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define infinite bliss... not even a god could define infinite bliss for someone... thats why we have free will supposedly

  • 05.29.2004 7:34 PM PDT
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Alright, does anyone actually think someone is going to change their mind here? This conflict has been going on for ages... what makes you think it will be resolved on a Bungie message board?

  • 05.29.2004 7:35 PM PDT
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Posted by: Majelvey
id liek to hear your arguement... im not stubborn... its just that there is no proof of a god let alone proof of anything...


There's metaphysical proof and mathematical proof.

Metaphysical proof - Any statement is true in which its opposite is not true.

Example: True knowledge about the universe is obtainable.

That is a true statement because "true knowledge about the universe is not possible" is a self-contradiction. You cannot know that true knowledge about the universe is not knowable unless true knowledge IS knowable.

  • 05.29.2004 7:35 PM PDT
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It will never be resolved in a chat room, but it will be resolved.

  • 05.29.2004 7:36 PM PDT

I hate everything, but it's not my fault.

Posted by: Surge
Alright, does anyone actually think someone is going to change their mind here? This conflict has been going on for ages... what makes you think it will be resolved on a Bungie message board?

True Surge, I'm not even sure why I'm bothering to get involved.

  • 05.29.2004 7:37 PM PDT
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well if we go back to the arguement that could be a god and their might not be a god than why choose a god?

  • 05.29.2004 7:38 PM PDT
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Remember, only through Bungie does one learn the tru7h.

Power of Seven!

  • 05.29.2004 7:39 PM PDT
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Posted by: Majelvey
well if we go back to the arguement that could be a god and their might not be a god than why choose a god?


For reassurance, and to have someone to tell all your problems to, and someone who can actually do something about it

  • 05.29.2004 7:39 PM PDT
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i dont want to push being atheist on anyone thats not what im trying to do... i just like discussing religion because i only hear one side of the story and i want to know how people can believe in something that there is no proof of... i wouldnt believe my arm was chopped off until i looked over at it and saw it laying next to me in a pool of blood...

  • 05.29.2004 7:41 PM PDT
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[quote]Posted by: Majelvey
i just want to say that anyone who believes in a god is weak... im posting this because

Are you not weak, you deny any force higher then yourself, you deny the fact that there just might be a higher truth then what can be seen with your two eyes. I say you are weak because you fear accountability. Accountability to a Higher being who knows everything you have ever done wrong, yet still offers a way for you to avoid the punishment.

I pose a simple question to you, what if you are wrong about this whole God thing. Do you really feel like risking your soul because you need more evidence. I thought it was innocent until proven guilty, yet you reject God without evidence against him.

Well it's up to you whether you believe in God, but your belief or disbelief does not change the Truth.

  • 05.29.2004 7:50 PM PDT

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