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May 16, 2007 Link to this post

Halo 2 - coming to XP
Wow, here's some interesting news... Falling Leaf Systems has announced that they will be providing compatibility software that will allow Halo 2, an exclusive Vista title, to run on Windows XP. If you order Halo 2 through their site, you'll get the compatibility libraries FREE when they're released (current estimate is July). Not sure how they plan to make any money... but this seems like a pretty cool thing for folks who'd love to play Halo 2, but can't justify the shift to Vista right now. (Louis Wu 14:25:33 UTC)


http://nikon.bungie.org/news.html?item=18626

http://www.fallingleafsystems.com/preorder/

Sorry if this is old news to you guys.

[Edited on 06.06.2007 7:20 AM PDT]

  • 06.06.2007 7:04 AM PDT
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spend $120 and buy vista

http://www.nextag.com/windows-vista/search-html

  • 06.06.2007 7:09 AM PDT

lol. This "falling leaf systems" is just screaming scam to me. I pity any fool who actually sends them money.

  • 06.06.2007 7:12 AM PDT
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It's not often I get to quote myself, but...

Posted by: Captiosus
That's a third party solution that will cost money, neither endorsed nor supported by Microsoft - it's not like "oh just download the patch".

The bigger question is: How long do you think it will exist before Microsoft and their massive legal team shuts it down for copyright infringement? I'm not a betting man but even I'd put money down that Microsoft will stop Falling Leaf Systems from releasing their compatibility software before it even becomes publicly available.


I mean.. Microsoft has been actively trying to shut down TransGaming's Cedega for a while. Unlike Cedega, this is actually someone "reverse engineering" (read: cracking), by their own admission, DX10 to make a compatible D3D Windows XP version. Not so sure how well that will fly.

And, they seem to have a lot of questions surrounding their validity. Take, for instance, this discussion from April from the WINE mailing list:
Am Montag 23 April 2007 17:32 schrieb H. Verbeet:
> On 23/04/07, Ian Macfarlane <ianmacfarlane at gmail.com> wrote:
> > The Inquirer has an interesting article about something called the Alky Project which claims to have initial support for DirectX 10 onWindows XP (and >> possibly other operating systems).
>
> My impression is that the Alky project severely underestimates the amount of work involved in making this work right.

Actually, they tend to announce something to generate some buzz, put themselves on slashdot and other pages to get a few people shell out the $50 for their "sapling" program, only to stop the whole thing with some excuse a few months later.

First, they started as an open source project to "convert" Win32 PE binaries to Linux ELF and MacOS binaries, and a set of libraries to give the code the APIs it needs. Some day the project just vanished.

A little bit later on it came back as a closed source project which promised to convert the prey demo, which uses OpenGL and doesn't need much fixup for the api.

Later on they announced that they'd work on new d3d apps like TES:Oblivion, etc. Eventually they ditched that for working on converting d3d10 apps.

Now they came around with their d3d10 lib for winxp. From a quick look at the strings in the lib, they use opengl, but import only very, very basic functions like glBegin, glVertex, glTexImage. No shader things, no multitexturing, no vertex / index buffer things. With their function they can only have a software renderer(which won't run any real game), or its just a hello world d3d10 implementation which doesn't do much more than return D3D_OK on CreateDeviceAndSwapchain (which would fit the few success/failure reports I saw).


I know that's a lot of technobabble, but, put simply, Falling Leaf Systems kept promising the world to Linux users for D3D9 (DX9 compliant) and never delivered. The Alky project still exists, but is pretty much dead, after months of work and promises. Now they're promising to come out with a DX10-compatable D3D10 library that will run on XP in only a few months?

  • 06.06.2007 7:17 AM PDT
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WIndows XP DOES NOT run Live, there's no way to play over intronet. Campaign maybe, Maybe. It doesen't seem like they could.

  • 06.06.2007 7:19 AM PDT

Slaying noobs since 2007.

I don't think it is possible for the whole game to be emulated on something worse then the current. I always thought people would want to emulate for systems that run better then last years. But take it with a grain of salt. Let one person buy it and see if it is true.

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Posted by: RAD_5
WIndows XP DOES NOT run Live, there's no way to play over intronet. Campaign maybe, Maybe. It doesen't seem like they could.
Thats not true. I installed Live on XP Heres a picture: http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n136/Legendarycat/LiveonXP .png

Although, I still have no clue if it will work because all live games are Vista only.

  • 06.06.2007 11:50 AM PDT

What if it lags and has like...10fps? COMPATIBILITY That JUST means it works, doesnt say well.

  • 06.06.2007 1:05 PM PDT
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Can't you ' Halo 2 to XP ' guys just stop ?

  • 06.06.2007 1:22 PM PDT

Halo FTW.

omg guys just stop ur hope of halo 2 pc ok its not going on xp just getn a vista new computer save up for a new 1 giv the 1 u have now a virus so u can get a new

  • 06.06.2007 1:56 PM PDT

Let there be CHAOS!

Posted by: Drzn3n3
omg guys just stop ur hope of halo 2 pc ok its not going on xp just getn a vista new computer save up for a new 1 giv the 1 u have now a virus so u can get a new


lol!

  • 06.06.2007 2:19 PM PDT

What it is.

Personally all of this is too much work for a game that won't be played much once halo 3 is out..I'll still play it, but Halo 3 will be on my priority list.

  • 06.06.2007 3:40 PM PDT

Oh, and your poet Eliot had it all wrong
THIS is the way the World ends.

Posted by: cmx
spend $120 and buy vista

Bad idea. Vista is buggy as hell and will continue to be until its first service pack. Then it will only be annoyingly buggy.

  • 06.07.2007 3:16 PM PDT

Oh, and your poet Eliot had it all wrong
THIS is the way the World ends.

Posted by: FireHentz
Can't you ' Halo 2 to XP ' guys just stop ?

Thank you.

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Posted by: Stick Me
Posted by: cmx
spend $120 and buy vista

Bad idea. Vista is buggy as hell and will continue to be until its first service pack. Then it will only be annoyingly buggy.


To play H2V, there is no other choice. Your argument is irrelevant.

Moreover... what's this talk about Vista being buggy? I experience no such thing.

  • 06.07.2007 3:28 PM PDT

Let there be CHAOS!

Posted by: Stick Me
Posted by: cmx
spend $120 and buy vista

Bad idea. Vista is buggy as hell and will continue to be until its first service pack. Then it will only be annoyingly buggy.


What's buggy about Vista?

  • 06.07.2007 3:52 PM PDT

Posted by: Stick Me
Bad idea. Vista is buggy as hell and will continue to be until its first service pack.


Wrong. I got Vista when it came out, and haven't gotten a bug yet. 99% of the people who make these claims of it being buggy are just seeing the effects of using it on an inferior computer.

  • 06.07.2007 8:20 PM PDT
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Frog Blast the Vent Core!

The only problems I've had with Vista have been caused by my fubar'd Halo disc. Otherwise, never been problem.

  • 06.07.2007 8:45 PM PDT
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Yes, I am a hypocrite, and I'm sorry. I really do mean well, but I'm not running on all cylinders.

Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

Posted by: Chaosenemy
What's buggy about Vista?

The main problem I had with Vista was sound card support. It didn't support my SB Live and only had audio out for the on-board VIA chip. I need audio in for my uh, consoles. :)

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im srry to say vista just down right sucks right now no offence to microsoft but its not stable at all it slows to a crowl in just a couple of days major compatability issues with programs simple as flash games on internet explorer, and right now its just down right buggy i am duel booting my comp xp and vista but i hardly ever go into vista anymore, btw its not cause my comp sucks vista itself rates my comp a 4.5 outa 5 i have 1 gig of ram 512ddr2-4 (dont remember wich)(2 GPU's) video card 320 gb of hardrive space with a 64 bit processor (AMD Athlon(tm) 64 processor 3700+) vista is to much looks and no functionality..

my friends have had the same problems and they baught there computer new with vista already installed.....

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Posted by: halo2vista
What if it lags and has like...10fps? COMPATIBILITY That JUST means it works, doesnt say well.


Depending on the code they use... XP will have BETTER performance. Lower RAM hogging and stuff.

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you need to download drivers for your hardware and get another gb of ram

http://search.microsoft.com/results.aspx?mkt=en-US&form=M SHOME&setlang=en-US&q=windows+update

  • 06.08.2007 7:46 AM PDT
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aka lino4

Most of the PC issues posted here are the result of PEBKAC.

Posted by: Dark Xarin
im srry to say vista just down right sucks right now no offence to microsoft but its not stable at all it slows to a crowl in just a couple of days major compatability issues with programs simple as flash games on internet explorer, and right now its just down right buggy i am duel booting my comp xp and vista but i hardly ever go into vista anymore, btw its not cause my comp sucks vista itself rates my comp a 4.5 outa 5 i have 1 gig of ram 512ddr2-4 (dont remember wich)(2 GPU's) video card 320 gb of hardrive space with a 64 bit processor (AMD Athlon(tm) 64 processor 3700+) vista is to much looks and no functionality..

my friends have had the same problems and they baught there computer new with vista already installed.....


How about you do the world a favor, sell that computer, and retake your english classes.

Vista runs fine for me and I got a 4.0. If it's sluggish, you might have spyware.

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Posted by: Chaosenemy
What's buggy about Vista?

The main problem I had with Vista was sound card support. It didn't support my SB Live and only had audio out for the on-board VIA chip. I need audio in for my uh, consoles. :)


QFT. I've had exactly one "bug" with Vista, and that's the known and documented bug of Windows Explorer getting out of whack and not allowing you to select multiple files. A Microsoft community MVP immediately made a temporary script registry fix for instances where the knowledge base fix wouldn't work.

Almost every case I hear of Vista being "buggy" has been from people who try to put Vista on aging machines or from people who buy the super-el cheapo computers from manufacturers like Dell, Gateway, HP/Compaq, et al. who put just enough system resources on the cheap model to support Vista.

Posted by: Ryanman7
Depending on the code they use... XP will have BETTER performance. Lower RAM hogging and stuff.

This is true, but...

They're having to write D3D10 code from the ground up. Even with "reverse engineering" DX10, they certainly can't use any of the DX10 code, so they have to do it all themselves. Look at how long it took MS to upgrade directX9 to directX10 - now imagine you have a company with a fraction of the resources and you're trying to write D3D10 from the ground up, not to mention having to incorporate .Net framework into it. Falling Leaf only started this project back in December of 2006 and they want us to believe a fully functional D3D10, capable of running Live! games, will be available in July? Color me skeptical.

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