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Subject: Design an Emblem Contest Winner Revealed

Posted by: Naralos Udal
I'm not here to flame or to be stupid. I entered the contest, and I admit I lost for probobly good reasons. I put creativity into mine, but the graphics probobly didn't get up to par or it just didn't feel Halo-esque, that's perfectly fine.

Pirate symbol? To combat the Ninja symbol? My friend, you didn't miss the opposite twin of the ninja symbol... You've had it there. Jolly Roger, anyone? The official pirate symbol?

Also... I must say that that's as smooth as Bungie's own artists could possibly get, and admittedly that does make it look quite nice. But it does bear alot of similarity in design to the flaming ninja (Bungie acknowledgement here), jolly roger, and especially the Oakland Raider's symbol. Also.. the long war between ninjas and pirates? That's not original in the least. That war has been going on probobly since I was born.

I agree with a previous poster.. Let us see the runner ups and have a community vote on that... Or at least pick the next best.

Seriously, Bungie already has a pirate symbol. With this addition, it'll be one ninja symbol and TWO pirate symbols, and Bungie, I don't know if you wanna get in a war with all the ninja fans out there (OR the pirate fans, for that matter), so, if -I- were in that position (But hey, this is me, not the long time game company), I would either add in another ninja symbol or take out this pirate symbol and replace it with something neutral.

Oh, and because as fair and neutral as I've tried to be in this, I really can't help but want to display my icon like so many else have... Peer pressure? Too much self respect? Maybe.

http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i738112_NitraktheJester.b mp.jpg



More Valid and Well thought points there.
And I have to admit it. Even I like Naralos Udal's deesign more then my own.
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  • 06.05.2007 6:08 PM PDT
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i like pirates as much as the next guy from the carribean... but that just does not flow with the halo...its just .....sad

  • 06.05.2007 6:13 PM PDT

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Yea, yea, that does kick my ideas ass, though.

  • 06.05.2007 6:18 PM PDT

I'm very sorry, Noah, but as a Hard working artist, I feel cheated, I can't just sit by on this.
To Bungie, Here's PROOF that he cheated. I used the image frrom the news article of Noah's design, Blew it up, and overlayed the Ninja over it. And this is the result.

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/750/proofofcheatingno2.jpg

Now I KNOW that Bungie re-drew it for the game. And it's possible that they reused the Ninja themselves. But Noah himself (page one of this thread) says himself that it's an exact match. And once again, please notice the use of Weapons in the design, and the fact that we already have a pirate emblem..

Case Closed...I hope.

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Entry too late..

  • 06.05.2007 6:34 PM PDT

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its a nice emblem, but it is very similar to the spartan with he two swords.

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umm nice pirate but i dont really like them i geuss this guy came out with this icon b.c "pirate of the caribbean" but w.e i was going to come up with a "dice(you know like a six dice thing that you role) icon" but then i was thinking it wouldnt be orginal so i was like sigh nvm oh btw this pirate icon kind of reminds me the icon on halo 2 the ummmmm spartan symbol -_____________- w.e

  • 06.05.2007 6:53 PM PDT

If you are reading this i am already dead. Nah! I'm just screwin wit you. (^_^)

I thought they said if it looked like anything else it wouldnt get picked or whatever. But that looks kinda like the spartan with the 2 swords as stated above. But i clicked on one of the links that other people made....the dice with the spade behind it kicked ass! and it looks good and everything....but i dont really see the pirate being used.....with the ninja already being an option :)

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  • 06.05.2007 6:54 PM PDT

Posted by: SEspider
I'm very sorry, Noah, but as a Hard working artist, I feel cheated...


Work smart, not hard. I do believe these were judged by their idea, not by how many hours it took to create them. And the idea of this one was to create the perfect foil for the ninja, which is obviously a pirate.

Isn't it reasonable that an emblem would be picked that matches the style of the previous ones? Why would we have one emblem stick out like a sore thumb?

Now I KNOW that Bungie re-drew it for the game. And it's possible that they reused the Ninja themselves. But Noah himself (page one of this thread) says himself that it's an exact match. . . .

Case Closed...I hope.


I'm not Noah. I'm agdTinMan, the guy who cleaned up the design at Bungie. And yeah, I'm pretty sure the case is closed.

  • 06.05.2007 7:07 PM PDT

Yes, that Spade with the Dicec does look cool. But keep in mind that Halo already has a Spade in the Emblem section.
Shoot. ric3sniff3r is using the dang thing. lol I would possibly repace your Spade with that of a Flash/Spark/Hit effect. It'll fit the image and still look cool as well. Well done though.

And just for the heck of it, here's the Winning entry with both the Ninja and Spartan emblems overlaying them for comparison.

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/2000/proofofcheating2hb4.j pg

But I still say the Ninja resembles it FAR too closely.

  • 06.05.2007 7:20 PM PDT
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That emblem kinda sucks a bit. It looks too much like the spartan emblem. I was kinda hoping for something maybe a wee bit more, i dunno, interesting? Just my opinion...

  • 06.05.2007 7:21 PM PDT

Oops. My bad, AGDTinMan. I appologize to ya on that part. ;)

As for the:
"Work smart, not hard. I do believe these were judged by their idea, not by how many hours it took to create them. And the idea of this one was to create the perfect foil for the ninja, which is obviously a pirate.

Isn't it reasonable that an emblem would be picked that matches the style of the previous ones? Why would we have one emblem stick out like a sore thumb?"

That was kindda the point of the contest. To allow the COMMUNITY to design a ORIGINAL emblem. Not a REMAKE of a current one. Should it "stick out like a sore thumb?" Yes. The last think a artist (any self respecting artist) wants is their design to MERGE into that of someone else's work and thus forgotten.

Sometimes working Hard AND Smart pays off. And in the case of this case, it clearly didn't. It's clear to me that for anyone to even think of entering one of Bungie's contests, it has to be pretty much a rip off of their work. The entry did NOT follow the rules fully and you've gotta admit it WAY to close to the Ninja and Spartan to be concidered "Original." I'm getting more and more deepressed with each post so I'll end here for a while. I've got too much ORIGINALart to work on before before Wednesday morning (for work). Talk amungst yourselves.

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  • 06.05.2007 7:22 PM PDT
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Posted by: Halokhan2
Entry too late..


kickass.

I won't be happy till i see a properly formatted fully typed letter from someone in bungie explaining this.
They broke their own rules for the contest
Cheated numerous fans who actually Made their own entry instead of stealing one.
This is an act of shananigans at its finest.

What I really want to know is how they would let someone use copyrighted materials for their own gain...

  • 06.05.2007 7:25 PM PDT

Here's mine:

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i didnt enter, but maybe i should have the one my friend and i did was a biohazard symbol

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  • 06.05.2007 7:44 PM PDT

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not to dis the dude that won but i wish i enterered so i could make something better than a freakin pirate

  • 06.05.2007 8:22 PM PDT

Holy crap! I won???

Thanks for all the positive responses guys.

  • 06.05.2007 8:29 PM PDT

For those of you who were saying it looked like the Ninja symbol, that was sorta the point of my design. It just made sense if I was making the nemesis of the Ninja.

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Posted by: Dynamite
Holy crap! I won???

Thanks for all the positive responses guys.


People would have been disappointed with any symbol that won that wasn't theirs. However, Seeing the amount of plagiarism involved, and the dismissal of the rules is like pouring salt and vinegar on the open wound.

[Edited on 06.05.2007 9:08 PM PDT]

  • 06.05.2007 8:54 PM PDT
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I'm sorry to see another lame "whats hot now" add-on. A certain movie is out so lets have an icon about it. It will get old real quick. Can anyone say Toronto Raptors!! come on a movie comes out and we have to mimic it? I give the guy props for putting in what was judged a winner but i'm sure there had to be something with longer lasting appeal.

  • 06.05.2007 9:24 PM PDT
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I hope a lot of the other entries are included in the Legendary game pack.

  • 06.05.2007 9:28 PM PDT

I think the pirate emblem looks badass! Although, I didn't realize all the similarities such as the Oakland Raiders symbol and the current Halo 2 Ninja symbol. The winning emblem is great but I don't see how it qualified with all these similarities other gamers are pointing out...? I mean, the same exact head from the Ninja was used..

  • 06.05.2007 9:40 PM PDT

Posted by: combat monkey
I'm sorry to see another lame "whats hot now" add-on. A certain movie is out so lets have an icon about it. It will get old real quick. Can anyone say Toronto Raptors!! come on a movie comes out and we have to mimic it? I give the guy props for putting in what was judged a winner but i'm sure there had to be something with longer lasting appeal.


I disliked Pirates 2 and didn't even see Pirates 3. I was just making the counterpart to the Ninja. Everything has an opposite...which is why I felt Halo 3 needed a counterpart to the flaming Ninja. I wanted to put a couple cutlasses in it because if I was going to TRULY make the doppleganger I would have put ice around his head, but if I did it wrong I doubt it would have looked as clean or as simple.

And after reading the numerous negative responses I have to say I did NOT even think about the Raiders logo. I was trying to remain consistent with Bungie's other designs that they like to use. There are no cutlasses, and I felt like the Jolly Roger didn't really represent Pirates very clearly.

Posted by: Captain Nimda
I think the pirate emblem looks badass! Although, I didn't realize all the similarities such as the Oakland Raiders symbol and the current Halo 2 Ninja symbol. The winning emblem is great but I don't see how it qualified with all these similarities other gamers are pointing out...? I mean, the same exact head from the Ninja was used..


Thanks for the compliment. Again, I never, not once, looked at the Raiders logo or even thought about it the entire time I was designing it. I don't even like football. To be honest I was at one time going to put a pirate hat on him or have a beard that you could toggle but it just didn't fit or look as simple as the bandana which I felt was much more effective.

Thanks to all those who liked it, and for those of you that hate it then you are fully entitled to your Ninja-loving opinion.

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  • 06.05.2007 9:52 PM PDT
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Was the Raiders similarity just a coincidence? I could see that happening by accident, but it is strikingly similar...

EDIT: Answered.

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  • 06.05.2007 9:56 PM PDT

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  • 06.05.2007 10:34 PM PDT