablibro thats really not a good theory at all, y would they need them on another mission when earth is getting blown up.

  • 06.01.2004 9:21 AM PDT
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to attack the covis when they dont expect it.

  • 06.01.2004 9:23 AM PDT
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  • 06.01.2004 11:55 AM PDT
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Posted by: MegaMarine
to attack the covis when they dont expect it.


taht is what i mean. but they did not expect the convis to discover earth so fast.

  • 06.01.2004 2:34 PM PDT
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man, your avatar really goes with what you just said, I dont know why.

  • 06.01.2004 3:26 PM PDT