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Subject: A mac?
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I am going to buy one of the new macbook pros and would like to know if I would be able to install halo 2 on it if I had installed windows vista as a dual boot option?

  • 06.05.2007 6:16 PM PDT

You should. But Vista might freak out on a macbook.

  • 06.05.2007 6:21 PM PDT

Keeep Out of reach of children!!!

proly not. macs generally have underpowered hardware. like a 1 ghz processer...

  • 06.05.2007 6:22 PM PDT

I belive the macbook pro beats the pants off of lots of desktops. I may be wrong but I think I'm right.

  • 06.05.2007 6:24 PM PDT
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Posted by: Keeep Out
proly not. macs generally have underpowered hardware. like a 1 ghz processer...


Actually, the new Macbook Pros have pretty beefy specs for a laptop.

The real problem I see is that Boot Camp (or whatever that other Mac to Windows software is) really is just a glorified emulator that runs Windows on similar hardware. I'm not sure how well it would run graphically intense games through the emulation process - I'd be inclined to believe it would run very poorly, if at all.

This is all speculation on my part - so far I've only used Boot Camp to run very basic Windows applications on a Mac. I've never really tried gaming through it.

  • 06.05.2007 6:27 PM PDT

Let there be CHAOS!

Most Mac haters don't even know why they hate Mac lmao.

  • 06.05.2007 6:29 PM PDT
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The new macbook pros can have up to 2.4 ghz processors and thats the one that I am going to get, so I hope it will be able to play halo 2

  • 06.05.2007 6:54 PM PDT
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And most Mac lover's don't really know thier Mac's aren't better than PC's.

  • 06.05.2007 6:55 PM PDT

Slaying noobs since 2007.

I'm no mac lover, but I'm no mac hater, only when it comes for support and OS choice. Or the amount of apps supported.

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I am not a hater of any OS or machine, even linux isn't terrible in my eyes, I just want a mac because macs are good machines and I would like to use both windows Vista and Mac OSX (Leopard) and the new macbook pros are very nice, they have 2.4ghz processors and 1920x1200 screen resolution and that is easily much better than most laptops out there, I just want to be able to play the new vista games on it, my current machine is probably going to have a lot of problems with halo 2 vista.

  • 06.05.2007 9:16 PM PDT
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Yes, actually, it would. I did that. Vista is a bit screwed which I'm getting fixed. But H2V runs laggless on my Mac w/ Mid Graphics. (Can't go any higher, GLITCH)

  • 06.06.2007 6:36 PM PDT

"Wise men speak because they have something to say, but fools because they have to say something" -Unknown

Posted by: Captiosus
Posted by: Keeep Out
proly not. macs generally have underpowered hardware. like a 1 ghz processer...


Actually, the new Macbook Pros have pretty beefy specs for a laptop.

The real problem I see is that Boot Camp (or whatever that other Mac to Windows software is) really is just a glorified emulator that runs Windows on similar hardware. I'm not sure how well it would run graphically intense games through the emulation process - I'd be inclined to believe it would run very poorly, if at all.

This is all speculation on my part - so far I've only used Boot Camp to run very basic Windows applications on a Mac. I've never really tried gaming through it.


I'm running Windows Vista on my 2.0GHz iMac with 2GBs of RAM, and it runs everything just fine. Halo 2 Vista runs fine as well. Keep Out, not sure when the last time you used a mac was because most new Macs have at the least a 2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo chip. Boot Camp isn't a "glorified emulator", the only thing Boot Camp does is partition the hard drive without having to erase the data on the hard drive. I know this, I have Windows Vista installed as my primary OS.. which gosh darn it wouldn't be possible if Boot Camp was emulating, because it would require OS X to emulate. Anyways, point is Vista and Halo 2 Vista runs fine on a Mac.. would rather have a 4.0GHz alienware or something.. but this works. lol

  • 06.06.2007 7:00 PM PDT
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It's funny how many of these ignorant MS drones don't know that Halo is a Mac game and little Billy with his billions of dollars got all excited when he saw it and bought out Bungie to save his failing x-box. He's not stupid, he copies or buys the best. Without Macs, MS would have no inspiration!

Anyway, I have an x-box with Halo 1 & 2, and many computers. Macs, and PCs. I have the Mac and Windows versions of Halo 1, and I can tell you, the Mac version is by far the best. It kills the x-box port and the PC port.

My Macbook has 3GB RAM, a Core2 2.0GHZ chip, and a 250GB Hard Drive. It would be hard to find any PC laptop that can match that!
The funny thing is, is that I have to run the PC version on the Macbook. The Mac version will only work on the PPC Macs. It looks and plays much better on my Mac Mini PPC than the PC version. The graphics are cleaner and the game is smoother. As with all Mac games.

These new users don't know anything about Macs. As you said, BootCamp is NOT an emulator or a virtual machine.

MS was smart to but Bungie. It not only saved their x-box, but it's the best game in history! Again, the Mac saves Microsoft's rear end.
At least they didn't pirate it this time like the OS. I'm just upset that Bungie sold out. They should have had some guaranteed Mac release clauses in the contract.
If you watch the development videos of Halo 2, they are using Macs!

But, yes, when Halo 3 comes out, I will pick up a 360.

Meanwhile, has anyone tried Halo2 on the MacBook (not pro)?
I will buy it if I know it works.

  • 06.12.2007 10:03 PM PDT
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There is some good things about macs the best one is it is not made my microsoft. Only reason i don't have a mac is you can't buy a mac in parts you have to buy whole computers.

  • 06.12.2007 10:09 PM PDT
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@Cpt Nichols - Like I said, it was only speculation on my part, I had never tried gaming thru Boot Camp. It's nice to hear that it works, however, because it reopens my desire to pick up a MacBook Pro. I've always liked the MacBooks. I'd always have a PC desktop but I would love a Mac notebook, especially with Boot Camp around.

That said, I hate to disagree with you. Boot Camp IS emulating an x86 environment because if it wasn't, you wouldn't need it. But you can't just boot into a Mac, format it and load Windows instead despite the hardware similarities. Why? Well I'll just let this copy/paste from The Mac Observer explain as I'm lazy at the moment:

Experts have felt that there are serious hurdles to overcome before Vista would install and run on an Intel-Based Mac because the Mac uses a special type of low-level hardware programming called EFI during startup. Windows relies on an older system called BIOS, and booting Windows on a Mac requires special software to emulate the BIOS code.

Boot Camp has to emulate a PC's BIOS.
Without Boot Camp emulating the X86 environment, you couldn't run Windows on a Mac.

[Edited on 06.12.2007 10:17 PM PDT]

  • 06.12.2007 10:14 PM PDT
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Ever since apple went to intel, there is this app called boot camp that lets you dual boot OS X and another OS

also the mac book pro has awesome specs. a 8600M GT, C2D 2.16 Ghz and 2 gb of ram. i plan on asking for one on x-mas

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  • 06.12.2007 10:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: Mac OS X 4ever
It's funny how many of these ignorant MS drones don't know that Halo is a Mac game and little Billy with his billions of dollars got all excited when he saw it and bought out Bungie to save his failing x-box. He's not stupid, he copies or buys the best. Without Macs, MS would have no inspiration!

Anyway, I have an x-box with Halo 1 & 2, and many computers. Macs, and PCs. I have the Mac and Windows versions of Halo 1, and I can tell you, the Mac version is by far the best. It kills the x-box port and the PC port.

My Macbook has 3GB RAM, a Core2 2.0GHZ chip, and a 250GB Hard Drive. It would be hard to find any PC laptop that can match that!
The funny thing is, is that I have to run the PC version on the Macbook. The Mac version will only work on the PPC Macs. It looks and plays much better on my Mac Mini PPC than the PC version. The graphics are cleaner and the game is smoother. As with all Mac games.

These new users don't know anything about Macs. As you said, BootCamp is NOT an emulator or a virtual machine.

MS was smart to but Bungie. It not only saved their x-box, but it's the best game in history! Again, the Mac saves Microsoft's rear end.
At least they didn't pirate it this time like the OS. I'm just upset that Bungie sold out. They should have had some guaranteed Mac release clauses in the contract.
If you watch the development videos of Halo 2, they are using Macs!

But, yes, when Halo 3 comes out, I will pick up a 360.

Meanwhile, has anyone tried Halo2 on the MacBook (not pro)?
I will buy it if I know it works.


Psh Mac lovers... Dont know why they hate Windows, but they do. People will believe anything they hear.

There are plenty of good laptops out there that murder your Macbook. As for one, mine has 4gb DDR2 @ 633mhz (32-bit Windows doesnt recognize 4gb so its 3gb), C2D 2.4ghz, 250gb HD. All cost around $1400.

Plus when the Xbox came out, it murdered the PS2 in sales.

Bungie ported Halo 1 so you can speak to them about that.

And ive tested some PC/Mac compatible games with my PC and his Mac, and we came to the conclusion, that my PC runs games smoother and somewhat cleaner.

Mac has never "saved" Microsoft's rear-end. You should actually be thanking Microsoft. MS literally helped Mac out on its most of its OS releases.

Vista is better than Mac OS X because you can rely on Server quality OS's. Ever think of that? Vista is built off the NT kernal. Unlike Mac's.

And why do PC's get more viruses than Mac's? Simple. If you were a hacker, would you rather hack millions of PC's? Or hundreds of Mac's? I would choose the latter.

  • 06.12.2007 11:00 PM PDT

Let there be CHAOS!

Posted by: Captiosus
@Cpt Nichols - Like I said, it was only speculation on my part, I had never tried gaming thru Boot Camp. It's nice to hear that it works, however, because it reopens my desire to pick up a MacBook Pro. I've always liked the MacBooks. I'd always have a PC desktop but I would love a Mac notebook, especially with Boot Camp around.

That said, I hate to disagree with you. Boot Camp IS emulating an x86 environment because if it wasn't, you wouldn't need it. But you can't just boot into a Mac, format it and load Windows instead despite the hardware similarities. Why? Well I'll just let this copy/paste from The Mac Observer explain as I'm lazy at the moment:

Experts have felt that there are serious hurdles to overcome before Vista would install and run on an Intel-Based Mac because the Mac uses a special type of low-level hardware programming called EFI during startup. Windows relies on an older system called BIOS, and booting Windows on a Mac requires special software to emulate the BIOS code.

Boot Camp has to emulate a PC's BIOS.
Without Boot Camp emulating the X86 environment, you couldn't run Windows on a Mac.


No... you can format your Mac OS hard drive and install Windows natively, it doesn't need Boot Camp.

  • 06.13.2007 5:27 AM PDT

"Wise men speak because they have something to say, but fools because they have to say something" -Unknown

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Posted by: Captiosus
@Cpt Nichols - Like I said, it was only speculation on my part, I had never tried gaming thru Boot Camp. It's nice to hear that it works, however, because it reopens my desire to pick up a MacBook Pro. I've always liked the MacBooks. I'd always have a PC desktop but I would love a Mac notebook, especially with Boot Camp around.

That said, I hate to disagree with you. Boot Camp IS emulating an x86 environment because if it wasn't, you wouldn't need it. But you can't just boot into a Mac, format it and load Windows instead despite the hardware similarities. Why? Well I'll just let this copy/paste from The Mac Observer explain as I'm lazy at the moment:

Experts have felt that there are serious hurdles to overcome before Vista would install and run on an Intel-Based Mac because the Mac uses a special type of low-level hardware programming called EFI during startup. Windows relies on an older system called BIOS, and booting Windows on a Mac requires special software to emulate the BIOS code.

Boot Camp has to emulate a PC's BIOS.
Without Boot Camp emulating the X86 environment, you couldn't run Windows on a Mac.


No... you can format your Mac OS hard drive and install Windows natively, it doesn't need Boot Camp.


Exactly, which I did that once. I installed Vista on my Mac.. completely wiping out OS X. The ONLY thing Boot Camp does, is partition the hard drive. That's it.

  • 06.13.2007 10:21 AM PDT
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Posted by: Mac OS X 4ever
Anyway, I have an x-box with Halo 1 and many computers. Macs, and PCs. [/b]I have the Mac and Windows versions of Halo 1[/b], and I can tell you, the Mac version is by far the best. [/b]It kills the x-box port[/b] and the PC port.
I was not aware that Halo 1 (Xbox) was ported from another platform. Thank you for enlightening this community.

On a more serious note:
*sigh* Another one? Someone please go deflate him.

  • 06.13.2007 10:57 AM PDT
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No problem...

Most people aren't aware. They all think it's a MS game. They know nothing of the history of Bungie.

Mac users were pretty upset when MS purchased Bungie because they held up the release of the Mac version for a long time.
They wanted to get the x-box version out first.

We are all just glad that they eventually did release it.

  • 06.14.2007 7:44 AM PDT
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Again, not an emulator.

BIOS is your hardware operating system.
On most PCs, it's loaded onto a chip.
Older PCs had EPROMs that stored the code.
Newer PCs have FLASH ROMs. These can be rewritten easily They are electronically erasable, where the old EPROMs had to be erased with UV light and placed into an EPROM programmer.
As some of you may know, you can download and upgrade your BIOS from your motherboards manufacture.
This is not emulating anything, it is loading the newer code onto chip on your motherboard.

So all BootCamp really does is load the BIOS.

Eventually, when they catch up, PCs will have EFI too.

Emulation is when you simulate another processor with programming code.
Every instruction is translated.

The new Macs use Intel chips (Core 2 Duo, Quad core Xeon, etc.), there is no emulation.

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Posted by: Mac OS X 4ever
No problem...

Most people aren't aware. They all think it's a MS game. They know nothing of the history of Bungie.
Yes, well, my statement was made in sarcasm; something that I've allowed myself to do more of lately. At any rate, I made that post in an attempt to explain that Halo 1 Xbox was not a port. It was an original game IP with original code that was written explicitly for the Xbox. What you said was erroneous. It is an MS game as MS owns much of the property for the Halo universe.

Yes, yes, we all know that Bungie was originally going to release Halo for Mac, but that doesn't matter. They didn't "port" the work they had done from Mac development to the Xbox platform. They kept the same ideas and re-used a lot of the abstract material they they had built up to that point, but I highly doubt that they took any concrete work (especially source code) and "ported" it to Xbox. That coding had to be done basically from the ground up.

Regarding your claim that they were using Macs in the ViDocs: I haven't checked the ViDocs for Macs, but I would assume that they use Macs for a lot of the visual design and art for the game. However, what you conveniently left out of your earlier post is that in the ViDocs, Bungie is clearly using PCs for debugging, triage, and development.

I'm not a Mac hater, I've just not had ample opportunity to use one as they're so scarce and I'm not going to go buy a brand new Mac just to 'try it out.' I would happily use a Mac if they were a little more commonplace. Sadly, they are not (at least, not in the workplace or at the university level).

I freely use Windows XP, Vista, and Linux at home and at work (all paid for and licensed) and would use a Mac too if one were given to me.

  • 06.14.2007 8:20 AM PDT

Yes using it on your mac should work very well.

Look at these specs. That's pretty damn good if you ask me.
http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/specs.html

Besides, when Leopard launched this fall, Boot Camp will be fully integrated.

OSX FTW!!!!!!!

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stop the mac vs pc war



think of the kittens!!!!

  • 06.14.2007 8:52 AM PDT

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